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If you could be a pro BB.

Would you become a pro bodybuilder if you could?

  • Yes

    Votes: 46 46.9%

  • No

    Votes: 42 42.9%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 7 7.1%
  • Total voters
    98
mlong23

mlong23

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If you had the ablity to become a pro bodybuilder would you? You have the right genetics (along with steroids) and all the drugs at your disposal, do you do what you must in order to become a pro?
 
yes, but that shawn ray, flex wheeler , dexter jackson look. Not necessarily the winning look. As long as i could get a lucrative contract to make a decent living to support my family.
 
I dont think I would for the simple fact that, unless you're placing in the top 5 or higher at every show, you wouldnt make money. The sport just isnt big enough and the money just isnt there to warrant competing at the pro level. Guys like Coleman and Cutler and a few others, they only have to do 1 show per yr and they still make a killing, not to mention their sponsors. But if you dont have sponsors and top placings, its very difficult to do as a profession. Theres just way too much time and dedication that goes into it when you are competing.
 
Unless your in the top ten of mens bodybuilding or have a face like Brad Pitt you will always put more money into it then you will get out(unless you turn to helping out gay men). As an accomplishment, yes as a career, no.
 
blacksabbath1987 said:
destroyer you are a big ole boy!!!!!! nice lats and back!!! that is my goal to have the extreme cobra look good job!!!!!!
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Fucking arms are jacked too.
 
dale_gribble said:
I dont think I would for the simple fact that, unless you're placing in the top 5 or higher at every show, you wouldnt make money. The sport just isnt big enough and the money just isnt there to warrant competing at the pro level. Guys like Coleman and Cutler and a few others, they only have to do 1 show per yr and they still make a killing, not to mention their sponsors. But if you dont have sponsors and top placings, its very difficult to do as a profession. Theres just way too much time and dedication that goes into it when you are competing.
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Money isn't made from contest placings, it's made from guest posing and endorsements with supp companies.
 
I compete every year in my own competition against myself and every year I take home the gold! j/k in all seriousness I could never make lifting weights my only focus in life or should I say my main focus in life. Takes a shitload of time, training, cheating yourself out of tasty foods but I do respect those who do. Hats off to you!
 
silverbackn said:
Money isn't made from contest placings, it's made from guest posing and endorsements with supp companies.
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Not true bro.

Colemans $150,000.00 and Cutlers $85,000.00 pay checks for the 2005 Mr.O werent a result of guest posing or endorsements my friend. Im not disputing the fact that posedowns and endorsements dont make them good money, but if you arent placing high, you're not making good money. All of your money is going back into juice, food and anything else it takes for you to compete. You have to be making very good money to compete at the pro level if you want to be able to survive in a day to day normal life.
 
dale_gribble said:
Not true bro.

Colemans $150,000.00 and Cutlers $85,000.00 pay checks for the 2005 Mr.O werent a result of guest posing or endorsements my friend. Im not disputing the fact that posedowns and endorsements dont make them good money, but if you arent placing high, you're not making good money. All of your money is going back into juice, food and anything else it takes for you to compete. You have to be making very good money to compete at the pro level if you want to be able to survive in a day to day normal life.
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I agree those are big checks, but there are a lot of dudes who make a good living without even being a PRO!!!!!!!! When I was at Ronnie's house a few months ago he had a Cadillac STS that BSN just threw in after he signed with them. Look at guys like Dave Palumbo, Chad Martin, for that matter every guy who has a deal with Muscletech, Twinlab, MHP, etc. They are making good money from those contracts. Granted, it is still a pretty small number, but you don't have to be a top 5 guy to be making good money.
 
