How in the hell can this BE????

[JKurz1]

I swear I gotta be over 3,000 cals...easy........can anyone see where I flubbed?
PROTEIN CARBS FAT CALORIES
6am
1 C Egg Whites 25 3 0.5 122
1 Whole Egg 6 1 5 75
3/4 cup dry Oatmeal or Oat Bram 9 43 5 220
1/2 cup skim and 1/2 scoop whey 17 1 2 75
57 48 12.5 492
9am
1 Scoops Complete Whey 22 3 3 125
1 scoop Muscle Milk 18 6 18 174
2 C Skim Milk 16 6 0 90
SHOULD I DO AN APPLE HERE, OATMEAL, OR FATS LIKE UDO,FLAX, ETC.
56 15 21 389
12pm
6 oz cooked beef or chx 43 0 5 230
5OZ YAM 1 25 3 130
Large SIZE SALAD VEGGIES 2 30 2 225
46 55 10 585
2:45 PM
6 oz chicken or tuna 43 0 5 230
1 cup brown rice cooked/Quinoa 5 45 2 215
veggies 2 25 1 175
50 70 8 620
TRAIN FROM 5:30-7:00

7:30 Shake
1 cup skim 8 3 0 45
1.5 scoops whey 37 3 4 185
oats orequivalent carb source 6 30 3 150
SPLENDA, with a few berries 0 15 0 150
51 51 7 530
9:30 RIGHT BEFORE BED
SHAKE
1 scoop muscle milk 18 6 18 174
1 cup egg whtes 25 3 0.5 122
celery, cottage cheese, veggies 10 20 1 125
53 29 19.5 421
262 217 71 2507
4 4 9
1048 868 639
42% 35% 25%

 

[sublime35]

I swear I gotta be over 3,000 cals...easy........can anyone see where I flubbed?
PROTEIN CARBS FAT CALORIES
6am
1 C Egg Whites 25 3 0.5 122
1 Whole Egg 6 1 5 75
3/4 cup dry Oatmeal or Oat Bram 9 43 5 220
1/2 cup skim and 1/2 scoop whey 17 1 2 75
57 48 12.5 492
9am
1 Scoops Complete Whey 22 3 3 125
1 scoop Muscle Milk 18 6 18 174
2 C Skim Milk 16 6 0 90
SHOULD I DO AN APPLE HERE, OATMEAL, OR FATS LIKE UDO,FLAX, ETC.
56 15 21 389
12pm
6 oz cooked beef or chx 43 0 5 230
5OZ YAM 1 25 3 130
Large SIZE SALAD VEGGIES (what kind of salad and veggies has 225 cals? Plus those macros don't add up. 32g of c and p. = 128 cals + 2g f= 136 cals 2 30 2 225
46 55 10 585
2:45 PM
6 oz chicken or tuna 43 0 5 230
1 cup brown rice cooked/Quinoa 5 45 2 215
veggies szme here as above. macroes dont add up. should be 115 cals but still why are you eating 115 cals of veggies? 2 25 1 175
50 70 8 620
TRAIN FROM 5:30-7:00

7:30 Shake
1 cup skim (what kind of milk is this? my skim has 13c and 8 protein and ~85cals per cup. 8 3 0 45
1.5 scoops whey 37 3 4 185
oats orequivalent carb source 6 30 3 150
SPLENDA, with a few berries (15g carbs isn't 150 cals. its 60.) 0 15 0 150
51 51 7 530
9:30 RIGHT BEFORE BED
SHAKE
1 scoop muscle milk (these don't add up, they should be 258 cals? 18 6 18 174
1 cup egg whtes 25 3 0.5 122
celery, cottage cheese, veggies 10 20 1 125
53 29 19.5 421
262 217 71 2507
4 4 9
1048 868 639
42% 35% 25%

From what I see you're only about 160 cals off, but I didn't check everything, just the ones that jumped out at me.

 

[JKurz1]

no way i could get in another 1,000+ cals...........

 

[sublime35]

Just gotta suck it up and eat. Simple things you could do, are: make your oats w/ milk instead of drinking the milk and whey together, get bigger sweet potatos, (5oz. is tiny). That's really not a lot of food. Let me copy my diet again and put the amounts of food in there

Eggwhites 120 30 0 0 1(10 large, I count my egg whites as 3g prot each.)
flax 40 0 4.5 0
Oats 465 15 9 81 1.5c. oats

workout- drink milk during.
milk 85 8 0 13 1c.

