How much HTPA suppression from Anavar only cycle?

[bbkingpinn]

I have HCG on hand but was wondering how much HTPA suppression to expect from an anavar only cycle (40-50 mg per day for 6 weeks). Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[Doktor Bollix]

I doubt it very much you're going to need that HCG let's put it that way.

 

[seymoor]

I would just run some clomid at the end for a week or so.

 

[AlwaysOn]

go download the primary research journal articles like I have.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/se...25&sortspec=relevance&sortspecbrief=relevance

and make sure you look at DATA

never take their conlusion as gospel

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I have HCG on hand but was wondering how much HTPA suppression to expect from an anavar only cycle (40-50 mg per day for 6 weeks). Thanks in advance for any help.

varies considerably from individual to individual

 

[OMEGA]

will do a run soon

many vets say no need for hcg

and that was with 8 weeks at 60-70 a day

the one who did recomend hcg

stated 500 iu's every 4 dasy or so would suffice

then one should follow standard PCT after cessation of the OX

 

[AlwaysOn]

I think hcg is especially needed on a var only cycle

 

[Doktor Bollix]

I think hcg is especially needed on a var only cycle

Why?

 

[frotobaggins]

hcg is only needed if the testes are in atrophy.

 

[junk]

hcg is only needed if the testes are in atrophy.

BULLSHIT!

A more accurate statement is: "HCG is absolutly needed if testicular atrophy occurs."

However if an individual does not experience testicular atrophy it's quite poor of an assumption that he did not experience HPTA natural test production supression. Your natural test production can be quite supressed even if you do not notice any testicular atrophy. I'm a living proof to it. Was I dumb listening to mal advice. I had huge balls and below 300 mark test production.

Oh and by the way, JA qouted the clinical study where a very low dose of oxandrolone showed a remarkable decrease in natural testosterone. The theory that oxandrolone does not affect the hpta or only affect the hpta to a very low degree is science fiction, certianly at dosages of over 30mg a day for weeks.

Use PCT of at least a month just like on any other cycle. better safe than sorry.

 

[bbkingpinn]

BULLSHIT!

A more accurate statement is: "HCG is absolutly needed if testicular atrophy occurs."

However if an individual does not experience testicular atrophy it's quite poor of an assumption that he did not experience HPTA natural test production supression. Your natural test production can be quite supressed even if you do not notice any testicular atrophy. I'm a living proof to it. Was I dumb listening to mal advice. I had huge balls and below 300 mark test production.

Oh and by the way, JA qouted the clinical study where a very low dose of oxandrolone showed a remarkable decrease in natural testosterone. The theory that oxandrolone does not affect the hpta or only affect the hpta to a very low degree is science fiction, certianly at dosages of over 30mg a day for weeks.

Use PCT of at least a month just like on any other cycle. better safe than sorry.

Thanks. Good advice!

 

[wootoom]

true that. trying some clomid at the end of my var only cycle.

 

[OMEGA]

the consensus from my research was

no HCG

juts PCT with clomid and nolvadex

that was my concensus

 

[DrJMW]

If you experience any testicular atrophy, you must use HCG post cycle to quickly recover testicular mass. Most people are poor judges of atrophy, believe it or not. Better safe than sorry if you are one of the poor judges.

 

[Ulter]

I have seen studies where patients were given 80mg/day of oxandrolone for several months and still had an LH reading. This would indicate that their HPTA was up and running albeit greatly inhibited.

 

[DrJMW]

And I have seen clients who use 20-40mg and have little to no LH reading. There is no right or wrong answer. Just being aware and taking precautions.

 

[Ulter]

I forgot to mention that age plays a huge role in the inhibition. The studies I have read were all done with young men. Like the doc said though, past performance is not a guarantee of future results.

 

[frotobaggins]

So what use does hcg serve in Pct if the testes are not in atrophy my smart guy? Hcg does nothing to stimulate LH. Just because I said that hcg most likly will not be needed on a var only cycle does not mean that other measures are not necessary.

 

[eviction]

does HCG go bad when it is in powder form?

 

[Ulter]

Not in the vial.

 

[AlwaysOn]

I have seen studies where patients were given 80mg/day of oxandrolone for several months and still had an LH reading. This would indicate that their HPTA was up and running albeit greatly inhibited.

link?

 

[AlwaysOn]

BTW, while I have you attention, what was the name of the compound that looks like var but really isn't? (i.e. in those fake btg's)