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I never feel my back working, when doing deads anybody got....?

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akaba

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hey!! yea i never feel my back being worked when i do deadlifts...mabey im doing it wrong..if so does anyone have any pointers or tips of how to make a deadlift most effective??? or even a video or sumpin...thnx
 
Maybe it's your body structure. I have pretty long arms, so I never feel it in my legs, but I always feel it in my lower back and lats.
 
which part of ur back? lower, middle, or lats?

i feel it in my lower, middle, and hams the most.. but the next day
my traps and lats are sore as hell. so i dunno..:confused:
 
What kind of weight are you pulling?

I used to not feel a thing untill I started loading on the weight and did sets of 5-6 reps max.

-Ingram
 
How long have you been doing them? I didn't really "feel" them in my back until I'd done them for some time and got good form down.
 
Dead lifts are NOT the ideal choice of excersises for back to begin with. Barbell rows or Dbl rows are more direct movements to target that area. I think deads are overrated. I have been training for 15 years and the only time I did deads were the first 2.
 
punch said:
Dead lifts are NOT the ideal choice of excersises for back to begin with. Barbell rows or Dbl rows are more direct movements to target that area. I think deads are overrated. I have been training for 15 years and the only time I did deads were the first 2.
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Blastphmy!!!!

Deads are core lift... but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

BTW... I think sunlight is overrated for plant growth. :)

C-ditty
 
When I do deads, I stay with 315 for 15-20 reps. I too think they are overrated.

Of course, back being my best bodypart... what can you take from my advice? I got my sick V taper from all the years of swimming I did. Swim training was mostly pullups.

But when it came time to add thickness, I got my best results from modified cleans (lowering the bar only to mid thigh, bent over rows and seated cable rows
 
AAP said:
When I do deads, I stay with 315 for 15-20 reps. I too think they are overrated.
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Holy shit!!! There are a whole slew of non-believers!!! PH, BFOLD, SPATTS..... get the rope. :)

C-ditty
 
Was that impressive? Keep in mind, I don't do full deadlifts... I only do partials. About knee height upwards.
 
AAP said:
Was that impressive? Keep in mind, I don't do full deadlifts... I only do partials. About knee height upwards.
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I think anything over 300lbs for more than 15 reps is impressive.

I'm talking about your statement regarding the fact that deadlifts are over-rated. That's just nuts :)

C-ditty
 
Not at all... for growth, I think you can benefit from deads... however, lower back growth - I don't want. I want thickness and tightness and a small waist. I have had on problems putting on quality size with hypers, and reverse crunches...

I think deads give you a fat ass.
 
AAP said:
Not at all... for growth, I think you can benefit from deads... however, lower back growth - I don't want. I want thickness and tightness and a small waist. I have had on problems putting on quality size with hypers, and reverse crunches...

I think deads give you a fat ass.
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Move your grip out wider... it will hit your lats more than your lower back. My ass is like a big bubble... it isn't wide... I have small hips (sprinter hips)... so my ass will just grow backward, not from side to side.

I keep my grip out wider... it seems to blast my lats and upper back more than my lower back... but my lower back is STILL hit... just not concentrated.

C-ditty
 
Can you post a pic of your ass? Sounds like ghetto booty.
 
AAP said:
Can you post a pic of your ass? Sounds like ghetto booty.
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I have pictures of my ass... it is not a ghetto booty... lol ... but I'd say it is a bubble butt... kind of like a sprinters ass...

C-ditty
 
Deadlifts are DEFINITELY a core exercise. Think about it, you're whole body has to work to move the weight. If you're not feeling it in your lower back, it could be form. Remember to keep your back straight, and don't move your ass backwards like I see so many people do when lowering the weight. When you lowever the weight, bend your knees slightly but keep yourself in a straight vertical line, don't sway.

FD
 
I think some people say "DEADLIFT" when they mean to say "ROMANIAN DEADLIFT." There is no "lowering" a deadlift. It's concentric.

I might have to make this a soap box sticky too...
 
C-Ditty, join the perky-ass club! You could pitch a tent on mine :D I haven't been squatting and deadlifting for very long, so I guess I'm just naturally blessed/cursed with it.
 
If you don't like deadlifts, then I don't like you! :mad:


LOL :D

And yes, I have a ghetto booty, and I'm very proud of it. And no, I won't post picks of my ass. ;)
 
spatts said:
I think some people say "DEADLIFT" when they mean to say "ROMANIAN DEADLIFT." There is no "lowering" a deadlift. It's concentric.

I might have to make this a soap box sticky too...
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Q1 - What's a Romanian deadlift?

Q2 - What do you mean by "there is no lowering a deadlift?"

JoBu
 
I mean that a deadlift is just that...pick the weight up off the floor. Even if you rep it out, you can just drop it, reset, and lift again. Generally when people talk about lowering it with control and the ass not coming back, they're talking about ROMANIAN deadlifts which are the exact opposite of deadlifts. You start standing up, and bend over, the come back up...usually for reps. There is a very distinct, controlled, concentric and eccentric phase. In my opinion, they are far more "dangerous" than a true deadlift, for no other reason than it's harder to maintain the form that prevents the move from being dangerous in the first place.
 
I could see where akaba and punch are coming from. The thing about deadlift, is that the only muscles that AREN'T exercised isometrically are the legs and ass. If you're looking to build a powerful upper back, deadlift wouldn't be the way to go since they include no eccentric motion for those muscles. Deadlifting is about strengthening the spinal erectors, and generally beefing up the posterior chain.

The spinal erector is a funny muscle: it's almost impossible to exercise without putting nasty torque on the vertebrae. Seems like Spatts is a testament to the erector-building power of the deadlift though.

I could be entirely wrong though, seeing as the only deadlift I ever did was to get an abandoned 135-lb barbell off the ground onto the power rack pins. So please correct me if that's the case. :P

-casualbb
 
exactly CASUALBB!! Squats are an overall movement as well but you will NOT get a big back doing them. Lats or more specifically the upper back region needs direct stimulous to grow bigger, ie. bent over rows, wieghted pull ups, T-bar etc. I think we are confusing powerlifting and body sculpting again.
 
I never thought deads did much for the upper back to begin with...especially since powerlifters don't shrug the bar back to complete the movement.

Maybe I'm not getting casualbb's point...
 
punch said:
exactly CASUALBB!! Squats are an overall movement as well but you will NOT get a big back doing them. Lats or more specifically the upper back region needs direct stimulous to grow bigger, ie. bent over rows, wieghted pull ups, T-bar etc. I think we are confusing powerlifting and body sculpting again.
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I disagree. I know you can build overall body mass with squats. Everything grows.
 
Too much science. I don't even know what the hell isometrically means. Just squat and deadlift, for crying out loud. You'll get huge, bottom line. :bday:
 
Maybe I'm not getting casualbb's point...
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My point is just that people may have the wrong expectations when they deadlift. It's not the end-all of back exercises, and bb's will need to add other stuff to add upper back size.

Slobberknocker: isometrically means the muscle stays the same length. It'd be like if you just had a bicep curl position and didn't move.

-casualbb
 
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