Info from the Lady Veterans...

[kcpmeo22]

My GF has just started using var (1 week and 1 day in), and is likely going to cycle for 6-8 weeks. This is her first cycle and she is using 5mg/day, and possibly go up to 10mg/day after week 3 if needed. Her stats are 5'6", 128lbs and if I had to guess her body fat is around 20-22%. She is not a novice to the gym but, I am responsible for her 3,000 cal diet and training regimen. Now, for what I want to know:

Is her caloric intake to much for a female her size?
About how much muscle is she looking to gain?
How far into the var cycle will she be b4 she notices muscle gain?
How much of a strength gain (if any) is she looking to see?

As a side note the var is BD and I am positive that it is real. With me being her only means of information on this, I can only relay what I have read (which changes from documentation to documentation). I am hoping to get some feedback from all you lovely ladies who have used var, and compare notes. All responses are greatly appreciated. Thanks again!

KC

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Is her caloric intake to much for a female her size?Depends on her goals. What are they?
About how much muscle is she looking to gain?Depends on diet, training, genetics, rest, history. No set answer for this. We know nothing about her diet, what kind of training she does, and what her goals are. BUT, if everything is SPOT ON, she will likely gain 3-10lbs.
How far into the var cycle will she be b4 she notices muscle gain? Again, depends on her diet, training, rest, genetics and history. SHe should notice strength gain after 2-3 weeks. Muscle gain totally is individual.
How much of a strength gain (if any) is she looking to see?Why would you ask IF she'll gain any strength? If you know ANYTHING about Var, you should know one of the biggest things it does is increase strength. Strength gaiN, again, is individual. Depends on diet, training, ret, genetics and history.

See a common thread here? All your questions have no set answer. It is all individual - as are side effects. I hope she is well aware of what she should be watching for. Side effects are nothing to take lightly.

Why isn't SHE here researching?

 

[Sassy69]

Its hard to answer because people train & diet for many different reasons. Is she looking to bulk up? Lean out? Why did she decide to go on the var in the first place - what were her expectations out of it? And again, it's her body - SHE should be responsible for it.

Give us a little more info on the above, get her logged on & let's start the dialog!

 

[kcpmeo22]

See a common thread here? All your questions have no set answer. It is all individual - as are side effects. I hope she is well aware of what she should be watching for. Side effects are nothing to take lightly.

Why isn't SHE here researching?

Well, she isn't here b/c she wouldn't know what to ask and she has a developed career that is very time consuming, and with training and work she would rather spend her leisure time doing things that she enjoys, hence, I came to ask the questions. I was in no way looking for specific answers, thas why I gave a general question. I was hoping someone around her starting size and a veteran of var would have some input on the situation. I have done enough reading and research to formulate a theory consistant to what I have read and heard. I was just looking for someone who could give me a direct jist of what their gains were, all things being equal. I guess had I put the macronutrient ratios of the 3,000 cals that would have helped but once again I was thinking someone of her physical likeless would have replied with their personal experience. I understand the inconsistency from person to person of training and AAS, which is why I wanted personal standpoints to compare and develop my own conclusion. I guess with the vast majority of people being here having very little knowledge in the fitness arena makes it easy to get complacent with the answers you gurus give, which is why I should have worded my inquiry better. Thanks for the info that was provided though...no such thing as wasted information!

 

[ashley2212]

Well, she isn't here b/c she wouldn't know what to ask and she has a developed career that is very time consuming, and with training and work she would rather spend her leisure time doing things that she enjoys, hence, I came to ask the questions.

There are plenty of well-informed people that write on these boards. You are further defining what they are trying to tell you the problem is (as quoted above). Steroids are very personal and very serious - not to be taken lightly.

Just understand that they are concerned for her well-being. They are not trying to insult you by any means... only trying to tell you that if it's one thing if you're helping her with a workout routine, it's another if you're taking charge of what drugs she's putting into her own body.

If researching nutrition/exercise/steroids is not something she enjoys then perhaps she should reconsider the path she's taking.

 

[jm2mr2bv]

HI, i am his girlfriend. He , just to clear things up, has not been in charge of what i have put into my body. We both have done the research. I just don't have the internet at home right now and only at work. Well i can't do too myuch research for this at work so he helps me out alot. Just wanted to clear it up. I try to get on the board as much as i can. Thanks for understanding ladies.

