I will end up getting some color being that it's nearly summer and I like to play outside.velvett said:OU!!
IN!
I totally need a make up over haul - I dislike everything I have I want to start from scratch. I just haven't made the time to do this. BOO!
I've given up the sun bathing and tanning so I'm pale for me but I also have olive skin
Daily:
Cover up those eye circles, they're not terribly dark but they show when I'm pale and worse when I'm tired.
Navy, Pewter or Black liner
Curl lashes
Translucent power if necessary
lip balm or gloss
sometimes lip liner
If it's more formal I'll add blush and mascara.
Ilk said:Makeup... Skincare dept? Any problems?
If anyone needs any advice on ANYTHING feel free to ask me...
Or please spare 5min and tell me what yr routine is....
pores), but it still empathasizes them *Ugh*; and Great Lash Mascara in blackest black: The only mascara I've ever used-I love it and will never change-lol. My eyes are green and my skin is a medium tone with ruddy undertones (?). 
Ilk said:Ok... Not too bad... Simple but effective..
Olive skin... I'm guessing dark eyes or honey caramel coloured eyes??
If so, Try some soft coral colours, Add a dark blue liner instead of the black when you go out... A deep purple would work wonders on you too... I'll find the pics of the colours I want you to try tmw, Just so you get an idea of what I'm saying...
Nars has a great cream eyeshadow for everyday, Called THEBES
Orgasm (I know love the name too) Blush from Nars is amazing on olive, Pale and dark skins.... No matter how tired I am, Or how crappy I'm feeling I brush on that blush and BAM!! Fresh faced, Ready to head out! This blush you can wear everyday, Please do, The pigment with nars is very strong, So only a little is needed... Dab on with a big brush and slowly sweep on...
Soft pink lips... I can see on you... I have an image of you, So trust me...
Coral lips... Deeper colours for more of a formal evening... One day keep the eyes simple and play up the lips... Have smoky sexy eyes with lots of liner in the inner bottom rim.... Soft nude lips...
You get my point...
Mascara... Good.... Always wear a touch or more of that... Laura Mercier do a great eye base... In different colours... They stay on all day!! Matte easy to use... Brightens up the eye... It doesn't crease all day, I wear it everyday...
I'll post all these colours for you tmw... we can get abit more creative... Yes we can vel honey!
Lip colors I use are typically in the plum family. I always struggle with finding a good lip color. I want a color that is noticeable, but pretty natural - if that makes sense. I am not a "red" person or any other color that screams at you ... but I also don't like the skin-tone colors that just fade away into your face. Also, if it helps, I am a blue eyed bonde with light-medium skin (pale with no sun, but I tan easily and can get quite dark) velvett said:wow great stuff!
Green eyes-blue on the outer iris, green through most and speckles of hazel around the pupil
I used to do a lot of corals and purple...
I've really been slacking in the make up dept lately
Thanks Ilk!
ps. don't worry I totally trust you
LuluDeren said:Wow! Thank you Ilk
I have to say I was born with problem skin. Right now I use just the cleanser (of the three part system) from proactiv and it seems to keep pimples from popping up. I also use Metrogel and retin-A at night. I also use a moisterizer with sunblock during the day (I'm looking for an alternative to the Lubriderm brand i use because it is starting to *sting*-not sure if that is because of a new aversion to it's fragrence or not). At night, after the cream application, I use loads of gel baby oil and vaseline as a moisterizer.
I had scheduled a series of Photoderm and Microdermabrasion treatments for last fall, but some money emergencies came up and I won't be able to start these until the end of summer. I had posted seeking information regarding the Obagi System because I thought it was a more economical (temporary) treatment until I can get the photoderm, however Boston posted of her personal experience with this system and I've decided I wouldn't pursue it.
The only make up I wear is Revlon's Love Pat Moisterizing Powder: It's the only thing which doesn't seem to clog my (enlarged
Thank you again, Ilk, for your generous offer of advice
Ilk said:WOW beautiful eyes... this will be a piece of cake...
http://www.narscosmetics.com/acb/stores/1/Duo-Cream-Eyeshadow-C412_category_2.aspx
Check out SUMMERTIME and THEBES.. I use these alot on shoots... Simple, Sexy adds a hint of colour... If you want to be a little more adventourous (I think you should) Use SUMMERTIME add MOON RIVER Liquid liner... (The easiest liner ever)
http://www.narscosmetics.com/acb/stores/1/Liquid-Eyeliner-C49_category_7.aspx
So, Colours I want you to try are (heres the link, I'll name the colours)
http://www.narscosmetics.com/acb/stores/1/Single-Eyeshadow-C24_category_1.aspx
Really peachy coral tones... Faith, Bohemian Gold (Duo shadow) Granada cream eyeshadow, Summertime duo.
