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I shifted from Tren Ace to Tren E and lost libido! Why?

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I’ve been on Tren Ace for 8 weeks. Tren Ace only. 100 mg EOD. Supplier ran out of Ace and I said OK, give me Enanthat, whatever. It’s the same but slower.
But it doesn’t work the same. I’ve been losing some much hair while on Tren Ace, now I’m fine. And while on Ace, I had libido like I could laid down any woman walking. Now my libido is diminishing. WHY?


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vexotex said:
I’ve been on Tren Ace for 8 weeks. Tren Ace only. 100 mg EOD. Supplier ran out of Ace and I said OK, give me Enanthat, whatever. It’s the same but slower.
But it doesn’t work the same. I’ve been losing some much hair while on Tren Ace, now I’m fine. And while on Ace, I had libido like I could laid down any woman walking. Now my libido is diminishing. WHY?


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are you taking caber or prami for prolactin? ar eyou using an ai??
 
It's been 8 weeks it's a sign you need to lay off the tren...tren is very toxic.

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its not the toxicity causing him to lose libido... its likely a lack of proper ancillaries causing him the problem... tren is not methylated... it can hurt your bp and cholesterol but its not toxic like an oral but it is something that needs to be ran with extreme caution and have ALL the proper protectants which i assume are lacking
 
dylangemelli said:
its not the toxicity causing him to lose libido... its likely a lack of proper ancillaries causing him the problem... tren is not methylated... it can hurt your bp and cholesterol but its not toxic like an oral but it is something that needs to be ran with extreme caution and have ALL the proper protectants which i assume are lacking
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Tell that to my ALT that goes up every time I'm on tren. It's hard on the kidneys and liver. Ask any medical professional. Not to mention the havok on lipids and BP. Instead of trying to give this guy his answer a responsibile person would ask him why the hell he wabts to stay on tren.

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neona52 said:
Tell that to my ALT that goes up every time I'm on tren. It's hard on the kidneys and liver. Ask any medical professional. Not to mention the havok on lipids and BP. Instead of trying to give this guy his answer a responsibile person would ask him why the hell he wabts to stay on tren.

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LOL my friend, im trying to figure out what he's taking, if hes protecting himself properly.. i have been doing this A LONG time.. i know how and what tren effects and i said, clearly it can effect many avenues on a blood panel but im trying to get to the route of the problem.. not just tell him to stop and not know what is causing him to lose his libido... you didnt even ask him if he was protecting himself properly... if he just stops, he will still have issues.. you didnt even attempt to get to the route of the issue... there's no need to attempt to throw stones and get nasty whatsoever... i never said for him to continue or to abuse it, come on... i preach using compounds moderate and light and take a hit for it from everyone out there... thats what i teach people but one needs to know what he is using to protect himself to assess the problem.. not everyone has the same experience with it as you do...
 
Since he said he was on tren ace only my guess is it shut him down over the course of 8 weeks. His test levels are nil. That combined with the 19nor made his dick stop working. He could add some test and hopefully it will come back? Sorry if I came off like a douche it's not my intention. It's just frustrating to see people use substances like tren irresponsibily. I don't think prami or Caber will bring him back will it?

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neona52 said:
Since he said he was on tren ace only my guess is it shut him down over the course of 8 weeks. His test levels are nil. That combined with the 19nor made his dick stop working. He could add some test and hopefully it will come back? Sorry if I came off like a douche it's not my intention. It's just frustrating to see people use substances like tren irresponsibily. I don't think prami or Caber will bring him back will it?

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its cool man.. dont worry about it i FEEL THE SAME WAY you do... trust me... the issue here is LIKELY that he has not controlled prolactin and/or estrogen.. i dont know without more info but if your prolactin is not controlled, your libido is done, period, done... and then without controlling prolactin it also correlates to an estrogen problem... the main issue here is he was so vague on what he's using, his overall condition in terms of age/height/weight/body fat, his cycle history etc... when people dont provide us with enough info, we are stuck hypothesizing an answer and that just doesn't work in this game... if he is tanked like that, i am almost certain its prolactin/estrogen related... getting in the 8-12 week range with tren is more than enough though as well and it just takes a toll all around but for this PARTICULAR issue, caber or prami is likely whats needed and it will fix that issue but who knows, he could have other issues going on there to... when i recommend tren cycles you are COVERED in protectants and ancillaries but most people just dont care or they just dont know how to run it properly..
 
