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Philthepill

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Hi There,
Some of you may remember my previous posts but I'm after some real honest advice
I was scared to inject but after all your comments and advice I'm going to go for it!

1. Please can you advise which testosterone to use and dose (how often to inject).
2. If I supplemented with an oral to lower the dose of test initially, what would you suggest and dose/fequency.
3. I dont trust my supplier so I need a new one - again, any reliable decent one?


Many Thanks my friends
Phil
 
Test is test , personally i like enanhate or cypionate, 400-500mgs a week is a good starting area.
I would help if we had more info about you.
 
Hi Phil glad to see you finally maned up haha you need to give your stats to the guys so they can advise you, but I will tell you what I'm going to do so you can use it as a rough guide. I'm going to be taking 2 250mg injections of test e twice a week injection1 on Tuesday and injection 2 on Sunday I will be running Arimidex along side this and then I'm going to add some Prov in the mix and when I'm into my last 6 weeks of my 12 week cycle I'm going to add 50mg of anavar and for pct I'm going to do clomid and hcg I don't no the doses of these yet hope this helps a little I have to say I am not as knowledgeable as most on this forum and will be asking for their help soon. Good luck.
 
Considering it's your first run with IM injections, definitely choose a long ester test so that you only have to pin 2x a week (sust, enanthate, or cyp)

And I agree with the above a good starting dose is 500mg, unless your like 6'4 tipping the scale at 250 pounds, 500mg/week is a good moderate dose (my first test run was 500mg test enanthate, and I made great gains in 12 weeks)

As for orals, I think your first run should be test only so you know how you react and what sides (if any) you experience. Then add an oral as a finisher when gains start to slow or into your next cycle as a kick starts. If your set on running an oral, Tbol would be a good mild oral that doesn't aromatize so it does not increase estrogen related sides. Can also be used for multiple goals (gaining size strength and weight on a bulker, or maintaining strength and muscle on a cut)

Make sure you have an AI on hand at least, although i would recommend implementing a low dose AI from the start of the cycle to be on the safe side... Gyno ain't a pretty picture.

Hope that helps a bit, your in for a good time!!
 
Hi Guys, Thanks for the info so far
My Height is 6 Foot 4 inches and I weigh 18 Stone 4 Pounds
My age (sadly lol) is 47. I am very fit and have always exercised
Hope this is the details you need from me to help
I was using MegaBol as an AI but was advised not too. Another question then - What is Megabol then, if it's not an AI - what does it do?
Im so sorry for sounding so thick but my previous supplier wasn't honest, sold me crap that could of killed me. So now I don't know what is right and what is wrong.
Anyway, please keep letting me know as much info as possible and thank you guys for being so honest with me. You might just of saved my life!! - I know that sounds dramatic but my old supplier was fucking my liver up.
Cheers my friends
Phil
 
I'd advice you not to use any AAS.
But if you already made your mind then it becomes a matter of availability.

I'd advice against INJECTABLE UnderGroud Laboratories (UGL) stuff, (oral UGL gear is ok),
So while test ain't adviced for a beginner, test can be legit from big pharma as it's legally used for TRT.

Or you can use veterinary gear, equipoise or deca, but it usually comes in low concentrations (low mg/ml), thus requiring large and frequent injections.

Always check pictures to make sure they ain't fake. And NEVER inject when in doubt.

I'd find a student nurse to inject you.
With test once a week injections are still OK.

You can try starting with 1 test shot per week (250 mg) for some 5 weeks and then 2 shots per week (500 mg). Look for some aromatase inhibitors or at least clomid or tamoxifen tabs.

While far from ideal for a beginner it will work given the limited availability.
 
big_boy_1 said:
I'd advice you not to use any AAS.
But if you already made your mind then it becomes a matter of availability.

I'd advice against INJECTABLE UnderGroud Laboratories (UGL) stuff, (oral UGL gear is ok),
So while test ain't adviced for a beginner, test can be legit from big pharma as it's legally used for TRT.

Or you can use veterinary gear, equipoise or deca, but it usually comes in low concentrations (low mg/ml), thus requiring large and frequent injections.

Always check pictures to make sure they ain't fake. And NEVER inject when in doubt.

I'd find a student nurse to inject you.
With test once a week injections are still OK.

You can try starting with 1 test shot per week (250 mg) for some 5 weeks and then 2 shots per week (500 mg). Look for some aromatase inhibitors or at least clomid or tamoxifen tabs.