Devide those dollar figures by the number of years it took them to that salary subtract all the time and money spent at the gym buying supplements extra food needed to get that size and I bet it does not equate to much at all. Still it takes a lot of drive and determination not to mention commitment to get there and there are no guarantees! Not by any means am I cutting it or anyone down but in the overall picture you have to achieve your dreams and goals to get anywhere in this sport. Just my opinion.
 
silverbackn said:
I agree those are big checks, but there are a lot of dudes who make a good living without even being a PRO!!!!!!!! When I was at Ronnie's house a few months ago he had a Cadillac STS that BSN just threw in after he signed with them. Look at guys like Dave Palumbo, Chad Martin, for that matter every guy who has a deal with Muscletech, Twinlab, MHP, etc. They are making good money from those contracts. Granted, it is still a pretty small number, but you don't have to be a top 5 guy to be making good money.
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I completely agree with you. I know that even guys like Shawn Ray who are ritired now and a few others are still making a killing and wont ever have to work again. What I actually mean though, and just as an example, lets say Greg Rando. Greg Rando is by far my favorite BB'er of all time. I really respect the hell out of him for what he's achieved and for all the hard work he puts into everything he does. But the fact is, Greg Rando will never be a high placer in his whole career, and he barely has endorsements that will actually make him any real money considering what he has to put back into it, so its one of those things that, he will compete his ass off for the rest of his career taking low spots and making nothing in return, in fact he'll be putting more out than he will be bringning in. Thus, forcing his to have to work a real job to make ends meet. This is what I meant by the fact I wouldnt want to become pro. BB'ing has never been a big sport, and the actual fan base for pro BB'ing is so small that, you cant even consider it a widely viewed sport at all. This is why the purses are still so small. When you think of the hard work that goes into BB'ing and the complete effort that goes into it, I would personally say its one of the hardest sports in the world. Basketball, baseball and other sports are nothing compared to the hard training that goes into BB'ing, and thats not saying other sports dont require hard work either. I played hockey for over 13yrs at the AAA level and I know it was hard as hell, but BB'ing is much harder for me when I really put the work into it.

JMO :)
 
I would like to go pro for like a year, but now its simply to unhealthy to want to be in the game as long as those guys do. I give them all the credit, their lifes cannot be much but the sport with the dedication that is needed. I would take arnolds body any day before the rest. I think with hard work and mild cycles you can maintain his body in his younger years(if you had the genetics of course).
 
rusbus01 said:
who gives a shit about the money if ur in it for the money pick another sport
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yeah exactly what i was thinking and about to say but u got to it before me :-)

Who gives a shit how much you make..if you wanna be a pro you better have the dedication, consistency, genetics, and most importantly, the heart and desire to place well. I just do it as a hobby and for fun, i have a life and career outside of this...just started paramedic school and getting my BSE in exercise science this summer (interning now). Since i dont plan on this being my career, i have paramedic school as my money making career, and #1 priority. Just cuz priority #2 (bodybuilding) isnt at the top doesnt mean its not my fun priority, cuz it definately is, and i love it (thats what'll keep u going in this sport). If you have the ambition, drive, and goals, and knowledge to implement those goals...you can make your own destiny.
 
rusbus01 said:
who gives a shit about the money if ur in it for the money pick another sport
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Tell that to the mortgage company after you just spent $75K on contest prep and won a $60K purse for 1st place-you're still $15K in the hole. I remember Strydom renting a 2 room apartment above Powerhouse in Venice-he didn't even own a car. Talk about sacrifices-I can't imagine living like that regardless of how big and ripped I was.

In the grand scheme of life, just how important is being #1 in a sport that pays pennies by comparison to other pro sports? Very few bodybuilders will ever be household names like Arnold,Lou Ferrigno, etc. Especially when the fan base is comprised of a cult following of fags and freaks that will forget about you the minute you're injured or your health takes a shit. In addition, the general public will never respect you-you'll just be another roided up freak that lacks self respect to most.

Fuck pro BB-unless I was guaranteed a 6 fig/yr income to compete in one show a yr it wouldn't be worth it. And even then I'd have to give it serious thought. I chose to walk away from competing after feeling I was readyy to compete nationally. Once I objectively researched what it would entail along with the ongoing political factors where some competitors offer sexual favors to the judges in return for higher placement, I said no thanks.
 
BigCracker said:
Tell that to the mortgage company after you just spent $75K on contest prep and won a $60K purse for 1st place-you're still $15K in the hole. I remember Strydom renting a 2 room apartment above Powerhouse in Venice-he didn't even own a car. Talk about sacrifices-I can't imagine living like that regardless of how big and ripped I was.

