How do you stand on Anadrol?

[Killler]

Like the title says....

I have never done AAS or PH before.


I am 29 years old,have been training for 12 years.

I have an extensive training experience.

I am very strong and I lift heavy(400 lb bench for example).


I do have some mass but I lack the monster mass I have always fantasized about,which I will off course,never gain naturally.


Anyway,I was thinking of doing short,3-4 weeks dbol or abomb cycles,with a very small amount of test off course for a base.

These would be a few all-I-can-grab-and-steal and keep-as-much-of-it I can cycles.Robbery style.



I don`t like the idea of long injectable cycles (test for example) as I believe the longer I stay on,the suppression will be greater and the potential for me liking it too much and not wanting to ever get off.


What do you think?

 

[NegroPops]

i think it is a good kick start to a bulking cycle because it will put a GREAT deal of size and strength on you in a very short time, so when the other compounds you are using start to peak, you are already pushing more weight then you usually do. it can be very harsh as well so proper support is a must.

I wouldn't run it by itself though, once you come off of it, you will lose a lot of what you put on. DBol or TBol would be a better option for this.

 

[Killler]

i think it is a good kick start to a bulking cycle because it will put a GREAT deal of size and strength on you in a very short time, so when the other compounds you are using start to peak, you are already pushing more weight then you usually do. it can be very harsh as well so proper support is a must.

I wouldn't run it by itself though, once you come off of it, you will lose a lot of what you put on. DBol or TBol would be a better option for this.

Dbol is also on option for me.

I would run a tiny test base also in any case.

 

[bigbassturd]

What ester test?

 

[Killler]

What ester test?

Enanthate I guess. I was thinking 100 mg per week the first 3 weeks of 4 week cycle. Shots day 1,8,15. Day 29-30 pct starts. How long should Clomid PCT be for a short cycle like this?

 

[NegroPops]

there would be no reason for that, that is basically a TRT dose, and it will take a few weeks for enanthate to get your blood level up and steady, so by the time they are, you will be in PCT.

 

[Nelson Montana]

The reason Anadrol came in a 50 mg tab was because it's weak. People think it's strong because that high of a dosage will increase water weight and strength. But 50 mgs of Dbol is far more powerful -- if it's real dbol.

 

[Killler]

there would be no reason for that, that is basically a TRT dose, and it will take a few weeks for enanthate to get your blood level up and steady, so by the time they are, you will be in PCT.

Interesting! What ester would be better then? The reason I chose enanthate was because I can get it in the pharmacies here,and cheap too.They also carry Andriol capsules. But I'll get Cypionate or other from a dealer if necessary.

 

[Killler]

The reason Anadrol came in a 50 mg tab was because it's weak. People think it's strong because that high of a dosage will increase water weight and strength. But 50 mgs of Dbol is far more powerful -- if it's real dbol.

Good good good! It did sound strange to me that they use 150 mg per day minimum medically. Also,everyone seems to prefer dbol. So Nelson,you prefer Dbol for sheer mass gain? Which one would allow you to keep more gains-dbol or abomb? Also,which one hurts the liver more? At what dose should I run the dbol? I prefer smaller doses for any medication or supplement I take. I tend to respond to light dosing.

 

[NegroPops]

Cypionate is basically the same length ester as Enanthate. The best option would be Test Prop, but you would have to pin that at least EOD. The pip isn't as bad as what some people say, but still isn't the greatest feeling in the world. Wouldn't advice a beginner to use prop at all though. Maybe Test Sustanon, 1 shot a week at 250 mg for the first few weeks, it has a mix of short, medium and long esters. That may work well for what you are shooting for.

 

[Killler]

Cypionate is basically the same length ester as Enanthate. The best option would be Test Prop, but you would have to pin that at least EOD. The pip isn't as bad as what some people say, but still isn't the greatest feeling in the world. Wouldn't advice a beginner to use prop at all though. Maybe Test Sustanon, 1 shot a week at 250 mg for the first few weeks, it has a mix of short, medium and long esters. That may work well for what you are shooting for.

