Injecting Problems : Hard to push gear out syringe.

[moss84]

I don't wehat the deal is, but all of sudden it's to push the oil out when doing glute injections. I literally have to push as hard as I can.

Anybody know what causes this?
Thanks

 

[Outtlaw]

What size needle are you using, and what are you injecting?

 

[moss84]

What size needle are you using, and what are you injecting?

23g, 1.5"
Prop, NPP, Equ.

 

[bicepts101]

I don't wehat the deal is, but all of sudden it's to push the oil out when doing glute injections. I literally have to push as hard as I can.

Anybody know what causes this?
Thanks

scar tissue...move the syringe to a different spot spotinjections.com

 

[marshallmadman]

Scar tissue could be the answer. Try heating up your gear so that it's less viscous. This will help it get through the needle easier, plus you'll be less sore.

 

[hardrock]

Could be scar tissue like stated above. Try warming up the sryinge under hot water for a few minutes first. That and warming up the injection site before and after really help.

 

[mt]

I've been heating gear in the micro for years. Just unscrew the pin, stand it up in a coffe cup, blast for 30 secs, screw pin back on, mix a bit so it's evenly distributed, then shoot. Even if you don't have full blown scar tissue repeated injects does toughen up the muscle a bit. Besides, warm oil disappates better when you massage it in the muscle and it's less likely to cause pain and swelling with hot gear like prop.

 

[hardrock]

I've been heating gear in the micro for years. Just unscrew the pin, stand it up in a coffe cup, blast for 30 secs, screw pin back on, mix a bit so it's evenly distributed, then shoot. Even if you don't have full blown scar tissue repeated injects does toughen up the muscle a bit. Besides, warm oil disappates better when you massage it in the muscle and it's less likely to cause pain and swelling with hot gear like prop.

Sounds like a good idea, but my micro is so dirty I would'nt put anything I'm injecting into it. Hot water works good for me. try taking a hot shower first and massaging the injection site while you're in there, and then again after.

 

[moss84]

Could be scar tissue like stated above. Try warming up the sryinge under hot water for a few minutes first. That and warming up the injection site before and after really help.

That sounds easy enough to try. Do you unscrew the needle out before placing under the water? Also, do you place a syringe filled with gear under the hot water or an empty one?

 

[LVTitan]

start shooting somewhere else like the quads see what happens there....

 

[TheRide]

scar tissue...move the syringe to a different spot spotinjections.com

ditto

 

[hardrock]

That sounds easy enough to try. Do you unscrew the needle out before placing under the water? Also, do you place a syringe filled with gear under the hot water or an empty one?

Leave the needle and the cap on and dont let the water touch either end. And yes it's filled. 3 cc.

 

[Throw2Far]

Ya i'd go with quads, can't think of anything but scar tissue...

You should easily be able to get oil out of a 23" regardless of if you heated it up in the microwave or not...

 

[BigWHEEL]

is ur gear really hard to draw up??? do what the bros said

 

[Bruce]

half the time i would inject winstrol it wouldn not come out period. so i drink it now, i know how fucking annoying that is, when i would take the needle out there was tissue jamming it so it probably is scar tissue

 

[moss84]

I'm pretty sure it was scar tissue. I just injected 2 cc in my left glute--no problems at all. It's hard when your right handed, but I'll learn. My cycle demands ed--I think I need to learn more about spot injections.

I appreciate everyones input.

 

[hardrock]

half the time i would inject winstrol it wouldn not come out period. so i drink it now, i know how fucking annoying that is, when i would take the needle out there was tissue jamming it so it probably is scar tissue

Bro you can easily push Winny through a 25g. If you gonna mix the shot with anything oil based, use a 23 gauge.

Top of the glutes leave me with little to no pain and or lumps.

Right now I'm rotating between both glutes and delts. Quad shots leave me walking like a tard, especially if I gotta get down on my knees to demo a bike to a customer.

