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How long can I run T3 at 12.5mcg?

I haven't seen much talk on this, ya I searched. Since it a non supresive amount it seems fairly safe... (As I understand it).. But I don't desire to mess myself up either...
 
In BigAndy69's t3 thread he gives a sample mild t3 cycle using 12.5mcg for 4 weeks and then ramping down to 6.25mcg for one week. If you read through the thread it is discussed that 12.5mcg only mildy suppresses the thyroid, but is still enough to speed up your metabolism past normal levels and make more efficient use of food.

I think the 4 weeks and then ramp down is probably the safest idea even though it is a very light dosage. You really have to find out how you respond to the t3. Some people get shut down real bad even after cycling properly at moderate dosages. I've seen posts by other people stopping cold after taking over 75mcg with no ramp down and regain natural thyroid function quickly without any problems.

Do a similar short and mild cycle to gauge your reaction first before you even think of running it for a long time.
 
You should also be aware that t3 receptors are located all over the body. It affects more than just metabolism. Hyperthyroidism over long durations can cause insulin resistance, eye disease, calcium loss from bone, poor mental functioning, tachycardia (increased heart rate progressing to atrial fibrillation), and muscle weakness to name a few.
 
I think the use of T3 should be limited to increasing your metabolism at the tail end of an extreme diet.

For me, after about 3 weeks of dieting, my metabolism slows down quite a bit so I add 12.5mcg of T3 to keep losing fat at a steady rate, I use it for 5-6 weeks tops.

I will never do a 25mcg+ T3 cycle again.
 
Thank-you all! I have never done a over 12.5mcg, because I like what it does at this level and risk factor. I prefer to use a bunch of little tools in safe moderation like T3/gh or a nyc/eca stack cycle and cardio vs trying to accomplish everything with just 'more drug'...
 
i'm doing 4 months of the following: 50mcg ED of T3, 80mg spiropent ED (2 on 2 off), 500mg Enanthate EW, 35mg winny 40 days/ 500mg EQ EW 8 weeks/ 35mg winny 40 days (tolling approx 4 months), GH 2 iu a day all 4 months (actually a 6 month run on it, 1 months pre and 1 month post cycle on 2iu GH). as well as 10iu humulin R post w/o only (4 days a week) :D i figure i got enough anabolics in there to cover my ass more than enough. and i'm using the 4th month to ramp down slooooooowly over a months time...like a week of 37.5mcg/week 25mcg/week 12.5mcg/week 6mcg. so its actually 3 months on 50mcg ED T3 all told. i figure i will shut things down temporarily.....but i doubt 50mcg for that long then ramped down will cause any real harm. i guess i'll let you know in a few months. :) i am a professional steroid user, please don't try this at home. lol. :p
 
FREAKAZILLA....

you plan on running T3 for 4 months straight...

for somebody who answers every post like he knows it all, you sure sound like an ill-informed novice with your t3 doses.

please, re-educate yourself as you may harm yourself and maybe even harm others with your mis-information and nonsense.
 
satchboogie said:
FREAKAZILLA....

you plan on running T3 for 4 months straight...

for somebody who answers every post like he knows it all, you sure sound like an ill-informed novice with your t3 doses.

please, re-educate yourself as you may harm yourself and maybe even harm others with your mis-information and nonsense.

dude, like i said before......stay off my back. 50mcg ED is not anything major, 4th month is ramping down too. i never said anyone else should do it, read the last sentence matter of fact. so you don't want to do it, don't do it. i'm doing it, thanks for the concern though mom. :rolleyes: and as for "answers like he knows everything" are you jealous of my knowledge over you? otherwise i see no need to bring that up.
 
...and Freakzilla i do disagree with you again...

