hey any one know enough to give a low down of the effects of IGF supplementation.
The most current info please.
-Iron
The most current info please.
-Iron
IronJunkey said:hey any one know enough to give a low down of the effects of IGF supplementation.
The most current info please.
-Iron![]()
what exactly do you want to know, I know igf in and outs......it's a peptide (partial protein string) uses igfbp's (binding proteins) to lock into cell receptors. the major advantage of igf-lr1 is that it can bind to satellite cells around the muscle cells, before these cells know what they want to be in life, causing them to become muscle cells, or hyperplasia, which is all new muscle, not growth of pre-existing cells
IronJunkey said:hey any one know enough to give a low down of the effects of IGF supplementation.
The most current info please.
-Iron![]()
awesome information in this discussion, I learned a lot from it.Magick69 said:
IronJunkey said:ya how real are the results and what kinda risks are involved in using it. how do you adapt to it...?
indy69camaro said:the results are very real, and very noticable. the biggest downside in my opinion is that in large doses (just like gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - ) you risk your internal organs growing as well. For instance the stomach / intestinal tract has approximately 30 receptors for every 1 in muscle tissue making your organs susceptible to growth as well. This can somewhat be avoided or at least reduce the risk by doing site injections in small amounts, vs large single doses. You can assist this 10 fold by shooting only after your workout when the IGF receptors are ready to receive, this will allow for site uptake and minimal systemic action, but going systemic (body wide via bloodstream) will always happen to a degree in any doseage amount.
truckdaddy said:how long do i have to pin after a workout, i live ten minutes from my gym, and would waxy maze be a good carb to take with it?
indy69camaro said:about 60 minutes
timtim said:there is a huge difference between the igf from research companies and the igf from real pharmacies. i have seen the results in person and the difference is large. same person did both types at different times and the real deal shit was crazy compared to the research sites.
i wouldnt run this shit personally. the only people i would listen to in the bb drug game always say be careful with this shit like insulin and dnp - dinitrophenol - . its a serious drug and isnt necessary for novice, local show competitive bbers. its like gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - practically and all you hear are newbies with 3 cycles down running this shit like its a light drug when it clearly isnt.[/QUOTE
I have never read that is a scary drug.......
truckdaddy said:timtim said:there is a huge difference between the igf from research companies and the igf from real pharmacies. i have seen the results in person and the difference is large. same person did both types at different times and the real deal shit was crazy compared to the research sites.
i wouldnt run this shit personally. the only people i would listen to in the bb drug game always say be careful with this shit like insulin and dnp - dinitrophenol - - dinitrophenol - . its a serious drug and isnt necessary for novice, local show competitive bbers. its like gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) - practically and all you hear are newbies with 3 cycles down running this shit like its a light drug when it clearly isnt.[/QUOTE
I have never read that is a scary drug.......
*this doesnt apply to serious competitors, just the sheeple who listen to anything and everything*
never said it was scary. its serious gear for serious people. any old gym rat needing to run igf better be fucking maxed out on size, know all they need to know about training, and know their diet to the letter. if these things are in place, then run it. if not, focus on weaknesses before hitting heavy gear. its almost like growth hormone, do you take gh lightly?
timtim said:*this doesnt apply to serious competitors, just the sheeple who listen to anything and everything*
never said it was scary. its serious gear for serious people. any old gym rat needing to run igf better be fucking maxed out on size, know all they need to know about training, and know their diet to the letter. if these things are in place, then run it. if not, focus on weaknesses before hitting heavy gear. its almost like growth hormone, do you take gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - lightly?[/QUO
Do i take it lightly? I would say at 2ius ed, pretty much yes
timtim said:there is a huge difference between the igf from research companies and the igf from real pharmacies. i have seen the results in person and the difference is large. same person did both types at different times and the real deal shit was crazy compared to the research sites.
i wouldnt run this shit personally. the only people i would listen to in the bb drug game always say be careful with this shit like insulin and dnp - dinitrophenol - . its a serious drug and isnt necessary for novice, local show competitive bbers. its like gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - practically and all you hear are newbies with 3 cycles down running this shit like its a light drug when it clearly isnt.
indy69camaro said:If you are referring to media grade vs. receptor grade, it has been shown over and over that for BB use no difference can be seen, however the two are drastically different when using in the lab for medical testing purposes. Also technically a real "pharmacy" doens't make igf yet, like to know where you saw fda approved igf at.........they are yet to approve it making it all underground at this point.
timtim said:i can only comment on the results i have seen in person. thats why i posted on this thread, because i saw the same guy do 2 different kinds.
he got one of the research chem company brands and the results were barely evident. then he got another brand from a current pro (i dont know the brand or any info other than it was igf and from his mouth, legit - though i do know he mentioned a compounding pharmacist who may have made it as he gets alot of his gear like that) and the results were drastic.
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