How Much Protein Do I Need On Cycle?

[bigpimpin25]

I hear so many different numbers like 1g./lb. or 2g./lb and even up to 4g./lb during bulking cycles.......WHAT IS THE TRUTH!?? do certain steroids raise the amount of protein your body can use to build muscle? like trenbolone or testosterone?? please educate me on this i would appreciate the help

 

[bigpimpin25]

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[goku_kakarot77]

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1.5-2g per lb of body weight, all gear increase protein synthesis

 

[bigpimpin25]

1.5-2g per lb of body weight, all gear increase protein synthesis

so 440 grams (2g./lb) is not too much protein? that seems like an awful lot but hell i can do it.. should i chug water like the ocean is gonna dry up or what.? thats gotta be hard on the kidneys

 

[goku_kakarot77]

so 440 grams (2g./lb) is not too much protein? that seems like an awful lot but hell i can do it.. should i chug water like the ocean is gonna dry up or what.? thats gotta be hard on the kidneys

yup drink about 1.5-2gallons of h20, take some kidney supplments too ,

 

[bigpimpin25]

yup drink about 1.5-2gallons of h20, take some kidney supplments too ,

thanks for the advice bro .

 

[nzrodney]

Some people are more efficient at metabolising proteins, some better at carbs. So your body type might require more protein to increase mass or more carb. Its not so much as what grams per lb of body weight but more the % of protein/ carbs/fats that form part of your overall calorie intake. Somewhere to start is around 40% protein, 45% carbs, 15% good fats. Then if you are not responding in mass you can move up the proteins & reduce the carbs. Dont forget that carbs are still the BBers main source of energy. Sure you need a lot of protein for repair work esp on cycle, but carbs are the bodies first source of energy & there should be enough of them in the daily diet to cater for heavy training sessions. Its all about finding what works for you.

 

[splperformance]

i know for me i've always stuck with 2.5g of protein per pound and i weigh 235lbs...needless to say, besides all the chicken and steak i eat, i get to drink 3 protein shakes per day with 72g protein in each one lol...not the tastiest but i'll live...

 

[muscleup]

I always take in 1.5 grams of protein per lb, and drink a minimum of 1.5 gallons of water per day...Remember muscle is mainly Nitrogen{Protien} and Water retention...Muscles are 70% water.

Also make sure you are getting good low GI carbs as well as some healthy EFA's in there as well.

 

[enacer420nj]

1.5 is good.....4 grams/lb is bullshit your body wouldnt absorb it youd be shitting and farting it out like crazy

 

[flajice]

How much Protien can the body take in per meal? I remember hearing anything over 50g is a waste.

 

[big_daws]

1.5 is good.....4 grams/lb is bullshit your body wouldnt absorb it youd be shitting and farting it out like crazy

+1

 

[fast_lane]

I personnaly would tend more on the 1.5(if not 1 per pound)then 4g since i dont think,whats important is having so much at a time but more having it ALL the time(never missing any...)Any ways ur body is metabolising so litle at a time,dont remember the numbers buts its very very small amount even on roids.So i would recomand eating proteine alsmost all the time with a litle of carbs also never alone but in very small quantaties is the best.

 

[MasterBrewer]

Throw some T-3 in there and your good to go. I've always consumed 3 shakes 100g each a day plus food. Better to have to much than to little.

 

[kidd73]

Some people are more efficient at metabolising proteins, some better at carbs. So your body type might require more protein to increase mass or more carb. Its not so much as what grams per lb of body weight but more the % of protein/ carbs/fats that form part of your overall calorie intake. Somewhere to start is around 40% protein, 45% carbs, 15% good fats. Then if you are not responding in mass you can move up the proteins & reduce the carbs. Dont forget that carbs are still the BBers main source of energy. Sure you need a lot of protein for repair work esp on cycle, but carbs are the bodies first source of energy & there should be enough of them in the daily diet to cater for heavy training sessions. Its all about finding what works for you.

I wonder how the "Blood Type" issue effects protein synthesis. I'm not familiar with that diet, but many people I know swear by it.

 

[enacer420nj]

Throw some T-3 in there and your good to go. I've always consumed 3 shakes 100g each a day plus food. Better to have to much than to little.

Each shake you have is 100 grams of protein? That would be four scoops of whey with what I use....If this is what your saying, thats too much at once your wasting your money and kidneys. Your body wont absorb more than 40-50 grams at once....

 

[MasterBrewer]

Homie I said add some t-3. The rest I dont use I piss or shit out. To fuck your kidneys up you have to ingest more protien than that plus lack H20. We could get into the whole concept of time it take the protien to be broken down, the rate at which it broken down, how fast it moves through you stomach to you GI track and the rate at wich it is absorbed. But that might hurt some heads.

 

[sensational]

Each shake you have is 100 grams of protein? That would be four scoops of whey with what I use....If this is what your saying, thats too much at once your wasting your money and kidneys. Your body wont absorb more than 40-50 grams at once....

That is a myth, it will absorb whatever the hell you put in it. The question is whether it will be used for the purposes that we want it used for.

 

[MasterBrewer]

My kidney must be fucked I've doing it for 8 years. Wait no I just had a lipid panel done.

 

[bigpimpin25]

1.5 is good.....4 grams/lb is bullshit your body wouldnt absorb it youd be shitting and farting it out like crazy

i already fart enough to kill a flock of sheep man.. the bermuda triangle is caused by deep sea diving bodybuilders i believe. with all the protein sharts and farts that come up and take whole ships under man

 

[TheRide]

1.5-2g per lb of body weight, all gear increase protein synthesis

yup....