Hahaha, so many people concerned about me. Thanks guys.
I’ve been clean for exactly 6 months. On 01 Dec I started Tren Ace only. A moderate dose of 100mg EOD. No any additional juice. I’m taking Dostinex 0.5 mg two times per week. I’m taking Arimidex 0.5mg EOD. My plan is 10 weeks. I’m not newbie here. Without any additional testosterone, I had libido like crazy until shifted to Tren E. I’m a sailor and just passed medical exam on Monday. With thorough blood research.
On Tren E I’ve stopped loosing hair and my libido is going down. I still have it but I’m not horny like a beast. So it seams that Tren E is less androgen than Tren Ace. Both are the same manufacturer. Tren E is not fake. I’m still getting bigger and bigger.


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I’m also taking a small dose of HCG just to keep my testicle size. And I’m taking HGH 3.3 IU per day.
Only thing that comes on my mind that can boost my libido is Proviron.


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Why so much arimidex? You said you're not on any test. The HCG doesn't warrant .5 eod

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vexotex said:
I’m also taking a small dose of HCG just to keep my testicle size. And I’m taking HGH 3.3 IU per day.
Only thing that comes on my mind that can boost my libido is Proviron.


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Also go with Masteron instead. Avoid orals where possible.

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I’m taking big dose of Milk Thistle so my ALT and AST are still within limit.
Yesterday I bought Tren Ace again and took first pin. This morning I feel libido is coming back. So, I was only one week on Tren E.
I think no any chemist or steroid expert can figure it out why Tren A and Tren E work different


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neona52 said:
Why so much arimidex? You said you're not on any test. The HCG doesn't warrant .5 eod

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What should I take to tackle Progesterone induced by Tren?


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vexotex said:
What should I take to tackle Progesterone induced by Tren?


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caber or prami...caber dose would only need to be .25 mg every 3 days with the dose you are running... there is no difference between tren e and tren ace aside from the ester bro.. i cannot explain why that happened but there is no difference between them other than the ester..
 
vexotex said:
Hahaha, so many people concerned about me. Thanks guys.
I’ve been clean for exactly 6 months. On 01 Dec I started Tren Ace only. A moderate dose of 100mg EOD. No any additional juice. I’m taking Dostinex 0.5 mg two times per week. I’m taking Arimidex 0.5mg EOD. My plan is 10 weeks. I’m not newbie here. Without any additional testosterone, I had libido like crazy until shifted to Tren E. I’m a sailor and just passed medical exam on Monday. With thorough blood research.
On Tren E I’ve stopped loosing hair and my libido is going down. I still have it but I’m not horny like a beast. So it seams that Tren E is less androgen than Tren Ace. Both are the same manufacturer. Tren E is not fake. I’m still getting bigger and bigger.


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So is there a reason why you can't go back to the first form?
 
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So is there a reason why you can't go back to the first form?
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I’m taking Caber. That is Dostinex or Cabaser. That’s for Prolactin. And for Progesterone is Arimidex. Same like for estrogen.
Yesterday I managed to buy Tren Ace again. I hope a libido will come back.
If not than I will take some Proviron to lower SHBG. I’m afraid of pure DHT because of increasing hair loss


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vexotex said:
. And for Progesterone is Arimidex. Same like for estrogen.

If not than I will take some Proviron to lower SHBG. I’m afraid of pure DHT because of increasing hair loss


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Can someone chime in but arimidex for progesterone? I don't think the OP understands the connection progesterone and estrogen.. especially on a tren only cycle. I may be mistaken. Can you tell me because again why you're not taking a ml of test with it? The HCG is probably producing negligible amounts of test.

