I think i'm ready for pro-hormones

[Distortion]

Alright, i've been going back in forth weather or not to use em, i'm 16... now before you say.. oh ur too young i've been lifting for about 3 years.

I've been doing research and my main and really only concern is that traditional pro-hormones will stunt my growth.

with things like 1-ad coming out, with its no aromatization qualaties, it should not stung my growth (because increased estrogen means pre-mature growth plate fusion). Well atleast technically.

Par, whats the word on "One"

I've also been looking at mag-10, but that has 4-AD in it, they claim virtual no aromatization with it, but i'm no expert.

What do you guys think

 

[FitnessFrk]

there is a big difference between lifting and training. I highly doubt you have been "training" for 3 years.

If you had done the right research you would KNOW that there is no prohormone out there that can compete with the natural levels of testosterone that your body is putting out.

what is the rush to get big so fast with you kids these days ?

 

[Distortion]

did i ever say that a prohormone was better than natural testosterone.

And the reason that "kids" like me are obssesed w/ size and strength is usually for a sport. We have to get stronger

 

[FitnessFrk]

so if it's not better why would you take it ?

do you know what happens when the bodys natural testosterone production is interrupted ? especially at your age, during puberty ?

If not, you had better hit the library and do real research.

I'm just trying to help you out my friend, not bust your chops...

 

[pa1ad]

there is a big difference between lifting and training. I highly doubt you have been "training" for 3 years.

If you had done the right research you would KNOW that there is no prohormone out there that can compete with the natural levels of testosterone that your body is putting out.

what is the rush to get big so fast with you kids these days ?

Testosterone levels in males on average peak in their early twenties, not their teens. Androgen sensitivity however is probably highest at young teen years

 

[pa1ad]

so if it's not better why would you take it ?

do you know what happens when the bodys natural testosterone production is interrupted ? especially at your age, during puberty ?

If not, you had better hit the library and do real research.

I'm just trying to help you out my friend, not bust your chops...

I don't think teenagers should use prohormones either, but I do have to admit the reasons you are giving him really suck.

They should not do them primarily because usually they have not developed the proper psychological maturity yet. It is not good for someone to go from being a skinny kid to a burly man in a short period of time. Those awkward adolescent years are so important to the development of a strong character. That is my opinion

 

[riskybizz007]

other than psychological i thought it did something to your bones not allowing them to grow properly...

 

[FitnessFrk]

true test levels "peak" in the 20's but levels begin to raise sharply in the teen years. along with many other hormones.

the teen years would be the worst period of time where a person would want to "experiment" with things with no substantial positive medical evidence let alone what negative effects it could have on someone during the main growth years. "growth spurts" occur in the teen years.

 

[Distortion]

the teen years would be the worst period of time where a person would want to "experiment" with things with no substantial positive medical evidence let alone what negative effects it could have on someone during the main growth years. "growth spurts" occur in the teen years.

maybe i could be ur guinie pig.. no i'm kidding.

i dont mean this in a negative way but u guys kinda seem oblivious to the shit that people my age use. Supplement companies target us to buy anything they can think of. Also tons of athleates rely on steroids. I have friends that pop DHEA pills like vitamins.

I agree with most of your statements and i know this isn't probably the best thing i can do right now. But just because i'm young doesn't mean i'm dumb about these things. I really need to take this one step further

 

[pa1ad]

other than psychological i thought it did something to your bones not allowing them to grow properly...

Yes, excessive amounts of aromatizing androgens can cause premature closing of the ends of the bonds (epiphyseal closure), thus reducing your ultimate height.

 

[pa1ad]

true test levels "peak" in the 20's but levels begin to raise sharply in the teen years. along with many other hormones.

the teen years would be the worst period of time where a person would want to "experiment" with things with no substantial positive medical evidence let alone what negative effects it could have on someone during the main growth years. "growth spurts" occur in the teen years.

I appreciate your concern, but I still don't know what beyond premature epiphyseal closure makes steroid use in teenage years any less toxic than in adult years. I know you have alot of suspicions, but as a scientist I want facts. Personally, I can't point my finger on any.