Soft Purples... Bysance duo shadow, Lido cream shadow, Elsa Duo..
Deep Purple (evening) One and only.. Santorini... Amazing, You can also wet the brush and wear it as a liner...
Liners.. Black, Blue, Purple, Green/Blue
http://www.narscosmetics.com/acb/stores/1/Eyeliner-Pencil-C47_category_7.aspx Please buy this pencil... It looks so amazing inside the bottom rim... Yr eyes will pop...
http://www.narscosmetics.com/acb/stores/1/The-Multiple-C61_category_7.aspx
The Mulitple...
MALDIVES will be perfect for you, Subtle but effective, Use on eyes, Lips and cheeks...
ORGASM blush is a must have...
LIPS..
http://www.narscosmetics.com/acb/stores/1/Lip-Gloss-C11_category_7.aspx
Check out CHIHUAHUA, STELLA, GIZA, SUNSET STRIP.... All great colours for you...
SO.... I'm not saying buy Nars... This is my fav brand because I love Francois Nars, He has helped so many women... The pigment is amazing too... Not one company can beat his products... Quality makeup...
These suggestions are for you to get an idea of colours, what to look out for.. Smoky colours would look wonders on you too... We'll get to that once we've tried abit more colour..
If you can buy some of those colours from your fav makeup brand.. It'll be fun and post me pics of looks you've created..
velvett said:OK Madame!
I will print this out, study and do some shopping!
I so needed this...
I don't know how to thank you.
YAY!!!
I'm so happy.
New toys..
Oh one quick question concealor/light foundation - suggestions?
Colors? I can never find the right one the first time
Need a pic?
I was looking at that Armani Silk you had once mentioned too.
I'll go with whatever you suggest, my skin's normal but prone to dry patches and if it's really hot I get that little oily t thing going on but powder always fixes that.
A few months ago I bought that highlighter from YSL and the color was so bad on me.
And thank you again.
I'm like giddy
Daisy_Girl said:Whatever I can do, as fast as possible?
Now that it is summer/hot out ... Here is my "routine"
1) face moisturizer as soon as I am out of the shower
2) little MAC concealer under eyes/around eyes/nose - to even out color
3) MAC bronzer (Refined Golden)
4) MAC Fluidline (I think) for eye liner - it's the cream that I apply with a thin brush, in a dark brown
5) MAC mascara - cannot leave without this on, my eyelashes are blonde
Will sometimes apply lipgloss/stick .... but that is gone within an hour and I always forget to reapply. Apparently, 64 kindergateners don't care about lip color.
Also have some MAC blush, Nars Orgasm (love it!) and Tarte gel stick blush. I use them occassionally, but less so in the summer. Now that I am tan though, I will look to drop the bronzer and just wear a good blush that does not rub off (which I find that most blush does on me).
That is it. Takes about 5 minutes.
YAY. I love makeup shopping. You are da best.
Ilk said:NO! To baby oil!!!!!
Ok... I don't like Proactiv... Way too much.. I don't know anyone who has been fully treated on that skincare... I know alot of people who have troubled skin... You know what works... Dr. Haushaka
I suffered from severe acne for 11 years, I never showed my face to anyone.. I had inches of makeup on to cover it... Finally I went on to Roaccutane for 6 months... Cleared everything..
Dr.Haushaka is the best skincare products for problem skin... It takes time for your skin to react to it, But its all organic, abit smelly but its fine, gentle...
there is a certain way to apply it to skin, No rubbing, Scrubbing... Gentle massage movements...
http://www.drhauschka.com/holistic-...e+Care+Kit,+Oily+-+For+oily+or+blemished+skin
Application details
http://www.drhauschka.com/holistic-treatments/treatment-descriptions/
This is great to try...
Abit of background info on Hauschka
http://www.drhauschka.com/about/our-approach/
NO more oil on face... DO not apply anything n your skin at night... Let it breath.. Too much is happening to your skin...
Keep it simple... This is the only range I use, My skin is spot free...
Cleanse, Moisturise, OILFREE please... Revlon powder... Switch to Laura Mercier powder... When you can...
Ok missy! Stay lovely!!
velvett said:
Daisy_Girl said:OOOO, great products.
I would like a good moisturizer or something that would minimize the laugh lines I have around my eyes (crows feet?) and the wrinkle I have on my forehead that comes from me scrunching up my brow when I am concentrating. In a price range that does not require me selling my baby to buy it, please.
