If you are using Oral steroids, you need to take this to save your liver.

[centeroiler]

I would like to put forth a different view point. After having studied and examined many liver disease patients I think all of the liver health supps are actually bad for the liver. Everything you injest, that is water soluble and therefor goes into the hepatic portal vein system, places a strain on the liver. There is nothing you can take that will protect your liver. The best way to protect your liver is to not injest things that will harm it. Even spicey foods put strain on the liver. There a was a case in the news a while back of a up and coming chef that made a vary hot hot sauce. He eat some and died in the night. I'm sure it was from liver failure.

So if you are taking things that put a strain on the liver you need blood work regualrly to tell if you are getting into trouble. Blood tests like ALT and AST are not liver funtion tests. They test for inflamation and can give false readings from a heavy leg workout. The test you nee for liver function is a GGT. It costs more but is the only way to get the real information about how your liver is doing.

If you do get blood work and it shows your liver is under to much strain stop everything going into your body. Fast on water with a little lemon juice for a few days. A three day fast will drop much more fat then muscle so don't worry to much about it. After the fast eat foods like white rice or potatoes. After a few days add some veggies that are not acidic. After about a month recheck you liver values. They should be normal or close to normal.

Don't waste your money and put more strain on your liver by stuffing these liver supps down your throat.

Big_Joe, can you come back on and explain this please? I am very interested in how you came to these conclusions.

 

[2evil]

Well I mean come on. I am sure they must hate the stuff. Anything cutting into there paycheck and kick backs from the drug companies.

I like MM because she knows how much better herbal and natural meds are for you, ANd exactly why anyone in the medical field will say and do everything they can to get you not to use them.

VERY true!

 

[terrapin]

no need to bust on all Drs. herbs don't have anything to do with paychecks. some people like them, some don't. lets not generalize.

 

[needtogetaas]

no need to bust on all Drs. herbs don't have anything to do with paychecks. some people like them, some don't. lets not generalize.

AAAHHH god I love your posts. Because each one gives me another chance to see that girls hot bod.

 

[terrapin]

thanks man. i haven't been on in some time. i just was checking out my avy- god i'd love to get that. peace needto

 

[needtogetaas]

thanks man. i haven't been on in some time. i just was checking out my avy- god i'd love to get that. peace needto

Peace bro.

 

[sensational]

There is very little scientific basis for any liver supps...

But, if it works for people, and they have seen results in blood tests (Placebo effect?) then it is good for them.

Liver Detox is the only way in my opinion...which could be wrong, but I have yet to be persuaded to buy liver supps.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

would you suggest backing off vitamin supps while on oral cycles?

I think it is VERY important to get all of your required vitamins and minerals while taking gear or even just training.



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[Ruca]

4l8r

 

[njmuscleguy]

I can only speak from personal experience, I tried Liv52, Tyler's, etc. several times and then had my liver enzymes checked and none of them brought the values down andy lower than those times when I hadn't...

I do think that it's a good idea to take r-ALA and N-Acetyl-Cystein because there is a ton of favorable research on them for good overall liver health.

Just my 2 cents