heatherrae said:Not that I'm condoning bestiality, because that is just completely vile, but I think it depends on the animal whether the animal is being abused or not. If you are talking about doing stuff to a male animal, they obviously enjoy it. They don't grow up and feel guilty about it or think about it beyond that moment, I would think. They just hunch and then go about their business.
It's still wrong, but I just don't think it is torturing a horse to finish them with your hand or whatever. I've seen trainers do that before horse shows so that the males would calm down and perform well in the ring. Gross, but true.
I asked my gal if I could bring in an old maid from another country to fondle my balls all day ( since I enjoy it so much).. She said no. (sad face)