How many shakes is too many ??????

[supra888]

OK Guys , This is what i have put together for my Bulking Diet ....Comments and advice welcome !
i know there is a shitload of whey protein in there but i cant stomach TUNA : )


50G OATS , 2 SCOOPS WHEY PROTEIN MEAL I. 7.00AM PROTEIN :55gCARBS : 40gFAT :10gCALORIES : 430


4 EGGS ,1 SCOOP WHEY PROTEIN MEAL 2. 10.00AM PROTEIN: 50gCARBS :5g FAT :30 gCALORIES : 480


PASTA / RICE / SWEET POTATO + CHICKEN / BEEF 1 SCOOP PROTEIN ,APPLE MEAL 3. 1.30PMPROTEIN: 50gCARBS : 70gFAT : 10gCALORIES : 660


WORKOUT 3.30PM - 4.30


MRP SHAKE MEAL 4. 4.30PM PROTEIN: 55gCARBS :75gFAT : 10gCALORIES : 570


500G NATURAL YOGURT 50G OATS 1 SCOOP WHEY PROTEIN MEAL 5. 6.00PM PROTEIN:55 gCARBS :70gFAT : 15gCALORIES : 640


PASTA / RICE / SWEET POTATO + CHICKEN / BEEF 1 SCOOP PROTEIN MEAL 6. 8.3OPM PROTEIN:50 gCARBS :50 gFAT :10 gCALORIES : 560


2 SCOOPS WHEY PROTEIN, 1 TBLS UDO'S OIL , 50G MIXED NUTS , 4 FLAMEOUT CAPS (fish oil )MEAL 7. 10.00PM PROTEIN: 60gCARBS :15gFAT : 50gCALORIES : 670

TOTAL : PROTEIN:385gCARBS: 330gFAT :135gCALS:4000 (macros approx 40% - 30% - 30% )

 

[chewyxrage]

Looks decent. What's your stats? That is an awful lot of powder to be drinking each day.

 

[supra888]

190 lbs

6 ft tall

14% bf

36 yo

Am looking to put together a decent ON-CYCLE Bulking diet for my Test/Deca /Dbol cycle which kicks off in 3 weeks.....
At approx 70 cent per scoop i'm not too worried about washing down each meal with a shake..i think its a relatively cheap source of protein.

 

[supra888]

the original post looks a bit cluttered...its probably easier to read like this.
am thinking of throwing another 2 eggs into meal 2 ???

50g of Oats
2 Scoops of Whey Protein
Banana

4 Whole Eggs
1 Scoop Whey Protein

100g of Whole wheat Pasta
Breast of Chicken
Apple
1 Scoop of Whey Protein

Work out

Gainer Shake

16 oz Natural Low Fat Yogurt
50g of Oats
1 Scoop of Whey Protein

1 Cup Sweet Potato
5 oz Lean Mince Beef
½ Cup Veggies
1 Scoop of Whey Protein

2 Scoops of Whey Protein
1 Tablespoon of Flaxseed oil
50g of Mixed Nuts

4000 calories

385g of Protein
330g of Carbs
135g of Fat

 

[RottenWillow]

Wow that is a buttload of whey.


Even if it's whey sourced at a pretty low quality level, it's gonna be 23g per 1/3 cup scoop. (high quality isolate would be more like 28). Splitting the difference, and only counting complete protein sources, you're at like 358 grams of protein daily.

Unless your lbm is already 230 or better, I don't think you need that much protein to grow, even if you're running a cycle and hitting the iron really hard. Just my opinion of course, and they're like assholes.

1.5x your lbm in high quality complete protein grams

 

[rikishi]

you should only have whey protein either coming off a long fast or immediately post workout. any other time it digests too rapidly and your body will not use it well and will shit a lot of it out. this means that a lot less protein gets to your muscles which means smaller gains. dump the whey protein at any other meal other than pw or first thing in the morning and replace it with chicken breast

 

[Captain FT]

In my opinion I think thats too much protein from powder. I do Muscle Replenisher for post workout, and only if I'm short on time to make a complete meal will I make a quick protein shake. I keep some RTD shakes at work if I need them, but you have 1 scoop with each meal, that can get hard on your body man.

 

[supra888]

Thanks Guys, i guess i'll drop a couple of the shakes in favour of more eggs and chicken !

Although ,i think i'm already addicted to gold standard choc mint whey ........ : )

 

[joe d]

you need solids in your diet for reasons other than muscle building. that being said you could add mixed berries, a small amount of veggie, eggs, milk, nuts or oils, and oats to all of these shakes and be perfectly fine from a muscle building stand point.

2 cups of milk and 2 egg whites is 22g of some of the best protein their is. then the oats, fruits/ veggies, and fats complete the meal. the idea would be smaller portions and more frequent meals

 

[supra888]

if ya like the shakes that much they wotn hurt

reall food is always better

hwoever i persoanly someitmes opt for shakes since its sometimes cheaper to have a shake, plus when bulking reall food is difficult to get in so opting for a shake makes getting those calories in easier

yeah bro its easier to adjust your macros in favour of protein with a shake without bumping carbs or fat...

 

[supra888]

you need solids in your diet for reasons other than muscle building. that being said you could add mixed berries, a small amount of veggie, eggs, milk, nuts or oils, and oats to all of these shakes and be perfectly fine from a muscle building stand point.

2 cups of milk and 2 egg whites is 22g of some of the best protein their is. then the oats, fruits/ veggies, and fats complete the meal. the idea would be smaller portions and more frequent meals

Cheers Joe,

i havent been drinking milk at all lately ,i read somewhere that cows milk it is poorly absorbed by the human digestive system ..but that could be BS, i dont know .?

Anyway a few cups on a bulk could'nt be a bad thing either way .

 

[joe d]

Cheers Joe,

i havent been drinking milk at all lately ,i read somewhere that cows milk it is poorly absorbed by the human digestive system ..but that could be BS, i dont know .?

Anyway a few cups on a bulk could'nt be a bad thing either way .

yes, that same info. floats around here to. milk is extremely good for muscle growth. it hangs right in there if not above beef and eggs.

milk is better than anything while bulking because it creates an insulin spike which is verry anabolic. and with your milk you will have a great combination of muscle building nutrients ready to be shuttled to your muscles. keeping the diet clean will keep most of the gains in muscle instead of fat. the only other way to get this response from diet is with large amounts of sugars which are harder to stear in the right direction.

milk is king and it has been proven for years by all the big boys. well most of them.

 

[Dial_tone]

I'm not a big meat eater but you do wanna get half your protein from real food. Have a big omelet with 3-4 whole eggs, a couple more whites, some cheese. I throw in some lean microwave bacon too. I'll have a sit down meal along with one scoop of why to get it around 50-60g per meal.

16oz water
2 ice cubes
1 cup of raw oats, the minute cook kind
a spoonful of natural peanut butter

You get protein, complex carbs, good fats and fiber in one shebang.

 

[Captain FT]

milk is king and it has been proven for years by all the big boys. well most of them.

But Arnold said "No, No Milk, Milk is for babies, when you grow up you are to drink beer."

How can you argue with that Joe?

 

[supra888]

So its ,

1 Beer
2 whole eggs
4 egg wites
2 scoops of NPB
1 scoop Whey
1 Sick Bag

Perfect ! : )

 

[chewyxrage]

But Arnold said "No, No Milk, Milk is for babies, when you grow up you are to drink beer."

How can you argue with that Joe?

I sooooo wish that was true


I'd be so swole right now


I tried mixing protein in beer in my younger days (beer bong)

I made it.

My lifting partner yak'ed in the sink