I can only run an 8 week cycle. Need some advice

[stocktrainer]

Hi,

I am about to begin my next cycle but I have a holiday planned for 2 weeks in June. I know its ideal to run 10-12weeks at a minimum but I have run a shorter cycle before and seen good results from it. I also want to get a cycle in before my holiday as I am also doing a photo shoot during this time so want to put on some size but keep my cuts. I believe stacking t400 with anavar will do this and I won't get the bloated look from the t400 due to water retention. Correct me if I am wrong with my expectations. I am thinking of doing t400 or test e with anavar. If anyone has run test e/anavar or t400/anavar I would really appreciate your feedback on how this worked for you.

Heres how my cycle will look:
wk 1-8: t400 or test e ( 1ml twice a week).
wk 1-8: Anavar 40mg ED
wk 8-10: Traveling
wk 10-13 : PCT - Clomid and Nolva

I am also debating on whether to run hcg on this cycle ( given its only 8wks) to help prevent testicular atrophy and speed up recovery? If I were to run hcg on this cycle, at what point in the cycle should I start and in what dosages? I don't want to shut off estrogen production completely because as we know we need a healthy balance of estrogen to see good lean muscle gains.

For PCT I will be running clomid and nolva but again given I am only going to be on cycle for 8 weeks how soon should I start pct and what dose protocol of clomid and nova should I be taking. My stats: 32yrs, 6.1, 206lbs, bf 13%

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Elijah V]

1-8: Test E 500ml / 250ml twice a week
1-8: Anavar 50mg ED
1-8: Arimidex 0.5mg EOD or Aromasin 25mg EOD
1-8: hCG 500iu / 250iu twice a week
10-14: PCT - Clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

Why 25mg Aromasin? There is research 12.5 vs 25mg, if interested, research it.

May I ask why Anavar? If you're after a fat loss protocol there are many factors to consider rather than a Test/Var stack. You're already quite lean, Anavar might not be your best solution, atleast not with that cycle.

 

[Unlv12]

I am about the same build and like that cycle what would you replace the anavar with

 

[Redam]

I would run prop instead of T400 personally. The pip is painful with the T400.

As for pct:

Clomid, 50/50/25/25
Nolva, 40/40/20/20
Liquidex, 2ml/day
HCGenerate
Ostarine 25mg/day
Unleashed
D-AA

 

[Elijah V]

HCGenerate and Unleashed aren't part of a staple PCT nor mandatory, if you're into natural test boosters you can find greater products than those sponsored items being recommended for every.single.cycle.on.this.board.
There's a reason they're only recommended on this board, and this board alone.

 

[Elijah V]

I am about the same build and like that cycle what would you replace the anavar with

Create a thread with your stats/experience, you'll get a critique.

 

[stocktrainer]

1-8: Test E 500ml / 250ml twice a week
1-8: Anavar 50mg ED
1-8: Arimidex 0.5mg EOD or Aromasin 25mg EOD
1-8: hCG 500iu / 250iu twice a week
10-14: PCT - Clomid 100/50/50/50 Nolvadex 40/20/20/20

Why 25mg Aromasin? There is research 12.5 vs 25mg, if interested, research it.

May I ask why Anavar? If you're after a fat loss protocol there are many factors to consider rather than a Test/Var stack. You're already quite lean, Anavar might not be your best solution, atleast not with that cycle.

Thanks for this feedback. I am going to be upping my calories and carb intake and I don't want to get that bloated look so I wanted to include anavar in the stack to keep me cut. I guess the arimedex will prevent water retention right which is half the battle? If you were me what would you replace the anavar with? I want to keep bf low and put on some good lean muscle.

 

[Elijah V]

I need way more information to even begin constructing a cycle for you.

What are your goals? Bulking, cutting, lean bulking?
This is assuming your diet is in check, so we'll cut to the chase and assume.

 

[Redam]

HCGenerate and Unleashed aren't part of a staple PCT nor mandatory, if you're into natural test boosters you can find greater products than those sponsored items being recommended for every.single.cycle.on.this.board.
There's a reason they're only recommended on this board, and this board alone.

I didn't say it was a staple nor do I rep them. It's just what I perfer. There was deals on them a few weeks ago and people stocked up. You get people advice on what THEY do. Everyone is different bud

 

[Elijah V]

I didn't say it was a staple nor do I rep them. It's just what I perfer. There was deals on them a few ago and people stocked up. You get people la advice on what THEY do. Everyone is different bud

My post was to the OP regarding those products, it wasn't aimed at your message, well atleast not directly lol, just letting him know they are not mandatory in-case he categorises the importance of Clomid with Unleashed

Sorry if you felt attacked

 

[Redam]

My post was to the OP regarding those products, it wasn't aimed at your message, well atleast not directly lol, just letting him know they are not mandatory in-case he categorises the importance of Clomid with Unleashed

Sorry if you felt attacked

No worries bud, I took it the wrong way! Lol

 

[25homes]

I would run prop instead of T400 personally. The pip is painful with the T400.

