in the middle of first test cycle..

[rifle mike]

Hi guys. I'm in week 5 of my first cycle. Haven't seen any gains on the mirror yet, a bit of increase in strength definitely has happened, my libido is up like fk, been having trouble in sleeping and my weight has went up 1.5kg . Is it normal not to see any muscle growth yet? I am not able to tell are the changes that happened to me from dbol only and is the susta bunk and not working or is it too early to see muscle growth..
P.S. I'm living in a country where I can't do blood tests without an admission note from a Dr.
My cycle:
Sustanon: Weeks 1-12 @500mg/week (pinned twice)
Dbol: Weeks 1-6 @40mg/day (split every 4-5 hours)
Nolva: Weeks 1-6 @20mg/day (during dbol)
Arimidex: Weeks 7-12 @0.5 eod.
And ofc PCT 3weeks after last pin of susta
Stats
26 y.o
Been lifting for 2years straight
Diet
250-300g protein and ~3500kcal /day

Any help and advice is much appreciated!

 

[rifle mike]

Addition: Been checking blood levels and have been normal.

 

[dylangemelli]

bro, if you ran 6 weeks of dbol and have seen nothing and also using sustanon with nothing, at this point then your gear is absolutely bunk and i also wonder about your diet and training as well... that's far too long to be using dbol as it is... why in the world are you starting with nolva and transitioning into arimidex? that makes NO SENSE whatsoever... bro, if i was you, i would seriously just stop, run pct and completely reassess what your doing before you hurt yourself... seriously bro... im just looking out for your health... you need a new source as well... go to Evolutionary.org Forums as it is an open source forum... then, you need to do more research, ask more questions etc because as is, its not good at all...

 

[rifle mike]

Prob is I have seen a big progress in strength and been having these crazy pumps in the gym. but I'm not seeing any change in the mirror, that's what is not making sense to me... As for the nolva I'm sorry I posted it wrong, I started running the nolva in week 3 when i started seeing gyno, as for the switching to Arimidex, it was because I didn't want to use adex with dbol since most of dbol's gains are from the elevated estrogen while adex would kill it, then after dbol would change to adex since not running dbol anymore, or does this sound crazy to you?

 

[alcatraz1662]

Prob is I have seen a big progress in strength and been having these crazy pumps in the gym. but I'm not seeing any change in the mirror, that's what is not making sense to me... As for the nolva I'm sorry I posted it wrong, I started running the nolva in week 3 when i started seeing gyno, as for the switching to Arimidex, it was because I didn't want to use adex with dbol since most of dbol's gains are from the elevated estrogen while adex would kill it, then after dbol would change to adex since not running dbol anymore, or does this sound crazy to you?

ur not seeing any results in the mirror but are getting great pumps and gyno....I was gonna say bunk gear, but now I'm gonna pull the diet and training card on u. I'm always gonna ask for pics too. cheers,

 

[rifle mike]

ur not seeing any results in the mirror but are getting great pumps and gyno....I was gonna say bunk gear, but now I'm gonna pull the diet and training card on u. I'm always gonna ask for pics too. cheers,

I thought of that too, but I'm really training my ass off, 6 days a week 3hours at the gym every muscle twice a week. Do you think 250-300g of protein and ~3500kcal is too little on a cycle?

 

[rifle mike]

I dropped the dbol now and will wait to see if the pumps continue, if they do that means susta is legit but I'm fking up somewhere else.. Any thoughts?

 

[manumehta]

Bunk gear dude. I blow up like a blow up doll when I am on sust and Dbol to kick start and like Dylan said how the hell did you consider doing dbol for that long............not good man. usually it's a 4 week to kickstart. throw the gear out before you put more of that in your body.

 

[rifle mike]

Know it's a bit long, but I am running liver support with the Dbol, started it a week before the Dbol cycle and was going to run for a week after it..

 

[RickRock13]

Prob is I have seen a big progress in strength and been having these crazy pumps in the gym. but I'm not seeing any change in the mirror, that's what is not making sense to me... As for the nolva I'm sorry I posted it wrong, I started running the nolva in week 3 when i started seeing gyno, as for the switching to Arimidex, it was because I didn't want to use adex with dbol since most of dbol's gains are from the elevated estrogen while adex would kill it, then after dbol would change to adex since not running dbol anymore, or does this sound crazy to you?

Dbols gains do not come from estrogen. Water weight and gyno come from estrogen. You should have used adex or aromasin from day one. If I were you I would stop and run the proper PCT now

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