I'm going to step out and learn on this thread. My opinion is that your cycle is a mess and adding more compounds is not the answer. Without posting your bloods I have no clue. The lowering effect of the SHBG Is negligible. But to what effect if there is no test? What are your test levels at? You need test for many body functions. You decided to do a tren only cycle...my head hurts so I'll step back. My advice is unless you plan on cruising do get some more HCG do a good PCT and plan your shit better. Being a dumpster isn't the answer

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libido is affected by so many things

yes a rise in prolactin will hurt libido, but tren for just 8 weeks isn't likely to cause such a huge difference

i blame the libido issues more on organ strain. when your heart health goes down the drain libido and blood flow will suffer. that is why people who are in bad shape have shitty sex drive both men and women

i simply think either way you have ran tren to its limit and it is time to come off. my view on tren is run it conservative and stop it EARLY. it is like the Barry Sanders of steroids. when you have it working it is unstoppable but it is better to retire too early then keep going or you will end up like Muhammad Ali and wreck yourself

so stop using it.. go into pct and run your n2guard .. you will feel better
 
stevesmi said:
libido is affected by so many things

yes a rise in prolactin will hurt libido, but tren for just 8 weeks isn't likely to cause such a huge difference

i blame the libido issues more on organ strain. when your heart health goes down the drain libido and blood flow will suffer. that is why people who are in bad shape have shitty sex drive both men and women

i simply think either way you have ran tren to its limit and it is time to come off. my view on tren is run it conservative and stop it EARLY. it is like the Barry Sanders of steroids. when you have it working it is unstoppable but it is better to retire too early then keep going or you will end up like Muhammad Ali and wreck yourself

so stop using it.. go into pct and run your n2guard .. you will feel better
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I managed to buy Tren Ace yesterday. I took one pin yesterday and my libido is back again. I will finish cycle after one week. That’s it.
This was my first cycle ever without test and I’m so surprised that I don’t even need it. I don’t have acne, I don’t have elevated blood pressure, I’m horny like a beast.
Stevesmi advised me that I can do cycle on Tren without Test so I tried.


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neona52 said:
Can someone chime in but arimidex for progesterone? I don't think the OP understands the connection progesterone and estrogen.. especially on a tren only cycle. I may be mistaken. Can you tell me because again why you're not taking a ml of test with it? The HCG is probably producing negligible amounts of test.

I'm going to step out and learn on this thread. My opinion is that your cycle is a mess and adding more compounds is not the answer. Without posting your bloods I have no clue. The lowering effect of the SHBG Is negligible. But to what effect if there is no test? What are your test levels at? You need test for many body functions. You decided to do a tren only cycle...my head hurts so I'll step back. My advice is unless you plan on cruising do get some more HCG do a good PCT and plan your shit better. Being a dumpster isn't the answer

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stevesmi said:
"the body can't function without testosterone"

I guess I should be dead cause 5 out of the past 6 cycles I have run have had zero testosterone in them.

the myth that you need 'test as a base' started circulating in the late 90's/early 2000's by some online guru's. before that guys rarely even used test in their cycles.

you can easily run tren alone with no problems. in fact I have done it many times. it is 5x more androgenic than test in the first place.
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neona52 said:
Can someone chime in but arimidex for progesterone? I don't think the OP understands the connection progesterone and estrogen.. especially on a tren only cycle. I may be mistaken. Can you tell me because again why you're not taking a ml of test with it? The HCG is probably producing negligible amounts of test.

I'm going to step out and learn on this thread. My opinion is that your cycle is a mess and adding more compounds is not the answer. Without posting your bloods I have no clue. The lowering effect of the SHBG Is negligible. But to what effect if there is no test? What are your test levels at? You need test for many body functions. You decided to do a tren only cycle...my head hurts so I'll step back. My advice is unless you plan on cruising do get some more HCG do a good PCT and plan your shit better. Being a dumpster isn't the answer

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MasonicBodybuilder said:
You’re incorrect. Your body does not need pure testosterone to function. It needs androgens. Tren is 5x more androgenic than test. You would just run tren solo. No test, no HCG. Don’t believe the Bro-Science.
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vexotex said:
NEONA52 Have you learned something before teaching people?


