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"the only negative about fina for me is it raises my body temp a ton and i am sweating all the time."
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Fuckin A right, I run HOT as a Mo Fo on tren, I fuckin drip all day and have to keep a fan on all night, I mean blowin right on me, drives my old lady nuts...
But it is unsurpassed in overall effectiveness IMO, "strong , vascular , and lean w/quality gains", all be it rather slow for the gains in my case they do come and they are steady and lucky for me no sides except trouble w/ sleep, but Pseven solved that,
Tren (fina) is IMO most effective in the overall, and depending on your goals , will stack w/anything...