In the grand scheme of life, just how important is being #1 in a sport that pays pennies by comparison to other pro sports? Very few bodybuilders will ever be household names like Arnold,Lou Ferrigno, etc. Especially when the fan base is comprised of a cult following of fags and freaks that will forget about you the minute you're injured or your health takes a shit. In addition, the general public will never respect you-you'll just be another roided up freak that lacks self respect to most.

Fuck pro BB-unless I was guaranteed a 6 fig/yr income to compete in one show a yr it wouldn't be worth it. And even then I'd have to give it serious thought. I chose to walk away from competing after feeling I was readyy to compete nationally. Once I objectively researched what it would entail along with the ongoing political factors where some competitors offer sexual favors to the judges in return for higher placement, I said no thanks.
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if your looking fame or money this sport isnt for you....you have to love this shit ....you have to love everything from eating fucking nasty ass food, not going out , sticking yourself with needles, the list goes on an on and if that list doesnt give u a boner just thinking about the possibilities dont try and be a pro bb .......for some people winning that fucking trophy or just doing it for the sake of being diffrent then everyone else is enough the people who look for the money and fame will most likely be dissapointed in the end.... LOVE THIS FUCKING SHIT
 
BigCracker said:
Tell that to the mortgage company after you just spent $75K on contest prep and won a $60K purse for 1st place-you're still $15K in the hole. I remember Strydom renting a 2 room apartment above Powerhouse in Venice-he didn't even own a car. Talk about sacrifices-I can't imagine living like that regardless of how big and ripped I was.

In the grand scheme of life, just how important is being #1 in a sport that pays pennies by comparison to other pro sports? Very few bodybuilders will ever be household names like Arnold,Lou Ferrigno, etc. Especially when the fan base is comprised of a cult following of fags and freaks that will forget about you the minute you're injured or your health takes a shit. In addition, the general public will never respect you-you'll just be another roided up freak that lacks self respect to most.

Fuck pro BB-unless I was guaranteed a 6 fig/yr income to compete in one show a yr it wouldn't be worth it. And even then I'd have to give it serious thought. I chose to walk away from competing after feeling I was readyy to compete nationally. Once I objectively researched what it would entail along with the ongoing political factors where some competitors offer sexual favors to the judges in return for higher placement, I said no thanks.
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150% CORRECT!!!!! Its a little hard telling your landlord you cant pay the rent because you came in 15th place at the Classic. Even if you say you're doing it for the love of the sport, the love isnt going to pay the bills. Pro BB'ing is a 24hr a day job, and to say fuck the money, just doesnt cut it.
 
steelmass said:
I'd want to look like Ronnie... but bigger...
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LMAO! Ronnies a genetic freak! :D

But the way the judging is going these days, guys like Ronnie and Jay are going to be a thing of the past. Pro BB'ing has been a far to political for sport for too long now, and its time they went back to judging on over all body comp and looks rather than judging on who the person is.
 
But I thought anyone could be a pro? It was only a month or so ago that a droolingly retarded t-mag editoral was linked to on this very forum, where Milos Sarcev said we all have our own little inner pro just waiting to come out.

Would I like their genetics and response to sauce? Fuck yes, I think anyone who takes gear would. You could do pissant little cycles with pro genetics, eat like a bird and do the most half assed training possible... and still look ready for a 70's/80's magazine cover. yes, I'd like Vince Taylors genes next time round please
 