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I'll say it again. You're cycle is bullshit and completely unnecessary. Can you run a cycle with no test? Sure can. You can also run 10g of tren too. The reason why you don't do that us because life wouldn't be smooth. As yours isn't in this moment. Let me remind you that, you, a grown adult are online consulting individuals mostly with little to no medical background about your dick not working. Things aren't smooth in your life right now and really you can't even rub one out to feel better. So, be grateful that I am taking time out of my busy day to help you and your non functioning manhood. And next time before you try to call me out stop and look inwards and ask yourself if this is all worth it. I'm going to go back to bed and maybe throw it to my old lately mostly because I can. I'll speak again from experience. A trt dose of test makes things smoother.

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The last time I ran tren was tren A and I fucking hated it. Even at a lower dose the sides were too much. With tren E I never had any issues. Just shows that everyone is different.
 
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The last time I ran tren was tren A and I fucking hated it. Even at a lower dose the sides were too much. With tren E I never had any issues. Just shows that everyone is different.
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I've never been able to run tren for longer than 8 weeks. The insomnia is too much. 100mg EOD and Im up at 2am wired. I don't think I'll run it again. Unless I was competing I really don't think there is any need for tren. It's hard and it's toxic. Does it work? It does. So do other compounds as well. From now on for me. Test/mast is the way to go. That's specific to my goals. I'm 6'2 240lbs and really lean. I don't need to get bigger. Besides only dudes check you out with mass like that.

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MasonicBodybuilder said:
The last time I ran tren was tren A and I fucking hated it. Even at a lower dose the sides were too much. With tren E I never had any issues. Just shows that everyone is different.
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See, I’m opposite. And I also wake at 5,6 o’clock completely awake. And I have night sweating.
I started with 100 mg of Test Propionate but I have chronic irritable bowel syndrome and I felt pain in my bowel and got constipation and when discarded Test I felt good.
That’s why I took Tren only this time.


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neona52 said:
I'll say it again. You're cycle is bullshit and completely unnecessary. Can you run a cycle with no test? Sure can. You can also run 10g of tren too. The reason why you don't do that us because life wouldn't be smooth. As yours isn't in this moment. Let me remind you that, you, a grown adult are online consulting individuals mostly with little to no medical background about your dick not working. Things aren't smooth in your life right now and really you can't even rub one out to feel better. So, be grateful that I am taking time out of my busy day to help you and your non functioning manhood. And next time before you try to call me out stop and look inwards and ask yourself if this is all worth it. I'm going to go back to bed and maybe throw it to my old lately mostly because I can. I'll speak again from experience. A trt dose of test makes things smoother.

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Thank you for spending your time to help me. Sorry


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I've never been able to run tren for longer than 8 weeks. The insomnia is too much. 100mg EOD and Im up at 2am wired. I don't think I'll run it again. Unless I was competing I really don't think there is any need for tren. It's hard and it's toxic. Does it work? It does. So do other compounds as well. From now on for me. Test/mast is the way to go. That's specific to my goals. I'm 6'2 240lbs and really lean. I don't need to get bigger. Besides only dudes check you out with mass like that.

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I did that cycle you are saying in 2015. That’s the best recipe for sex. But I am naturally narrow and light and I need more mass


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vexotex said:
I did that cycle you are saying in 2015. That’s the best recipe for sex. But I am naturally narrow and light and I need more mass


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Hear me out, again I'm sorry for being a dick earlier. Slow and steady gains are the most sustainable. My belief is the quicker you gain it the quicker you'll lose it. Most of the compounds that blow you up fast won't last in the long run. Tren obviously is an exception because it's pretty much the holy Grail of steroids. The risks are too many though and most people can achieve their needs without it. Strict diet for example. You want to be in this for the long run? Treat it like a marathon not a race. I know this is off topic but try and hear me out.



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Thanks bro. I will stick with Boldenon + Test or Deca + Test.
I’ve never lost libido with these. In 2014 I took Tren and Test and lost it also despite taking Test.


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vexotex said:
I’m also taking a small dose of HCG just to keep my testicle size. And I’m taking HGH 3.3 IU per day.
Only thing that comes on my mind that can boost my libido is Proviron.


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masterone in my experience also. but yeah prov. and the dostinex.


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vexotex said:
Thanks bro. I will stick with Boldenon + Test or Deca + Test.
I’ve never lost libido with these. In 2014 I took Tren and Test and lost it also despite taking Test.


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Personally I would rock with Deca + Test. Great gains to be had and your joints are going to feel great on cycle.
 
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