Oats 465 15 9 81 1.5c
Whey 140 34 0 1
milk 85 8 0 13 1c

g. beef 160 22 8 0 4oz raw
pasta 514 18.6 1.3 104 1 1/3 c raw or ill have 22 oz sweet potato to equal it
veggies 20 1 0 4 1c.
oil 60 0 6.75 0
t.sauce 55 2 0 12 1c, if i have pasta, if not i'll move it to the next meal and have pasta there

chicken 100 24 0.5 0
red b. and rice 480 13.5 2.75 104 1/2 c rice, raw. 1 cup beans (or ill have enough pasta to equal it, which is any where from 1 1/3 cup to 3 cups raw, depending on type of pasta and I'll it in the 1c. of tomato sauce.
veggies 20 1 0 4 1c.
oil 80 0 9 0

Chicken 100 24 0.5 0 4oz raw
Oats 395 12.5 8.5 67 1.25 c.
Olive Oil 20 0 2.25 0

Cottage Cheese 255 42 4.5 12 1.5 cups
Natty PB 200 8 16 6 2 TLBS

3859 278.6 82.55 502
1114.4 742.95 2008 3865.35
0.288779477 0.19252397 0.520342058

thats about 3860 cals 278.6g prot., 82.55g fat, 502 g carbs

 

[JKurz1]

stats?? How about on off days?

 

[sublime35]

stats?? How about on off days?

155 now about 11-12%. About the same on off days but about 100 less cals with a little less carbs. but not much less.

 

[JKurz1]

thats a ton of food for a 155lb'er....congrats.....any cardio? Thats my probelm....daily am cardio, even light bike, its killing me

 

[sublime35]

yeah i do 30 mins med. int. 3x a week. Nothing crazy, just so I get some activity on days off other than my job.

 

[view]

thats a ton of food for a 155lb'er....congrats.....any cardio? Thats my probelm....daily am cardio, even light bike, its killing me

honestly. I am sick and fucking tired of reading your posts.

You complain that you can't gain shit for wieght but you do cardio in the AM daily and train with weights 6 x week. if you are going to do that you better be pounding 4500 cals a day back. and even then it just spells overtraining and getting rundown.

cut back to training 3 days a week (5x5 style preferably). and maybe do 30 mins of light cardio on the other days.... for the love of god, listen!

 

[cmdubs]

honestly. I am sick and fucking tired of reading your posts.

You complain that you can't gain shit for wieght but you do cardio in the AM daily and train with weights 6 x week. if you are going to do that you better be pounding 4500 cals a day back. and even then it just spells overtraining and getting rundown.

cut back to training 3 days a week (5x5 style preferably). and maybe do 30 mins of light cardio on the other days.... for the love of god, listen!

best post ever

 

[harbinator]

honestly. I am sick and fucking tired of reading your posts.

You complain that you can't gain shit for wieght but you do cardio in the AM daily and train with weights 6 x week. if you are going to do that you better be pounding 4500 cals a day back. and even then it just spells overtraining and getting rundown.

cut back to training 3 days a week (5x5 style preferably). and maybe do 30 mins of light cardio on the other days.... for the love of god, listen!

I agree man, if you want to bulk you don't have to eat 100% clean, cheat man! You obviously eat clean the rest of the year and can cut the fat back off. Quit being so addicted to having your abs year round.

 

[jmt24]

it seems like you guys are takin in between 40 and 60 grams of protein with each meal. I thought your body can only digest around 25g at a time. Am i misimformed?

 

[sublime35]

it seems like you guys are takin in between 40 and 60 grams of protein with each meal. I thought your body can only digest around 25g at a time. Am i misimformed?

yes. Your food travels through your small instestines for about 10hrs which is where the nutrients are absorbed. your body will digest about all of what you give it.

 

[JKurz1]

its called nervousa anorexia and I'm battling it big time...............thats why I need your help!

 

[Ish]

How much do you weight now, Jkurz?

 

[JKurz1]

165

 

[sublime35]

its called nervousa anorexia and I'm battling it big time...............thats why I need your help!