 

[pa1ad]

I appreciate your concern, but I still don't know what beyond premature epiphyseal closure makes steroid use in teenage years any less toxic than in adult years. I know you have alot of suspicions, but as a scientist I want facts. Personally, I can't point my finger on any.

Note: This is NOT an endorsement of teenage prohormone or anabolic steroid use

 

[FitnessFrk]

I come from a family of pro football players so I know about professional sports. My uncle was a d back and my father was a full back and can barely play golf with out pain now. but that was his choice that he made after college (who wouldn't have ! ).

The question is at what price are you willing to pay? To excel now and by burned out, possibly seriously injured later on in your 20's and 30's. and spend the rest of your life on the couch as a spectator?

I loved sports all through school and was fortunate to be a natural athlete. I saw friends take roids for football in high school, sure they kicked ass then when they got to college they blew because they had no real athletic abilities.

It’s your call, but you will find out in life not to many "good" things come quick or easy that are worthwhile or long lasting.

Good luck with whatever decision you make!

 

[Distortion]

yeah i know exactly what ur talking about...
but this isn't really as dramatic as steroids

 

[pa1ad]

I come from a family of pro football players so I know about professional sports. My uncle was a d back and my father was a full back and can barely play golf with out pain now. but that was his choice that he made after college (who wouldn't have ! ).

The question is at what price are you willing to pay? To excel now and by burned out, possibly seriously injured later on in your 20's and 30's. and spend the rest of your life on the couch as a spectator?

I loved sports all through school and was fortunate to be a natural athlete. I saw friends take roids for football in high school, sure they kicked ass then when they got to college they blew because they had no real athletic abilities.

It’s your call, but you will find out in life not to many "good" things come quick or easy that are worthwhile or long lasting.

Good luck with whatever decision you make!

Listen to him, he is correct. Do steroids now and you will peak early and possibly blow what your ultimate potential will be in later years. But hell, if being the high school star is all that matters in your life then go for it. There is a hell of alot of years after high school though, and by the time you are 30 no one will give a shit that you were the all state fullback of 2002

 

[thx9000]

Listen to him, he is correct. Do steroids now and you will peak early and possibly blow what your ultimate potential will be in later years. But hell, if being the high school star is all that matters in your life then go for it. There is a hell of alot of years after high school though, and by the time you are 30 no one will give a shit that you were the all state fullback of 2002

In fact, by the time you are 20 people won't give a shit what you did in HS...

 

[Mike P.T.]

if you are ready for prohormones, then you are ready for steroids bro. either way they are all hormones. but at least with steroids its a sure thing and u dont have to worry about will your prohormone convert into what its supposed to

 

[promet1]

Sounds like a get big quick dream....At 16 you have plenty of natural test in your system.....Diet and hard work is all you need.
I don't know you Bro but most 16 year olds don't eat a proper diet to grow ! Good luck ,spend your money on chicken and tuna

 

[69Muscle]

I work out with a kid that's 19 and he doesn't eat right and parties. However that kid adds 10 lbs on his bench for the last 5 weeks! He's 145lbs and is benching 185 max right now. It's amazing, young kids don't need roids or 1-Test to get gains. Just train right.

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

Bro,no matter what any of us say,your gonna do them anyways right?

I used steroids when I was 17, I wonder what I may look like if I didnt use them. Maybe a couple inches taller,and bones a bit thicker. It's your choice. But before you use,just research and weigh the pro's and con's.

 

[Distortion]

Bro,no matter what any of us say,your gonna do them anyways right?

no, thats why i posted this

 

[Baddogg]

maybe i could be ur guinie pig.. no i'm kidding.

i dont mean this in a negative way but u guys kinda seem oblivious to the shit that people my age use. Supplement companies target us to buy anything they can think of. Also tons of athleates rely on steroids. I have friends that pop DHEA pills like vitamins.

I agree with most of your statements and i know this isn't probably the best thing i can do right now. But just because i'm young doesn't mean i'm dumb about these things. I really need to take this one step further

DHEA sucks!.....just kidding...

 

[Punschkrapfen]

what about Anavar? it doesn't affect growth in teens and should give some mass and strength gains.

 

[Baddogg]

I think HGH is for teens also..