In that case I would probably go with Sustanon. Thanks man! btw what do you think about Andriol capsules,just for the purpose of creating a test base? I know they are weak but I wouldn't have to inject. After all,I don't want to turn this into a test cycle,just to keep normal range levels while on the orals!

 

[NegroPops]

i don't know a lot about it. Since it is an oral, you may want to check and see how toxic it is. May not be a good fit with Anadrol or Dianabol

 

[Killler]

i don't know a lot about it. Since it is an oral, you may want to check and see how toxic it is. May not be a good fit with Anadrol or Dianabol

Not at all liver toxic.Not methylated nor alkylated.None.Not good for steroid cycles but mainly used for TRT(which would be just what I need here).

 

[ceo]

fuck andriol. And Cyp is not the same as enanth. Test Enanthate has a 4.5 day half-life and Test Cypionate has an 8 day half-life. If you get enanthate, shoot it every 4 days. Cyp is your every 7-8 days injectable ester. 200mg would probably put you in the high-normal range. 250mg would probably put you high to above normal range, and 300mg should put you above the normal range.

If you're going to do it and you're looking for size and a nice addition to your anadrol, you might as well shoot 500mg/week of test and make it a cycle. 100mg of anadrol a day, split into 50mg doses, twice daily would do you nicely with 500mg/test a week. You should shoot up a good 15 pounds or so in the first 2 weeks on that anadrol dose, and get strong as hell. Helps with heavy lifting too due to the water retention adding extra lube/cushion to the joints.

 

[Killler]

fuck andriol. And Cyp is not the same as enanth. Test Enanthate has a 4.5 day half-life and Test Cypionate has an 8 day half-life. If you get enanthate, shoot it every 4 days. Cyp is your every 7-8 days injectable ester. 200mg would probably put you in the high-normal range. 250mg would probably put you high to above normal range, and 300mg should put you above the normal range.

If you're going to do it and you're looking for size and a nice addition to your anadrol, you might as well shoot 500mg/week of test and make it a cycle. 100mg of anadrol a day, split into 50mg doses, twice daily would do you nicely with 500mg/test a week. You should shoot up a good 15 pounds or so in the first 2 weeks on that anadrol dose, and get strong as hell. Helps with heavy lifting too due to the water retention adding extra lube/cushion to the joints.

Sounds so great.Are we still talking only 4 week cycle ceo?

 

[Mc32]

Test isn't going to do much for you or only 4 weeks especially ethanate. Run it a full 12 weeks. Why even cycle if your not going to get the most you can out of it. It's not going to be easy to keep alot of 4 week blast gains. Test will help solidify them wks 4-12

 

[Jbranken]

Forget about the andriol. I've used it. It's bioavailability is shit when it's all said and done. Very expensive and has to be taken at rediculous doses to get any effect and your test levels still won't be anywhere near where you need to be for an aas cycle

 

[Jack steel]

Cypionate is basically the same length ester as Enanthate. The best option would be Test Prop, but you would have to pin that at least EOD. The pip isn't as bad as what some people say, but still isn't the greatest feeling in the world. Wouldn't advice a beginner to use prop at all though. Maybe Test Sustanon, 1 shot a week at 250 mg for the first few weeks, it has a mix of short, medium and long esters. That may work well for what you are shooting for.

Sustanon stays in the system waaaay longer than cypionate. That's going the wrong direction bro. Hit prop or front load some enanthate maybe?? Never front loaded that much but if yu don't want to do prop then that's what I would do, or just lengthen the cycle a bit.

 

[ceo]

Sounds so great.Are we still talking only 4 week cycle ceo?

In this scenario I would run the Test E no less than 8-10 weeks. The Anadrol can be used for the first 3-4 weeks.