I think 4 month of 50mcg ed is very harsh on your body..
I wont do it. And i think Spectre shouldnt do it either..

try those 12.5mcg for a couple of weeks, and see how you react to it. The you can higher your dose if you want to.
I also think that you shouldnt use t3 for longer than 5, 6 weeks tops
 
FREAKZILLA1 said:


dude, like i said before......stay off my back. 50mcg ED is not anything major, 4th month is ramping down too. i never said anyone else should do it, read the last sentence matter of fact. so you don't want to do it, don't do it. i'm doing it, thanks for the concern though mom. :rolleyes: and as for "answers like he knows everything" are you jealous of my knowledge over you? otherwise i see no need to bring that up.

dude...

unlike you, i dont send bad karma titled "fuck you" because i dont agree with somebody's post.

second, i'm not jealous of you in any way. believe that!

third, even though you're an asshole i'm still concerned for the board's safety as your post may influence somebody to perhaps give a '4 month T3 run' a try.

also, even though you're a total jerk, i dont want too see another 'my thyroid is so fucked' thread.

take care of yourself.
 
Here we go again...................

I'm so tired of all the nay-sayers. Prolonged use of T3 even at very high dosages of say 100-300mcgs per day, will not shut down your thyroid permenantly. There have been people on t3 for years and years and when they were taken off the drug their thyroid fuction returned to normal. http://www.rippedmass.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=806&highlight=cytomel

Here is another article: http://www.anabolicextreme.com/anabolic/archives/anex_archives_issue9_getlean.htm

Bro the best way to find out most anything that you want to know is to use that little button at the top of the page, called the search button. Too many bro's on here spreading misinformation to take any chances. Do you homework, and then make your own educated decisions. Hope this helps you.
Oh yea and please none of that, t3 can shut you down for life!!!! I believe that its Warlobo who has had a standing bet going for quite some time now, if anyone can prove that using t3 can shut down your thyroid function for life, he will pay them $100, no one has taken his money yet. Be easy bro.
 
mmm.... interesting post..

I searched the net also to educate myself a little...
always red that it WILL shut you down.
But now i red this, i'm a bit confused...

For myself i think i wont take the chance of thyriod shutdown, so stay with the low dosage short period t3 cycles.
But maybe you're right and it wont..

I think, like you, people should educate themselfs and then decide for themselfs..
But since this is a discusion board... we have to discuse / argue about it. and thats what we're doing now..
 
Re: Here we go again...................

Big_Nims said:
I'm so tired of all the nay-sayers. Prolonged use of T3 even at very high dosages of say 100-300mcgs per day, will not shut down your thyroid permenantly. There have been people on t3 for years and years and when they were taken off the drug their thyroid fuction returned to normal. http://www.rippedmass.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=806&highlight=cytomel

Here is another article: http://www.anabolicextreme.com/anabolic/archives/anex_archives_issue9_getlean.htm

Bro the best way to find out most anything that you want to know is to use that little button at the top of the page, called the search button. Too many bro's on here spreading misinformation to take any chances. Do you homework, and then make your own educated decisions. Hope this helps you.
Oh yea and please none of that, t3 can shut you down for life!!!! I believe that its Warlobo who has had a standing bet going for quite some time now, if anyone can prove that using t3 can shut down your thyroid function for life, he will pay them $100, no one has taken his money yet. Be easy bro.

thank you. i had been referred to this by a few members of another board. and researched before i bumped the dose or decided on prolonged use. mr. holland and mr. boogie follow me around and wait for me to say something contraversial in the least, then start shit. don't mind them. children! lol. i NEVER said the dude should do T3 4 months straight at any dose (although i would tell him 12.5 is fine for that length). so don't put words in my mouth, or like i told lift chief when he did, i am going to get pissed. i stated my cycle and T3 use in it since he was asking about prolonged usage etc as it relates to T3. suprised lift chief isn't on here? where is the other part of the trio? lol. it isn't the same with only two guys on my nuts. :rolleyes:
 
satchboogie said:




unlike you, i dont send bad karma titled "fuck you" because i dont agree with somebody's post.


that was return karma AFTER YOU SENT IT TO ME FIRST ASSHOLE! so another member of the trio is caught accusing me wrongly again! i sent "fuck you" karma" BACK AT YOU. not TO you. stay off my nuts and out of my karma section, and you wont get those nasty little quotes. you guys are such losers.
 
Cant get along? Then get it on, put on the gloves:-) Just kidding. I wouldnt recommend anyone doing a t3 cycle for 4 months, or going much higher than 100mcg's per day. Even if it wont shut you down for good, it cant be that healthy for your body.
 