I want to get Lasix first. Been wearing glasses for about 25 years and contacts for about 20 years. Quite tired of them.
I am drooling with this thread!!1Daisy_Girl said:I keep considering getting Botox on my forehead. Maybe one day.
missing chatting to you, I've been so busy moving into the new house, haven't had five minutes on the computer!! Will send you a pm in a little bit 
Daisy_Girl said:I keep considering getting Botox on my forehead. Maybe one day.
cezza30 said:I'm so boring with the make-up I wear.....
Everyday is pretty much the same:
Wake up, use cucumber facewipe on my face, Bodyshop Hemp facecream, No 7 Radiant Glow foundation (only a little bit needed), L'Oreal Touche Magique under my eyes, concealer if needed, bit of bronzer, then normally green eyeshadow finished off with Lancome Mascara. I've normally got about three Juicy Tubes in my bag, but nearly always forget to put them on.
I change the colour of my eyeshadow depending on what I'm wearing, but as I said I normally wear green / lime green / turquiosey colours. I curl my eyelashes and wear black/brown mascara, but never try eyeliner because I'm crap with it!!
When I get home in the evening, I take my make up off with the cucumber wipes again, then jump in the shower. I wear E45 lip balm to bed, and use a No 7 night cream on my face.
I'm so boring!! My night time look tends to be the same as above, but with the eyeshadow darker than in the day!! One day I'll learn to do something interesting and different with my eyes
Help me my dear Ilk
badgergrl said:OMG Ilk! This is amazing!
Do me! Do me!
I have problem skin too, but it's usually kept under control by prescription Differin gel. I just use a gentle cleanser: Johnson & Johnson and clinique's moisturizing gel. I also have really sensitive skin, and a lot of stuff makes me red.....this is better when I'm tan though.
I'm kind of clueless with makeup. I don't like to wear a lot....I'm pretty natural and low maintenance when it comes to makeup.
I use clinique clarifying makeup powder in neutral all over my face.
Covergirl perfect point eyeliner in espresso- line on the upper lids.
Sometimes I use a little shadow on the outer part of the lids- a shimmery pink
Mascara- right now I'm using some shitty almay (hate it) in dark brown
A lil bronzer or pink blush on the cheeks
I hate lipstick, but usually a little gloss in the lips
I have dark brown eyes...short lashes, which I hate
sort of olive skin
blonde hair(if that matters)
Fix me ILK!!!!!
Ilk said:Hey girlie! Well... If you don't wanna spend too much money on makeup, Bourjois is good with eye colours... Try A deep blue eye shadow, Wet the brush and slowly but carefully use it as an eye liner... Practice makes perfect!
Purples, Soft coral tones, Deep dark green would look fab too...
Mac colours are around 9 pounds... Great selections...
Skincare stuff... How are you finding the no7 cream? Whats your skintype?
I've got really pale blue eyes, but they're quite bright too . . . bright pale blue, if that makes sense. I like green on me, but then I get bored with anything if I wear it too much. I've got dark brown loose curly hair, and I always think bright eyeshadow looks nice on me . . . but who knows haha!cezza30 said:To be honest, I think I'm lucky with my skin anyway... it just seems to always stay soft! I don't get many spots at all, and if I do they tend to be on my chin, but this is quite rare. My skin is just in the middle, not oily but not dry, maybe it can be a tiny bit oily in the middle of my forehead but nothing major really. The No 7 one is really light so I quite like that, but I don't really know if it does anything!!
I've got a few Mac ones already - a really shimmery gold one and an emeraldy green one are the ones I tend to use. I've never really tried purple, that might be the next one for me to try
The only bit of my face that bothers me is under my eyes, because I do sometimes feel like there is quite a shadow there. Everyone recommends the Touche Eclat stuff from YSL but I've never tried it, any opinion on this? What would you recommend? Ooh I like having a make up person to talk to hehe!! You're awesome!
badgergrl said:Wow! Thanks so much Ilk!
I'm going to try the stuff you reccomend.
What do you suggest for mascara? I need something that gives me more length and fullness to my lashes, but doesn't clump....and what about the color?
I love people that have this talent!
Ilk said:Don't waste your money on that YSL crap... They're overrated it and it looks dry on the skin, Its obvious thats been applied to the skin too... What you should get is Laura Mercier
http://www.lauramercier.com/products/flawless_face/products/concealers/secret_camouflage/
Amazing stuff... You know the kind of people work on, When its early morning, Or just to freshen up this just makes them lighten up and cover up! Great stuff...
Try the Purple, Nars has one called SANTORINI, Check it out, Spacenk stocks it... Selfridges too... It looks really dark and its really deep... But don't be scared... Wet a liner brush and apply it as a liner, Not too thin or thick, Just enough so you can see the effect...