 

[kcpmeo22]

There are plenty of well-informed people that write on these boards. You are further defining what they are trying to tell you the problem is (as quoted above). Steroids are very personal and very serious - not to be taken lightly.

Just understand that they are concerned for her well-being. They are not trying to insult you by any means... only trying to tell you that if it's one thing if you're helping her with a workout routine, it's another if you're taking charge of what drugs she's putting into her own body.

If researching nutrition/exercise/steroids is not something she enjoys then perhaps she should reconsider the path she's taking.

That must have been taken out of context. I understand exactly where they are coming from and why the gave the answers they did. But I just wanted to clarify the reasoning why she was not doing the research (with me, question=answer). I was a biology major in college... research and formulating my own theories is kinda my thing (my forte if you will, it's all I know), which is why I wanted to hear more of experience based answers so I could make my own conclusions. I am glad for the info that was provided, and next time I will be less lazy and completely define the question. Sorry if my reply sounded bad... cause I luv the ladies!!!!!!

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Regardless, we still can't help her/you without knowing what her goals are, what her diet is like and what her training is like. We also don't know how long she has been training. That is all necessary information.

As far as experienced users, I have taken several cycles of Var (and other things). I know Var. I gave my input based off an experienced user of Var.

Also, most of us have a developed career, train AND have families. AND we still have time to research here and other places. I know you meant no harm in what you said, but 99.9% of us do not sit around here playing on the computer all day. We ALL are busy.

 

[lil nasty]

First of all....Welcome to the board. I am not a veteran but am a var user, with great results I might add. I am currently on my 3rd cycle, BD is my preferred choice as well. I take 15 mg a day and eat 2600 to 3300 calories a day, I am 5'3 @ 135lb. Right now I am eating 2600 to 2700 cutting a little without loosing the muscle I have worked so hard to build. I cannot tell you how much muscle I have put on exactly but can tell you my strength is through the roof!! I went from a 135 lb squat to 225, I am dead lifting 250 and my weakest link is my chest and I am now up to 135 from 85. I know my calories are high compared to most women on this board, you will find most are 1200 to 2000. I eat carbs with EVERY meal even at night and am currently in a size 3 or 5 and my abs are finally showing.

I think it is great you are taking the time to help your girlfriend and also feel sometimes people forget this is a AAS board. Most of the time if I want feedback regarding AAS I have my husband post on the mens forum so I don't catch a bunch of flack. I know everyone is different and sides are nothing to mess around with, however I personally have not had any with var.

I hope you and your girlfriend continue to post here although I would not blame you if you didn't.

N

"Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but ain't nobody wants to push no damn heavy weight".....Ronnie Coleman "The Big Nasty"

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I think it is great you are taking the time to help your girlfriend and also feel sometimes people forget this is a AAS board. Most of the time if I want feedback regarding AAS I have my husband post on the mens forum so I don't catch a bunch of flack. I know everyone is different and sides are nothing to mess around with, however I personally have not had any with var.

I don't think anyone "forgets" this is also an AAS board. We, at least I, do not beleive in pushing AAS on people who are not ready for them. ready for them means making a commitment to reseaching about sides, training for years, and totally understanding what a clean diet is. Most people who post about AAS have heard from their boyfriend that "XY" will help them burn fat, help them gain muscle or whatever. They have no idea what AAS can possibly do to them, or they have no idea what a clean diet entails, or how to train. After several years of being here, I have seem this over and over and over.

I do NOT think AAS is necessary for most people to reach their goals. I do not want to see people, especially females, making decisions that can haunt them for life. No Var might not cause many sides, but how do you know for sure you are taking Var? I bet most people do not get their supply PERSONALLY tested to ensure they are taking the real thing. If someone is not well-informed, they can really screw up their body.

It is a SAFETY thing. Nobody here is trying to make someone (new or old) feel stupid or feel like they cannot post here. We post advice based of the (usually) very limited information we receive. I don't know who is posting, I don't know what your idea of "hard" is, or what you think "clean" is, or what you think is "muscular". So the advice given is usually erring on the "safe side". Wouldn't we all rather remain safe than go off half-cocked?

In the case of the original poster of this thread....he gave VERY limited information on his GF. So NOBODY can answer his questions, at least not really giving useful information. Yes, we can tell our experiences with Var - but that is useless UNLESS he also knows what your training was like, your history, your diet, your goals, and your stats. What happens to one, does not mean it will happen for another.