In defence of Jesus Christ, the Man.

[ceo]

I guess I get no arguements about my "Jesus is not God" post.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I guess I get no arguements about my "Jesus is not God" post.

All you did was take Scripture out of context. Amateurish...

That's probably by why no one argued it.

either that or, you used the limits of man's logic against something conceived of as "all powerful". How could an all powerful being be governed by our laws of logic?

So people ignored that post. They were smart to do so.

You'll never be able to disprove the existence of God. His creators ensured it.

 

[primetime21]

I guess I get no arguements about my "Jesus is not God" post.

I happen to agree. But since its hard enough for "god backers" to prove the existence of god, it would be even harder for them to prove that jesus was god.

I am far from an expert when it comes to christianity, but i do not my share of jewish history and law. And according to jewish law we are waiting for messiah (savior) to finally come and save us. My understanding is that according to christians jesus was the savior. (correct me if i am wrong).

THe problem i have is that according to jewish law when the messiah arrives hate and jealousy and other bad emotions will disappear. God will eliminate illness and hunger and other worldly problems. To my knowledge, this hasnt occurred yet, which is why jews don't believe jesus to be the messiah. And many of the accomplishments outlined in the bible that the messiah was supposed to bring about did not happen.

As for jesus being god, there was never any mention in the bible that the messiah would be god. In fact, as you have mentioned the bible (all i know is the first testament) says repeatedly that god is not a man. So it would be contradictory to believe that god would then become a man.

But then again this is all based on some mythical ideas and notions and open to MANY interpretations.

 

[hellboy]

Jesus, the MAN, taught us to be kind to each other. He taught us not to judge hastily. He taught us that hypocrisy is one of the worst things a man can do to himself and humanity (i.e. Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone). He taught us to help those who are weak but not to support them unconditionally. Instead, he taught us to teach skills that make people self-sufficient. He warned us of those who do not want what is best for humanity....

Mohammed and Moses were messenger boys at best and did not contribute to humanity comined as Jesus did in his short time on earth.

2Thick - I agree with most of your statements and I'm with you 100% in your feelings for organised religion. But I do have issues with your last statement.

Mohammed was teaching these same beliefs 500 years before Jesus was born. Moses was teaching them 3000 years before Jesus was born. They were not messenger boys.

 

[ceo]

All you did was take Scripture out of context. Amateurish...

That's probably by why no one argued it.

either that or, you used the limits of man's logic against something conceived of as "all powerful". How could an all powerful being be governed by our laws of logic?

So people ignored that post. They were smart to do so.

You'll never be able to disprove the existence of God. His creators ensured it.

By all means then "Mr. Professional"...correct me, put my use of scriptures back into their proper context. Shouldn't be too hard for a scholar.

Oh, and I never tried (nor would I ever try) to disprove the existence of God...just that Jesus is not God. This was blatently obvious in my post however.

 

[2Thick]

Re: Re: In defence of Jesus Christ, the Man.

Mohammed was teaching these same beliefs 500 years before Jesus was born.

You have your dates wrong. Mohammed was born 500 year AFTER Jesus.

Moses was teaching them 3000 years before Jesus was born. They were not messenger boys.

Wrong again. Moses was bron around 1575 BC. And he delivered God's message.

 

[primetime21]

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Wrong again. Moses was bron around 1575 BC. And he delivered God's message.

Have you ever studied the bible? And while he did deliver gods message, he also did a lot more than just that.

 

[hellboy]

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You have your dates wrong. Mohammed was born 500 year AFTER Jesus.




Wrong again. Moses was bron around 1575 BC. And he delivered God's message.

You sure about Mohammed? I'll check the dates... Ack. Yep I got that one wrong. Anyway I still stand by the fact that they were both more than messenger boys.

Moses freed the israelites from Pharoh's enslavement and started what is now the Jewish nation. Hardly the actions of a mere messenger boy.

Mohammed started what is currently the world's largest and most practiced religion. Once again more than a messenger boy.

Both taught many of the same tenets that Jesus taught. I don't see how Jesus was any more - or less - influential than either of these men. Or Buddah for that matter.

 

[2Thick]

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Have you ever studied the bible? And while he did deliver gods message, he also did a lot more than just that.

I am not a theologian and I do not care to be.

He did this and that but his important contribution was being the subject of a Charleton Heston movie.

 

[Devastation]

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Mohammed started what is currently the world's largest and most practiced religion. Once again more than a messenger boy.

Christianity has 50% more followers then the next major religion which is islam and more then twice as many as the third which is hinduism