I need PCT help after 13 month cycle

[Pman2012]

I have been under advice from my trainer who was also my supplier but I now I wish I had done more research. I came off about 3 months ago, did 5000 iu of HCG occasionally during cycle, about once every 2 months during the last 6 months, then again when I quit and again a week later. I also took clomid for about a month.
I went to a doctor and got my Test levels tested and I was at 191 on a scale that goes up to 800 I believe and on my own, the highest I was naturally 6 years ago was 550, and I'm currently almost 44 yrs old. I just went in for a blood test again yesterday and should have results by Friday or Monday at the latest. I went to my doc and a urologist and was honest about what I did and both have no solution other than to wait it out. I have zero sex drive, serious ED and Cialis and Levitra does almost absolutely nothing.
I'm going to go see and endocrinologist this afternoon, but I've been told by another body builder that no doctor will prescribe HCG as it has not been proven in clinical trials to actually do anything. Both of the other docs said they consulted with an endocrinologist about my situation and both say to just let my body bounce back naturally. My poor GF (a 21 year old hottie) doesn't know that I was on juice, but does know that I have extremely low T. levels and is being patient, but I don't know how long that will last.
I'd like to cycle back on in January if I can just get my nuts working again first, and take a more regimented approach this time under advice by people [here] that are more in the know.

I have testicular atrophy, but I have regained some mass. I used to be the size of a small chicken egg and now they are about half as big, but they never actually went down to pea size like some people.

I was told by a body builder last night, that I need to get more HCG, start with 2 days of clomid, take 1500 IU of HCG 3 days apart for 10 days and end with two more days of clomid.

I was also told by him that in the future if I use only prop. Test. that I won't have these problems coming off.

I've seen a lot of advice on here and am not quite sure what is right for my situation, but I'm depressed and anxious to get back to normal. I work out with weights 3 day and do cardio in between each day, so 5 days total. I've not lost very many gains and am actually still losing weight....I look thin, but have at least 5 more lbs to lose before my abs start showing up.

Please help!

Also, my only experience with HCG has been when it came in a powder form in a little sealed glass container where I had to break the glass, add sterilized water and then injected it into my belly with a small insulin needle. There was no writing on it that indicated how many IUs I was taking, so I'm assuming it was 5000. Is this the way HCG generally comes packaged ? How much water was I supposed to add and if I have any left over, where am I supposed to store it...in the syringe?
Please excuse my ignorance and thanks ahead of time for any advice and help.

 

[gymrat827]

well the endo will hopefully will have more info for us to help you.

How many mg's a wk of test were you on?? any other AAS (winny, tren ,etc??) you will prolly need to use low amounts of hcg (250IU) and some clomid/nolva. both of the serms will need to be dosed high to spark LH/FSH. Going back on in Jan isnt the best idea..... you need to workout these problems and get yourself healthy first. Than you could consider HRT/TRT which means you ll be on for life. TRT doses are around 50-125mg a wk, you were prolly taking 400-750mg a wk (just a guess)


You need to educate yourself on anabolics in the mean time. If your using gear you should know what your injecting your body with. Im not going to tell you your an idiot or dumb, you already know that all we can do now is try to fix your problems and educate you.

 

[Pman2012]

For most of the cycle I was taking 1cc of test stacked with another 1cc of tren. or EQ. every week. Towards the end I was doing this twice a week. I dont know what that comes out to in mg. because I was just told by my trainer to fill the syringe up to the first line or #1 on my syringe with test. and to add an equal amount of tren or whatever else I was stacking. The last 2 months were test. and EQ. The endo said there is nothing to do but wait. Will have newest lab results this afternoon.

 

[Pman2012]

I just got my latest testosterone results I'm down to 110. things are getting worse not better. I'm getting hcg tonight..5( bucks each...is that generally 5000 IU?

 

[Raylor]

Try lower doses of hCG every other day preferably at the same time of day for 2 weeks, then immediately do 100mg of Clomid, 50mg twice a day for 30 days while simultaneously doing Tamoxifen 20mg for 45 days starting the same time as Clomid but continuing on for an additional 15 days. Then get tested again. You might need to repeat a couple of times to kick start the HPTA function. Good luck, thoughts are with you.

 

[joeblow12345]

I would also advise you to fire the trainer he obviously doesnt have a clue as to what hes doing. You should have never been on that long. Juice needs to be cycled to ensure you stay healthy and fully recover. I would advise you not to start back up in jan, but to wait until you recover fully. Then plan out a sensible cycle with a good pct. Dont listen to half assed trainers who only care about your money and not your best interest.

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