How's this look?

[GonnaGetCutUp]

I just got my gear and I am about to start. Just wanted to see what everyone thought of the cycle and if there was anything I should add or change.

This is my 2nd cycle and I am currently 195 lbs. and 10% bf. Been working out for 7 years hardcore.

Ok from what everyone is saying i think i am def. gonna switch a few things. Gonna keep the nolva and drop the clomid b/c im taking the HCG. Also gonna switch the arimidix to aromasin b.c i have some instead of getting the AIFM. Gonna also have to start the Deca at 400mg/week and run it from week one.

So here is what the revised cycle will look like:

Week 1-15 -Test E @ 500 / week
Week 1-15 - EQ @ 400 / week
Week 1-13 - Deca @ 400 / week
Week 4-15 - HCG @ 500iu/week
Week 16-18 - HCG @ 1000iu every 3 days
Week 4-12 - aromasin @10 mg /day
Week 13-16 -aromasin @ 25 mg/day
Week 18-19- Nolva @ 40 mg/day
Week 20-21- Nolva @ 20 mg/day

Please let me know how it looks now?

Thanks,

 

[JohnnyWest]

Looks good except for a few things I would change.

run the deca from the beginning until week 14 along witht the eq from week 1 to 14 because the undecanoate ester is very long.

you can run the hcg like you have planned but don't do your clomid/nolva therapy along with the hcg because the hcg is supressive itself, just do that protocol after the hcg is done. Just run 50mg clomid and some armidex through the hcg and then start the actual pct. one more thing, I suggest you taper off the adex and prefferabley use a suicidal aromatase inhibitor like armoasin or aifm at the end to prevent an estro rebound once you're done.

 

[bca21]

What i would do since its a longer cycle, is cut the deca and raise the eq. Say 500mg test and 600mg eq. 600 seems to be the sweet spot for eq. And possibly add winny weeks 12-16

 

[krishna]

Start the deca at week 1.

 

[mikefear]

I just got my gear and I am about to start. Just wanted to see what everyone thought of the cycle and if there was anything I should add or change.

This is my 2nd cycle and I am currently 195 lbs. and 10% bf. Been working out for 7 years hardcore.

I am gonna do a 15 week cycle

Week 1-15 - Test @ 500 / week
Week 1-15 - EQ @ 400 / week
Week 4-13 - Deca @ 400 / week *Change to 1-15
Week 4-15 - HCG @ 500iu/week
Week 16-19 - HCG @ 1000iu every 3 days
Week 1-16 - Arimidex @ .5mg EOD *Change to AIFM, 2 pumps/day
Week 18 + 19 - Clomid @ 150mg/day *notice the Week change from 16-17 to 18+19
Week 20 + 21 - Clomid @ 100mg/day
Week 16-17 - Nolva @ 40mg/day *get rid of the Nolva if you insist on running Deca
Week 18-19 - Nolva @ 20 mg/day

Thanks,

Personally, I wouldnt wanna run deca for that long.. but that's just me. I'd rather run the test a little higher and the EQ a littler higher and drop the Deca all together.

Secondly, I'd throw tbol or dbol in for weeks 1-4, maybe 1-5 (since it seems you're seasoned with anabolics) and maybe some winny for the last few weeks. I wouldnt want to be waiting around for 3-4 weeks for something to start happening. Since it seems like you're running all long-esters; unless the test is prop?

Lastly, if you end up running the deca, ditch the Nolva for PCT. As macro has posted a billion and one times, if you happen to run into any prolactin induced gyno from the deca, Nolva will further exacerbate the problem by upregulating PgR and making the problem worse.

PCT:
hcg weeks 16-19 1000iu e3d
clomid as changed above
aifm 2-3 pumps/day

Remember, start the clomid 2 weeks AFTER your last shot.. if you're cycling the test/eq/deca weeks 1-15.. that means that the 16th and 17th week the esters are still kicking, the 18th is when they start to decline, so start your PCT there.

I see so many posts with, "i'm running blah for weeks 1-12 and starting pct week 13.." it should be week 15! ...

You're on weeks 1(ON) - 2(ON) - 3(ON) - 4(ON) - 5(ON) - 6(ON) - 7(ON) - 8(ON) - 9(ON) - 10(ON) - 11(ON) - 12(ON) - 13(OFF) - 14(OFF) - 15(PCT)..

 

[GonnaGetCutUp]

thanks

 

[mikefear]

Keep your deca @ 400, might as well get something out of it.

 

[letsrun4it]

start deca week 1...and then good to go

 

[Mr.X]

why run deca and EQ together? run one or the other.

Keep your aromasin at 25mgs ED.

PCT: HCG, Clomid/aromasin/nolva

 

[mikefear]

why run deca and EQ together? run one or the other.

Keep your aromasin at 25mgs ED.

PCT: HCG, Clomid/aromasin/nolva

Why not run them together? There's no reason not to.

 

[mikefear]

It´s not very common to compare Equipoise to testosterone; however& a far more common comparison is between Equipoise and Deca. I suspect this is because when Dan Duchaine introduced this compound to the steroid using community, he made an immediate comparison to Deca, speculating that it would act similarly to Deca but like a much stronger version of it. Equipoise doesn´t actually act much like deca at all; Deca is actually a progestin and a 19-nor derived steroid whereas Equipoise is more closely related to testosterone (being only one double bond differ rent). Duchaine later rescinded his original statement on Equipoise and said that it was disappointing as a mass builder when compared with deca, but a far better drug than for both strength gains and vascularity. Unfortunately, the myth that Equipoise´s action is similar to Deca´s has persisted for nearly 2 decades after he revised his opinion; this is most evident on internet message boards today, where many will advise against including both of them in a cycle because "they act the same way."

 

[solidspine]

Liquidex, or nolvadex, for anti-e’s

HCG and/or clomid PCT

I will keep my mouth shut about deca and eq, I think one is plenty, but I have been told I am incorrect and running them together is wonderful.

I recommend Test E for this cycle


And unless you have purchased the growth or have experienced excellent gains with growth, I would drop it.



Your going to see some very good strength increases, and size increases from this cycle.

If you basically run it similar to how you typed it.

 

[GonnaGetCutUp]

Even though both the deca and eq "do the same thing", why wouldn't I run both?

I have heard of some people getting great results with a similar cycle.

Thanks,