 

[Bruce]

yea the win will go thru like butter no doubt, i use a 22 or 23 anyway, it never has happened with deca only winny. i'm telling you it gets jammed with tissue and you cannot push the juice out, it sucks, thats why i quit hiting my thighs

 

[thegooroo]

Just put the amp in a cup of boiling water for a few mins that does the trick

 

[newshipping]

I'm shooting Thai pharmacy Testoviron and vintage Spanish primo both warmed in a cup of hot water prior to shooting and I struggle to depress that plunger. ( using 23g 1.5" dart and 3cc body ) the lady in the pharmacy commented that many guys are complaining about how thick Schering oil is these days.

 

[wayneboard1]

Bro you can easily push Winny through a 25g. If you gonna mix the shot with anything oil based, use a 23 gauge.

Top of the glutes leave me with little to no pain and or lumps.

Right now I'm rotating between both glutes and delts. Quad shots leave me walking like a tard, especially if I gotta get down on my knees to demo a bike to a customer.

Well I'm glad to see I'm not the only one walking "like a tard". I either look like a tard or like I got a corncob stuck up my butt. lol

 

[LVTitan]

Bro you can easily push Winny through a 25g. If you gonna mix the shot with anything oil based, use a 23 gauge.

Top of the glutes leave me with little to no pain and or lumps.

Right now I'm rotating between both glutes and delts. Quad shots leave me walking like a tard, especially if I gotta get down on my knees to demo a bike to a customer.

depends on the winny my friend. remember not all winny is micronized. yes denkall and zambons will go thru 25's like butter, but good old winny v will jam up in a 21 sometimes... depends on the brand

and you should not mix oil based/water based gear in the same shot.
just because some people have gotten away with it, doesnt mean it's a good idea.

 

[babbabuee]

how often you hitting the same spot with 3cc?

 

[hardrock]

and you should not mix oil based/water based gear in the same shot.
just because some people have gotten away with it, doesnt mean it's a good idea.

I've always done it that way and never had a proble. Neither have those I've spoken to about it. In fact before I did it I either posted a thread or read one about it here. To each his own though I guess.

 

[pentatonic]

I've always done it that way and never had a proble. Neither have those I've spoken to about it. In fact before I did it I either posted a thread or read one about it here. To each his own though I guess.

I agree, I mix oil and water together also, never a problem. I've never seen a good answer on why you can't do that either. The only answer I ever see is the same one that's always posted. Water and Oil causes an emulsion etc etc etc....well no shit.... an emulsion is nothing more than a suspension of two liquids that will not mix. That has nothing to do with whether it will be abosorbed or not or cause problems. I'm still waiting on someone to back up their case as to the medical reasoning behind why they say it can't be done.

 

[LVTitan]

I agree, I mix oil and water together also, never a problem. I've never seen a good answer on why you can't do that either. The only answer I ever see is the same one that's always posted. Water and Oil causes an emulsion etc etc etc....well no shit.... an emulsion is nothing more than a suspension of two liquids that will not mix. That has nothing to do with whether it will be abosorbed or not or cause problems. I'm still waiting on someone to back up their case as to the medical reasoning behind why they say it can't be done.

what "can" happen, and does sometimes is that the oil encapsulates some of the water based gear in a pocket, not allowing it to release as fast as it should. when you have water based gear sitting around in a 98 degree moist environment for too long, you have the possibility of infection and abscess.. i havent seen it personally, but several people have posted experiences like that here... that's all...

 

[02gixxersix2]

Don't heat the gear when it's already in the syringe and do not take the pin off and heat it. Heat it under running hot water while its still in the vial or amp. I don't know about anyone else but I'm all about clean injections and most of the advice that has been given would cause a possible contamination of the stuff you are injecting into your body.

 

[pentatonic]

what "can" happen, and does sometimes is that the oil encapsulates some of the water based gear in a pocket, not allowing it to release as fast as it should. when you have water based gear sitting around in a 98 degree moist environment for too long, you have the possibility of infection and abscess.. i havent seen it personally, but several people have posted experiences like that here... that's all...

That's perfectly understanable while the oil is in the syringe, once it's in the muscle tissue the oil and water disperses or spreads out so that theory doesn't hold true once inside muscle tissue. If your gear is sterile and your injecting technique is sterile, there will be no infection.