Big_Nims said:
Cant get along? Then get it on, put on the gloves:-)

i'd love too...thats the problem with the net, jerkoffs can say whatever they want and get away with it. like my stalkers. i got three fucking stalkers for christs sakes. damn homos.
 
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!

I just said that i didnt agree with you!!!
A few days ago i did agree with you... and now i dont.
So what, i have another oppinion, thats all... i dont accuse you of nothing and do say that what i wright is right!

Just chill man

This is a discussion board... if you have a problem with people who dissagree with you dont go to a DISCISSION BOARD...
 
sorry...

meant to say... i dont say that all the sings i say are right.. instead of 'and do say that what i wright is right'
 
Mr.Holland said:
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!

I just said that i didnt agree with you!!!
A few days ago i did agree with you... and now i dont.
So what, i have another oppinion, thats all... i dont accuse you of nothing and do say that what i wright is right!

Just chill man

This is a discussion board... if you have a problem with people who dissagree with you dont go to a DISCISSION BOARD...

well not necessarily you....the other two follow me around to mainly disagree with everything i say and make stupid comments. they need to get off my back, or there will be some flame wars big time. so mods need to PM them and tell them to chill not me. i don't comment on any of their shit, and if i disagree i don't quote them and disagree with them...i just disagree with the idea not the person who backed that idea up. they have to put me up in quotes (even though others said the same thing) and disagree with me in particular. and then there are the false accusations like never injecting before, :rolleyes: and the putting words in my mouth. they keep it up, and we will see. couple of punk ass know-it-all kids.
 
okay...

I just give my oppinion, you give yours...
we maybe dissagree.
but i dont accuse you of nothing and dont put words i your mouth.... just discussing some topics

so if you could talk about 2 stalkers instead of 3... would be nice.

Now lets talk steroids, cause there we're here for..
 
FREAKZILLA1 said:


that was return karma AFTER YOU SENT IT TO ME FIRST ASSHOLE! so another member of the trio is caught accusing me wrongly again! i sent "fuck you" karma" BACK AT YOU. not TO you. stay off my nuts and out of my karma section, and you wont get those nasty little quotes. you guys are such losers.

i never sent you bad karma.

that has got to be, by far, the WEAKEST attempt to win back some crediblity on the board.

you accuse me of something i didnt do.

i'm through with your childish behavior.
 
FREAK...

i never called you 'bad' names, never bad mouthed you...

just disagreed.

youre the one jumping out with obscenity.

lets keep in clean dude. no beef. move on.
 
satchboogie said:


i never sent you bad karma.

that has got to be, by far, the WEAKEST attempt to win back some crediblity on the board.

you accuse me of something i didnt do.

i'm through with your childish behavior.

then what is that karma by YOUR NAME that said "totally uncalled for man". lol. any mod, please access my karma and check, its there. or someone let me know how to post it up here and i will do it. negative or not, doesn't matter.....this username i use now has no karma implications and neither does yours. negative or postitive is the same. GREY, under 100 karma points. so you DID post karma at me first, don't fucking lie about it.
 
satchboogie said:


third, even though you're an asshole

also, even though you're a total jerk,

hmmmmm....never called names, never left karma.....both i proved and can prove you did. but i am losing credibility. lol. had 3500 post before you even registered bitch. and i can give you the names of 5 board members with 4000 plus posts to prove i did who knew me before as well as now. got plenty of credibility here. can't say the same for you at this point.
 
Dial_tone said:



Just wait til you hit your late 30's, sonny. You'll be doing whatever it takes to get those pounds off. Where's my gosh darn arthritis meds.
LOL

Well I'm early thirties but I got some hard miles on me. It won't be long on this board before we hear...

Check out my new cutter!