dale_gribble said:
150% CORRECT!!!!! Its a little hard telling your landlord you cant pay the rent because you came in 15th place at the Classic. Even if you say you're doing it for the love of the sport, the love isnt going to pay the bills. Pro BB'ing is a 24hr a day job, and to say fuck the money, just doesnt cut it.
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I think the younger guys are still disillusioned into thinking that if they're pic is in a magazine they're on easy street. Once you become an adult, you can still love bodybuilding, but how much do you love yourself when you put every dime you make in your ass? The only way you could justify being pro is if you're a total attention whore that bases their entire self esteem on how many "damn, you're huge" compliments they get in a day-which are usually followed by a "dumbass won't live til he's 35" comment as soon as they walk away. Even if you are an attention whore, there's gonna be a time/place where you want your privacy and you won't have any. because you're an ambassdador to the sport of BB, you will be required to stop whatever you're doing and sign an autograph and answer moronic "dbol only" cycle questions. If you don't you'll be labled a dick-just like Eminem was for not signing some kid's autograph while he was trying to take a shit in a public restroom. Even as an amateur I encountered this kind of scenario. Because personal training paid my bills, and most of my biz was referrals, I couldn't afford to be a dick to anyone cuz it could cost me clients down the line. Imagine being on a date w/ a girl and having the waiter sit down at the table and start telling you about his injuries, workout history, etc. You're trying to close the deal w/ your date, and you have some cockblocker workout nut humping your leg the whole time. It sucks. I can only imagine how much worse it would be if I were pro.
 
dale_gribble said:
LMAO! Ronnies a genetic freak! :D

But the way the judging is going these days, guys like Ronnie and Jay are going to be a thing of the past. Pro BB'ing has been a far to political for sport for too long now, and its time they went back to judging on over all body comp and looks rather than judging on who the person is.
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Judging in pro contests can be a joke. Too political, and far too subjective. What they want in one contest changes the next.
 
botrx said:
Judging in pro contests can be a joke. Too political, and far too subjective. What they want in one contest changes the next.
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You're going to see some big changes in the way BB'ing is judged from now on pretty much. All the Colemans and Cutlers will be a thing of the past.
 
dex is the only guy i think looks like the classic bber like serge and shawn ray. his bro johnny has a sick build too. i honestly, not to dick ride, but i would rather look like makavelli on ef more than any bber just me though.
 
I would. But not for the IFBB. Wayne Demlias new pro division looks promising. They said their ideal for a champion is 6'4, 260 range, good looks. Something to make people interested again. I guess 5'6 weighing 280lbs and needing oxygen tanks back stage (even Dexter needed oxygen at the Arnold this year. Even his look isn't healthy) isn't cutting it anymore. I love the look and I respect what they do but it's ruining the sport.
 
Too bad the AAU isn't still around. At least if you won an AAU show the promoter often paid your way to go to the Mr America/ Mr Universe. Unfortunately the NPC often blackballed AAU competitors, so it lost a lot of popularity-at least here in the states.
 
rusbus01 said:
if your looking fame or money this sport isnt for you....you have to love this shit ....you have to love everything from eating fucking nasty ass food, not going out , sticking yourself with needles, the list goes on an on and if that list doesnt give u a boner just thinking about the possibilities dont try and be a pro bb .......for some people winning that fucking trophy or just doing it for the sake of being diffrent then everyone else is enough the people who look for the money and fame will most likely be dissapointed in the end.... LOVE THIS FUCKING SHIT
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You need to love it..PERIOD. Live it..breathe it...research it endlessly...then some more...train..dream...do the impossible....repeat...

Like other sports...this one isnt about the money..it's about doing something you never thought you could do...and getting up on that stage with all your pride and glory and making the near impossible a reality. it's only for a short period in your life, so im trying to make the best of it while im still young, since ill most likely be retired from competing when im in my late 30s, and or, when i peak..
 
DG, I couldn't agree more. BB'ing does require a sick amount of discipline and sacrifice. It is a thankless and fameless endeavor considering how much is put into it. I played college baseball and I can say that every show I have done was a much bigger accomplishment than putting on the jersey for a few hours a day. It's a sport you have to love to be involved in. If you're doing it for money you might as well go try something else. It is a rewarding sport in the sense of feelings of accomplishment and personal improvement, but it would be brutal to try to make a living from it even if you were an average pro!
 
I would say: hell yes!
 
Not for me. First I don't have the genetics for it, but this was a hypothetical poll. So even if I did have what it takes, I don't ever want to be obligated to anyone but to myself for my progress and maintenance.

Charles
 
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