Try it! Remember its only makeup...
Hope all the house stuff is going well...
feisty11975 said:
cezza30 said:I did it
Today I wore a spring green kinda colour on my eyes, and used a darker green as eyeliner. I felt so pretty all day hehe, kept looking in the mirror at my eyes.
Yay go me!
Thank youuuuuuuuuuu
velvett said:Ilk!
Did some shopping.
LM - warm ivory- oil free foundation, primer and sc-1 camo (I totally for forgot the secret)
Nars - orgasm blush, manon eyeliner, bysance duo shadow, maldives multiple
YSL - Effet Faux Cils mascara - blk
I have more gloss in more colors than any one person should have and I have all the colors that you suggested - still tempted to get more...
So far I only have the LM products (I ordered the rest - two + hour drive to the nearest Nars) all of which I am really happy with so far.
YAY!
Thanks Ilk!
badgergrl said:
Ilk said:Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have fun, And let me know how it goes!!!!
velvett said:OH ILK!!!!!!
Everything has come...
The eyeshadow it's dramatic without being too colorful - MY GOD you were not kidding about the pigment and the blush - the color is perfect.
Multiples/Maldives - you must have read my mind - that is right up my alley.
The eyeliner just goes right on, no dragging and the color is perfect.
I was ecstatic about the light foundation because of a daily causal basis it evens out everything but looks natural (i use my finger and a wedge to apply) but the combo with the secret camo - it's like creamy smooth it covers everything (that is going to be awesome for those spot months - and migraine weeks).
I don't even know where to begin - I want to buy more more more they are so lovely!!!
I even love the Nars packaging... it's like rubbery velvet (HAHAHAHA!)
The mascara has a scent to it and it's lovely as well, I have it on right now and I'm not all itchy (SUCCESS!)
Come here woman
LuluDeren said:Hey Ilk! Can you recommend a self-tanner? I've seen those new ones with the moisterizer and tanner combined, are these any good? Thanks again, Ilk
Sassy69 said:OK I gotta get in here - this is awesome Ilk! I'm guilty of buying stuff from everywhere from the grocery store to the various makeup counters at the mall because I never really like the colors I have. Lately I'm on a kick w/ the burgundy shades --- my coloring - Shadow has seen me, both w/ the protan & w/o - I'm blonde (w/ chemical help to deal w/ the age-related roots), blue eyes, faie-skinned (think Swede / German). My skin tends to be combination skin but more on the oily side -I personally hate moisturizers because it makes me feel greasy. I have very little in the way of wrinkles thanks to the lifetime of oily skin, however I've got some mega annoying forehead lines - did botox in late 2005 but need to find a new doc here in CA after moving.
My routine is essentially:
- wake up - usually have the eye bags - its been a weird year and wild sleep schedules and it shows.
- wash face w/ whatever Neutrogena stuff
- one of my various skin-rejuvenation / eye bag moisturizer thingies under the eyes
My eyes are smallish, short eyelashes and my eyebrows sort of run out about 2/3 of the way so I put my efforts into making this all more stand-out -
- eyeliner first - could be anything from khaki green / olive, blue, purple shades, burgundy
- eye shadow - again matching the eyeliner but w/ a littler shade for the upper part under the brow, darker over the lid, something in the crease
- eyebrow pencil - try to get a full brow made (yea I gotta draw in alot of it) but not too dark
- mascara - black or brown/black
- a light foundation - again this is anything from Clinique to Maybelline - lately I've been traveling ALOT so I go w/ whatever I can find in a small container, use a sponge to apply primarily under eye, across nose, cheeks, etc to even out- but very light because my skin gets oilly over the course of the day, esp if I'm inside all day.
- Powder blush usually in the rose palette.
- chap stick
If I dont' get out in the sun I can get pretty damn pale which looks really bad. I try to get into a tanning bed at least 1x/week to keep a base. I suspect I'll be relying on that more than the sun this summer because the Bay Area is not what you call "warm".
I tend to put my efforts on my eyes because they disappear. I like a variety of colors - sometimes just to be obnoxious when I'm going out - but for work I'm liking the burgundy shades a bit more - more natural but not washed out.