Test/ensure/T3/Geritol/GH/aspercreme
 
So many focus on whether or not the thyroid will recover after suppression. 99% of the time it will. Instead, the focus should be on the consequences of having excess T3 in your system for 4 straight months. Obviously this is dose related, but everyone should remember that T3 does more than just effect metabolism. There are 5 different thyroid hormone receptors located all over the body (brain, heart, muscle, liver, kidneys, pituitary, hypothalamus, bone, adipose tissue) resulting in multiple actions. Do a pubmed search on the consequences of hyperthyroidism, because by staying on for that long, you are essentially simulating such a pathological condition.
 
anyone know of a 20mcg/tab dosage of T3 out of europe. i always see everyone talk about the 25mcg/tab. just wondering if its real.
 
i had my thyroid chekked 4 weeks after being on T3 for 10 weeks(doseage ranged from 25-50mcg). my test came bak normal, no probs what so ever...would i do it again for that long, sure, i have found T3 to be of great use when cycling because it allows me more freedom in my diet, although now i only use 12.5-25mcg because i have found it to be right for what i want.

mike
 
mikecsa said:
i had my thyroid chekked 4 weeks after being on T3 for 10 weeks(doseage ranged from 25-50mcg). my test came bak normal, no probs what so ever...would i do it again for that long, sure, i have found T3 to be of great use when cycling because it allows me more freedom in my diet, although now i only use 12.5-25mcg because i have found it to be right for what i want.

mike

watch out! your giving out info that is harmful to others supposedly!! :FRlol: can't give your personal cycle or personal experience or the EF police will get you, one of them is on this thread so your probably in REALLY big trouble. :D
 
Re: Here we go again...................

Big_Nims said:
I'm so tired of all the nay-sayers. Prolonged use of T3 even at very high dosages of say 100-300mcgs per day, will not shut down your thyroid permenantly. There have been people on t3 for years and years and when they were taken off the drug their thyroid fuction returned to normal. http://www.rippedmass.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=806&highlight=cytomel

Here is another article: http://www.anabolicextreme.com/anabolic/archives/anex_archives_issue9_getlean.htm

Bro the best way to find out most anything that you want to know is to use that little button at the top of the page, called the search button. Too many bro's on here spreading misinformation to take any chances. Do you homework, and then make your own educated decisions. Hope this helps you.
Oh yea and please none of that, t3 can shut you down for life!!!! I believe that its Warlobo who has had a standing bet going for quite some time now, if anyone can prove that using t3 can shut down your thyroid function for life, he will pay them $100, no one has taken his money yet. Be easy bro.


I echo this.
 
I've done long term T3 cycles at 12.5mcg and I've never had any issues when coming off of it. If there was any suppression then it wasn't noticeable. Personally I don't think taking T3 at 12.5mcg for a few months at a time poses any problems for the average person. Perhaps if you have some sort of underlying thyroid problem then it may cause problems, so just do a blood test to find out first. If everything checks out ok you should be fine.

And if you want to know for sure how dangerous it is then run that dose for a few weeks and have your blood tested after the cycle. If it's near normal levels then go for a longer cycle. I doubt that small of a dose would cause any more significant suppression long term than it does in the first few weeks.

Research this for yourself and get blood work done. Once you know how your body reacts then it doesn't matter what all these heresay spouters are telling you. I really wish people who have no real world experience on a topic would quit giving out advice on something they heard from someone else. Those people gain zero credibility in my book. Feel free to give a friendly warning and point them to your reference thread or study, but don't just come into a message and say "Don't do it, it's dangerous!" especially if you've never tried it.
 
Vageta said:
I've done long term T3 cycles at 12.5mcg and I've never had any issues when coming off of it. If there was any suppression then it wasn't noticeable. Personally I don't think taking T3 at 12.5mcg for a few months at a time poses any problems for the average person. Perhaps if you have some sort of underlying thyroid problem then it may cause problems, so just do a blood test to find out first. If everything checks out ok you should be fine.

And if you want to know for sure how dangerous it is then run that dose for a few weeks and have your blood tested after the cycle. If it's near normal levels then go for a longer cycle. I doubt that small of a dose would cause any more significant suppression long term than it does in the first few weeks.

Research this for yourself and get blood work done. Once you know how your body reacts then it doesn't matter what all these heresay spouters are telling you. I really wish people who have no real world experience on a topic would quit giving out advice on something they heard from someone else. Those people gain zero credibility in my book. Feel free to give a friendly warning and point them to your reference thread or study, but don't just come into a message and say "Don't do it, it's dangerous!" especially if you've never tried it.


Agreed.. Yes I do get bloodwork done monthly, it's free, I'll start watching it.
 
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