While far from ideal for a beginner it will work given the limited availability.
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Test isnt advised for a beginner? Are you serious!? Its all we advise for a beginner...
 
Yeah big boy your confusing me everything I have read and learnt say test first cycle and now your saying no wtf
 
^^^ this! TEST is the BEST for a first run, imo as long as your health is in good form to begin with and your not sitting at 20%bf than it really is not much of a concern as long as it's not abused to an extent!

If our commited to diet properly and train hard and live the lifestyle, even at your age I see no cons in running a test only cycle.

Indont know what the hell that AI is that you were recommended but definately not an AI haha! Your guy is a real donkey for trying to get you to take that. You need aromasin or arimidex... Letro is an option but is way overkill imo unless you are gyno prone and you know this already. I would advise aromasin as its easier on the lipid profile. I use arimidex because it keeps me drier and it's cheaper from my source for the amount I use.

Btw that's hilarious hat you ARE 6'4 hahaha I was totally trig to make an exaggerated statement about your stats. But i still believe 500mg/week would be a good starting point, taper up if necessary or wait till you cycle again to try a higher dose!
 
1. I can't be the only one still trying to figure out the "stone" conversion. What happened to kilos?!

2. This is the first time in my recent memory that a dead set oral only-er has actually stopped being a p*ssy and listened to reason. Bravo bro, bra-fxkin-vo. Really you won't be disappointed
 
Sorry NO, got bit of a belly though, dropped waist size from 38inch to 34inch thanks to that twatt of a supplier. the only thing he did right!!
 
And ya need a new source bro, "megabol" just sounds suspect. I'm gonna start selling a "swoleabol" and a "getbigabol" stack
 
zmyj88 said:
And ya need a new source bro, "megabol" just sounds suspect. I'm gonna start selling a "swoleabol" and a "getbigabol" stack
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That won't work.
IMO the guy needs a cutting cycle.
Only Sweatabol will work. LOL.
As funny as it sounds, it won't take long for UGLs to name their stuff that way, and fo newbies to fall from it.

In fact MASTERon, PROviron, Primoteston are catchy names.
 
spursmad said:
Yeah big boy your confusing me everything I have read and learnt say test first cycle and now your saying no wtf
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It's because I live in a country where AAS are legal.
So I'll advice a newbie to do a eq/deca first cycle and leave test for the 2nd or 3rd cycle.

Likely AAS are scheduled where you live, so I'd prefer legit pharmaceutical test over UGL eq/deca.
 
zmyj88 said:
You want eq/deca only for a first?! What's the reasoning here??
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Srs man??? EQ/deca only?? Deca without test imo is one of the worst decisions you could make, that stuff shuts you DOWN! Base everything with freakin test! TEST/EQ/deca maybe, but why not skip the EQ if your running deca? Unnecessary compound, much more benefits and more useful in a dryer cycle. If it's appetite increase you want from it look into ghrp-6 and if it's the vascularity and hardness than skip the deca altogether and run EQ and moderate test alone instead.

My .02$$$$
 
SwollenMember_18 said:
Srs man??? EQ/deca only?? Deca without test imo is one of the worst decisions you could make, that stuff shuts you DOWN! Base everything with freakin test! TEST/EQ/deca maybe, but why not skip the EQ if your running deca? Unnecessary compound, much more benefits and more useful in a dryer cycle. If it's appetite increase you want from it look into ghrp-6 and if it's the vascularity and hardness than skip the deca altogether and run EQ and moderate test alone instead.

My .02$$$$
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That's what idid, test 450 and eq, loved it. I would have felt some type of way if my first experience was the D not working for months
 
zmyj88 said:
That's what idid, test 450 and eq, loved it. I would have felt some type of way if my first experience was the D not working for months
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Hahaha! No doubt brotha! What's the damn point in being a beast if you can't even awaken the beast!!! I ran test at 500mg and EQ at 800 last year as well, honestly one of my favourite cycles.. Smooth steady gains for 20 straight weeks, nice n lean the whole time! Chucked in a
Cuppa tbol as a finisher and boom gotcha self some thick lean growth
 
What would a cycle like this look like from week to week? I am looking for easy slow gains

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First cycle should be test only. See how your body reacts. You should be taking an AI (arimedex) .25 eod. Do not forget the hCG of 2x 250 each week.
Imho you should always be taking test and hCG with every cycle.
I would also get bloodwork done to see your baseline before cycling
 
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