I'm amazed that it seems the best colors on me are 'non-colors' - that goes for clothes as well. The burgundies I love but they are hard to find. The skin stuff has always been an issue for me- I've spent my whole life bathing in anti-acne medication - luckily I never had anything like cystic acne or whatever that is - but I've always had acne - its much better since I passed 37 (hormones) but still always there. Oily skin all the time. When I lived in FL & was out diving all the time I was buried in sun tan lotion & moisturizer but the last couple yrs I'm not outside as much and I just get oily if I stay inside. LOL excuses - frankly I forget in the morning and I hate oily feeling. Oily skin literally comes out in my contact lenses.Sassy69 said:Thx Ilk
So I'll definitely check that stuff out this weekend (my poor credit card is taking a beating from this move to CA...)
Ilk said:Hey LULU!!! I've been using the Nivea gradual tan for fair skin.. ANd let me tell you how dark my legs are!!! They're so tanned and healthy looking... What I love about it is that it doesn't streak, Drys quickly smells yummy and looks so natural!!!
Try that first and then I'll suggest something more intense if you don't like it... BUT you will love it!!!
Ilk said:Well... I'm glad you like it all! Thankyou for trusting me...
Whenever you want to be more creative with colour or with nars... LET ME KNOW!!!!
velvett said:Awwwww ILK - this what you do, what you are passionate about, it's a part of who you are - YES YES - I trust you completely.
"I'll be bAcK" (for part II - I can't hog you up all for myself)
I look forward to doing makeup now...
I dreaded it so much I was au natural most of the time.
I want to try the armani mascara and the nivea gradual tan too...
OU and the summertime cream duo shadow...
ou rambling.,,.
badgergrl said:I love the Armani mascara, Ilk!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great stuff! It really makes my eyes pop. Thanks!
LuluDeren said:Ilk, I got the Nivea gradual tan on friday and have used it the past few days. It's great and gives my skin a luscious color, so unlike other self tanners with their orange casts.
Thanks again our wonderful Ilk!
velvett said:*cough*
Ilk needs a beauty blog.
mermaid said:Hey there Ilk, long time no chat. Thanks for the message
Hope you don't mind - question for you:
Going to update the collection this weekend. Nars Orgasm is a definite but I wanted to ask about Laura Mercier. I hate foundation, just use a concealer and powder and luckily my skin is OK so I only need light coverage. Would the LM tinted moisturiser, concealer stick and the translucent powder work?
My colouring is like....well, think Dita Von Teese. Don't dress like her though, lol.
Also, while I like it while it lasts, I notice the faux cils dries out so quickly, it lasts only a month really. Would love to try the Armani but can't find it here - any other ideas?
I trust all is well in your world
Ilk said:Hey LULU!!! I've been using the Nivea gradual tan for fair skin.. ANd let me tell you how dark my legs are!!! They're so tanned and healthy looking... What I love about it is that it doesn't streak, Drys quickly smells yummy and looks so natural!!!
Try that first and then I'll suggest something more intense if you don't like it... BUT you will love it!!!
bostongirl2you said:Hey girlie
Does the Nivea blend easily around your ankles and feet/toes? Thats where I always have a hard time with self tanners.
Ilk said:Right Flor.. Lets sort you out!
Oily skin...
First is it all over or just t-zone?
Oily skincan be reduced with prescription Retin A, Retin A Micro Gel, Some people still develop redness, flaking and irritation despite appropriate use of Retin A... It is a strong product...
What I will suggest for you is... Glycolic acid, a popular form of alpha hydroxy acids, Its usually known as --> (AHAs)
It can lift away excessive facial oils and I suggest yu incorporate it into your skin care regimen.... Remember, that glycolic acids, while they do help to exfoliate the skin, It plays more of a role of temporary oil reducer, and help cut through the surface oils and clean out the pores.....Thats what you need Flor.... Especially that you don't suffer from acne... This acid will even out the production of sebum...
mermaid said:Hi Ilk
I wanted to thank you for the tip - Laura Mercier rocks! I was upset at first because I let the girl coerce me into buying what I thought was colour too dark for my skin (oil free tinted moisturiser in nude, camouflage no 3 and translucent loose powder), I suck at speaking my mind at the time, BUT at home and wearing it now, it truly is FLAWLESS. And not too dark at all, it just soaks into my skin. I'm even using the right brush and sponge.
So once again - THANK YOU!
(I'll have to try Nars blush another time - ran out of cash)
florencia said:
Sassy69 said:
Ilk said:Something like this Sassy, When having it up
Or
extension clipped in the back... That would look great...
Sassy69 said:
LuluDeren said:Congratulations Florencia! Beautiful pics as expected
Gorgeous Ilk:
Can you recommend a makeup palette which would translate well into B/W portraiture? Tanky much, Ilk!
LuluDeren said:ILK!!! You are amazing
Thank you so much for your response...and for this thread of yours. What you have offered me, and the forum, is priceless.
Goddess, Goddess, Goddess.
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