As for pct:

Clomid, 50/50/25/25
Nolva, 40/40/20/20
Liquidex, 2ml/day
HCGenerate
Ostarine 25mg/day
Unleashed
D-AA

That depends what t 400 it is and what prop.. Last t 400 I used was completely painless..old t 400 hurry bad but was due to high ba and bb content which isn't used much anymore

 

[stocktrainer]

I need way more information to even begin constructing a cycle for you.

What are your goals? Bulking, cutting, lean bulking?
This is assuming your diet is in check, so we'll cut to the chase and assume.

I am looking for lean bulking. I follow a really clean diet. I tend to cycle my proteins and carbs. I only ever eat my carbs post WO.


I have been intermittent fasting while off cycle. last meal 8pm next meal noon the following day to keep my natural GH levels up during the morning:

Noon - First meal of the day ( 6oz chic breast with veg and 1tbs olive oil),
2pm - 2nd meal same as first meal)...
4-5pm GYM
5.30pm PWO meal/3rd meal ( egg whites & 1 cup quinoa) straight after training...
7-8pm 4th meal ( 2 x chick breast plus 3 cups quinoa with veg).
9pm -5 dates before bed to spike insulin
10PM - 2ui's of GH

I change up my protein and carb sources each day and I will have one day a week where I cut all protein out to given my kidneys a rest. I will only consume carbs that day

Would you follow this diet while on cycle?

 

[Elijah V]

What you eat is irrelevant, I can't calculate all of that. Alright look.

1. Find out what your TDEE is
2. Work out your daily macro-nutrient requirements (protein/carb/fat)
3. Design yourself a meal plan use your macro nutrients, this ensures you are getting the correct amount of protein, carbs and fats and reduces the risk of under or over eating. These are the fundamentals of dieting. Simple.
4. Without the above, you will make some gains and lose all of it faster than it took you to gain using aas.

 

[stocktrainer]

That depends what t 400 it is and what prop.. Last t 400 I used was completely painless..old t 400 hurry bad but was due to high ba and bb content which isn't used much anymore

I use t400 from Life Sciences and no pain at all. Has anyone used Life Sciences before?

 

[bonacris]

I use t400 from Life Sciences and no pain at all. Has anyone used Life Sciences before?

Unigen life sciences?

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[stocktrainer]

What you eat is irrelevant, I can't calculate all of that. Alright look.

1. Find out what your TDEE is
2. Work out your daily macro-nutrient requirements (protein/carb/fat)
3. Design yourself a meal plan use your macro nutrients, this ensures you are getting the correct amount of protein, carbs and fats and reduces the risk of under or over eating. These are the fundamentals of dieting. Simple.
4. Without the above, you will make some gains and lose all of it faster than it took you to gain using aas.

Thanks Elijah. I have my TDEE and my macros are in check to support lean bulking. I would like to see a gain of 5 lbs in lean muscle by the 8 wk mark keeping my bf around the 12-13% mark. Would the cycle protocol you mentioned above remain the same given these goals.

Thanks Buddy. Appreciate all your feedback.

 

[Elijah V]

Thanks Elijah. I have my TDEE and my macros are in check to support lean bulking. I would like to see a gain of 5 lbs in lean muscle by the 8 wk mark keeping my bf around the 12-13% mark. Would the cycle protocol you mentioned above remain the same given these goals.

Thanks Buddy. Appreciate all your feedback.

- Week 1 to 10: Anavar @ 50 mg ED
- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

Post Cycle Therapy should consist of both Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid).

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20


Your diet is very important and is the key factor in making or breaking this cycle and your desired goals.

 

[stocktrainer]

Unigen life sciences?

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Just life sciences. lifesciencescorp.ca

Have you heard of them?

 

[stocktrainer]

- Week 1 to 10: Anavar @ 50 mg ED
- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

Post Cycle Therapy should consist of both Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid).

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20


Your diet is very important and is the key factor in making or breaking this cycle and your desired goals.

Thanks Elijah. As mentioned previously I am only able to run this cycle for 8 weeks. I know its not optimal but I have no choice and would like to put on some lean bulk for my photo shoot and holiday in June.

Would you change anything in the protocol you mentioned knowing I will only be running for 8 wks? Thanks again.

 

[bonacris]

Just life sciences. lifesciencescorp.ca

Have you heard of them?

Never heard of them.. also just edit the post so there is not link

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[stocktrainer]

- Week 1 to 10: Anavar @ 50 mg ED
- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

Post Cycle Therapy should consist of both Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) and Clomiphene (Clomid).

Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 & Nolvadex @ 40/20/20/20


Your diet is very important and is the key factor in making or breaking this cycle and your desired goals.

HI Elijah - You mention taking 0.25mg of arimidex. Is that liquid arimidex? I have tablets on hand and each tab is 1mg. I guess i can split 1 tab into 4 but they are really tiny so its going to be difficult to slip equally. Is there a better way to do this?