I know it's hard, trust me, I KNOW. But the only way to make any progess w/ beating it, is just eating. At first I would eat almost only oats as my carb source then as time went on I added different things. i.e. potatoes, rice. Your diet is fine, and if you feel comfortable w/ it, then go ahead. You can tweak adjust and bcome less anal as time goes on. that's what I did any ways. I eat clean all the time, as do you, and if that helps you, then keep on doing it, but you have to start actually eating more, if you want to beat this.

 

[Ish]

You are trying to bulk, right? 2500 calories working out 6x a week isn't even supposed to hit your daily needs. Can you get it to 3500 calories? That should make you gain some weight. How about on meal 5 you eat 8 oz of red meat instead of egg whites. That would add 500+ calories right there. And do you have something before workout that isn't listed? Maybe a shake and a pemmican bar? That's easily 600 calories there too, while being clean.

 

[JKurz1]

Thanks boys......this is the problem with my current diet...It's the one Ive been following for 2 years with maybe an additional 500 cals. Just never knew I was under maintence till I spelled it out..........SO, now that my cardio is down to 3x a week MAX, low intensity (aside from walking the dog), I need to bump the calories - should I keep adding ounces to each meal? Should I have a daily cheat meal? Subway is next door....should I add in a sub daily? You tell me....here's what today looks like:
how would you change up my meals or, add on to them to add on the lean mass.......as of 10:40am, I've had.......

1/2 cup rolled oats
1/2 cup skim
1 cup of egg whites
15 bluebverries (pancakes!)

then I had 1+ cup of dry curd cottage cheese
10 almonds and maybe 6-8 peanuts.........coffee.

for lunch, in a hour+
I got:
5oz yam
5oz cooked chicken breast
huge salad, with all kinds of veggies, some beans, etc......sf jello

then my pretraining meal with be
a can of tuna
some green beans
1/2 cup cooked quinoa (rice), few beans (chilli)

TRAIN

I finish training at 6:15.........would like to get in two meals before bed at 9pm, possible?

 

[sublime35]

Thanks boys......this is the problem with my current diet...It's the one Ive been following for 2 years with maybe an additional 500 cals. Just never knew I was under maintence till I spelled it out..........SO, now that my cardio is down to 3x a week MAX, low intensity (aside from walking the dog), I need to bump the calories - should I keep adding ounces to each meal? Should I have a daily cheat meal? Subway is next door....should I add in a sub daily? You tell me....here's what today looks like:
how would you change up my meals or, add on to them to add on the lean mass.......as of 10:40am, I've had.......

1/2 cup rolled oats
1/2 cup skim
1 cup of egg whites
15 bluebverries (pancakes!)

then I had 1+ cup of dry curd cottage cheese
10 almonds and maybe 6-8 peanuts.........coffee.

for lunch, in a hour+
I got:
5oz yam
5oz cooked chicken breast
huge salad, with all kinds of veggies, some beans, etc......sf jello

then my pretraining meal with be
a can of tuna
some green beans
1/2 cup cooked quinoa (rice), few beans (chilli)

TRAIN

I finish training at 6:15.........would like to get in two meals before bed at 9pm, possible?

if you want to get another two meals then go for it. or just up your amout of sw. potatoes and quinoa earlier in the day and just have a pwo shake and 1 meal. That's up to you. You certainly need more cals tho. I know it feels like when you eat past being full and you're stuffed, you think, oh god, i'm gunna gain fat! you gotta get passed that, if you have that problem, but I know I did.

 

[JKurz1]

oh, and BTW - last night was the final straw with me....I get out of the shower, sure I look diced, but I was so fed up with the sunken cheaks, rib cage, and tipping the scales barely at 169, with NO APPETITE.........I just got done training back, deads, rows, etc......trained hard (but weak) and all I could get in was 2 scoops of whey a 2 rice cakes (totally a whopping 70 cals for both of them, + the 250 for the shake)..........I knew I'd get my muscle milk shake in prebed, but it would be forced to........so, I called an old buddy and told him I need a small baggie......the green herb......something I havent done for many years and frowned on it....but I got it today, so I'm gonna go train around 5pm....have my shake and rice cakes.....then smoke a little J so I can EAT, for once......bad idea?????

 

[TheMesonator]

Just becareful of having to rely on that. If it just helps you get started eating better (maybe stretch out that stomach for the night or so) then that's not going to kill you. But don't let it become a habit where it'll start affecting other things (like drive and desire to accomplish your goals).

Also, remember that you don't always have to be perfect. You can eat something bad occasionally too.