 

[nzrodney]

I wonder how the "Blood Type" issue effects protein synthesis. I'm not familiar with that diet, but many people I know swear by it.

Yeah I have only briefly looked at the Blood Type Diet. There may be something in it but it appeared to be too restrictive for the average Joe BBer.

 

[flajice]

That is a myth, it will absorb whatever the hell you put in it. The question is whether it will be used for the purposes that we want it used for.

How do u know this?

 

[sensational]

How do u know this?

Because it has been proven, over and over again. Your body will digest whatever macro-nutrients your put into your body. The argument is risk/reward with protein intake.

Hypothetically speaking, high protein intake is great for a variety of reasons. For bodybuilding purposes, it almost ensures that you will have a positive nitrogen balance. Further, gram for gram, protein is more thermogenic than any other macro nutrient in that it takes more energy to digest protein than it does carbs or fat.

Any two dollar trainer that states "your body can only absorb X amount of protein" should be kicked in the balls. This is ignorance on par with "steroids make your dick smaller" statement that is still being sprayed.

The facts are these:

1. Your body will digest almost everything you ingest.

2. Excess nitrogen will be excreted through the urine.

3. The ignorance of the general public is astounding.

So, knowing all of this, from a bodybuilding perspective the argument becomes:

Should I take in a level of protein that might put me in a positive nitrogen balance, or should I eat enough protein to ensure that I am in a positive nitrogen balance?

The worst thing that can happen is you excrete the excess nitrogen. Whoopy-doo. High protein intake can be correlated with increased liver and kidney values that are indicators of abnormal function, but "normal" does not necessarily mean pathological. Bodybuilders are not "normal" humans, and I don't know of one case where high protein intake caused renal failure, or cirrohis of the liver etc.

This is the information age people, lets get it right. If anyone has any scientific proof to the contrary bring it, but I have never seen it, and I have looked and looked.

 

[bigslimfitting]

1.5 is good.....4 grams/lb is bullshit your body wouldnt absorb it youd be shitting and farting it out like crazy

I fart all fucking day and growing like sweet sweet weed. I don't care who smells my asspipe, I'm on a quest to get huge. I take 5-6 40g protein a day. And a half a bottle of pepsi, spike that insulin baby

 

[bigpimpin25]

Because it has been proven, over and over again. Your body will digest whatever macro-nutrients your put into your body. The argument is risk/reward with protein intake.

Hypothetically speaking, high protein intake is great for a variety of reasons. For bodybuilding purposes, it almost ensures that you will have a positive nitrogen balance. Further, gram for gram, protein is more thermogenic than any other macro nutrient in that it takes more energy to digest protein than it does carbs or fat.

Any two dollar trainer that states "your body can only absorb X amount of protein" should be kicked in the balls. This is ignorance on par with "steroids make your dick smaller" statement that is still being sprayed.

The facts are these:

1. Your body will digest almost everything you ingest.

2. Excess nitrogen will be excreted through the urine.

3. The ignorance of the general public is astounding.

So, knowing all of this, from a bodybuilding perspective the argument becomes:

Should I take in a level of protein that might put me in a positive nitrogen balance, or should I eat enough protein to ensure that I am in a positive nitrogen balance?

The worst thing that can happen is you excrete the excess nitrogen. Whoopy-doo. High protein intake can be correlated with increased liver and kidney values that are indicators of abnormal function, but "normal" does not necessarily mean pathological. Bodybuilders are not "normal" humans, and I don't know of one case where high protein intake caused renal failure, or cirrohis of the liver etc.

This is the information age people, lets get it right. If anyone has any scientific proof to the contrary bring it, but I have never seen it, and I have looked and looked.

absolutely correct ! bodybuilders are NOT "normal " by any means . lol i would eat shit if it made me bigger

 

[ceo]

I would go with at least 2 grams/lb of bodyweight.

 

[nzrodney]

Because it has been proven, over and over again. Your body will digest whatever macro-nutrients your put into your body. The argument is risk/reward with protein intake.

Hypothetically speaking, high protein intake is great for a variety of reasons. For bodybuilding purposes, it almost ensures that you will have a positive nitrogen balance. Further, gram for gram, protein is more thermogenic than any other macro nutrient in that it takes more energy to digest protein than it does carbs or fat.

Any two dollar trainer that states "your body can only absorb X amount of protein" should be kicked in the balls. This is ignorance on par with "steroids make your dick smaller" statement that is still being sprayed.

The facts are these:

1. Your body will digest almost everything you ingest.

2. Excess nitrogen will be excreted through the urine.

3. The ignorance of the general public is astounding.

So, knowing all of this, from a bodybuilding perspective the argument becomes:

Should I take in a level of protein that might put me in a positive nitrogen balance, or should I eat enough protein to ensure that I am in a positive nitrogen balance?

The worst thing that can happen is you excrete the excess nitrogen. Whoopy-doo. High protein intake can be correlated with increased liver and kidney values that are indicators of abnormal function, but "normal" does not necessarily mean pathological. Bodybuilders are not "normal" humans, and I don't know of one case where high protein intake caused renal failure, or cirrohis of the liver etc.

This is the information age people, lets get it right. If anyone has any scientific proof to the contrary bring it, but I have never seen it, and I have looked and looked.

Well put & I agree. There was some shit info going around the traps that the body can only metabolise a certain amount of protein at any time. I think it was 50gms in a 2-3 hour period but I'm not sure. If you are geared up you require even more proteins than the natty BBer because you should be breaking down muscle at a faster rate. The last thing you want is for the body to swing into using proteins stored in muscle for energy. Also there are chems like clen that destroy proteins esp BCAAs so supplementation is very important.