How do you minimize injection pain?

[solidspine]

Currently just doing 500mg per week of Test E.
250mg/ml or 2 cc's per week.


The injections are so painful, they remind me of T-300 or T-400


What are some of the recommendations you guys have found helpful to minimize the pain associated with injections.






I thank you, my little glutes thank you and my soon to be huge delts thank you,
Oh yes, happy Thanksgiving.

 

[needtogetaas]

take a hot shower before you inject.

 

[solidspine]

Thanks,

 

[solidspine]

^^^

 

[OMEGA]

ditch the Test E my son use Sus with a 25 Gau.

1 cc twice a week

 

[gee brown]

massage your muscle after injecting and alot of people here use heat pads. but your muscles will get use to it and will become less painfull.

 

[210toosmall]

after you draw wrap the syringe in a heat pad on low go take a hot shower then shoot the warmed gear

 

[Stryker1992]

Currently just doing 500mg per week of Test E.
250mg/ml or 2 cc's per week.


The injections are so painful, they remind me of T-300 or T-400


What are some of the recommendations you guys have found helpful to minimize the pain associated with injections.






I thank you, my little glutes thank you and my soon to be huge delts thank you,
Oh yes, happy Thanksgiving.

Baking the gear. Bro what brand of test E? I do not recall ever having issues with test E and pain before???????

 

[solidspine]

I have not had problems with Test E at 250mg/ml before either.

It is Chemco Labs.


So Baking the Gear. What specifically do you Recommend?




So baking the gear,


What specifically do you recommend?

I hate this nonsense that’s why I get Test E, not T-300 or T-400

 

[elmrod]

iv had no probs wiv test e its sust tha does it 4 me!
try shooting it real slow and i mean slow that works 4 me,good luck

 

[Twoguns]

I am using a 23g for my sus, and I tell you it is hit or miss with the pain. I don't know if it is scar tissue or nerves or what. sometimes it hurts, sometimes it doesn't. I don't know. I am switching to 25 guage next cycle because it is going to be ED injects.

 

[oxymed]

i am currently using the exact same gear.........bake it at 225 for 30 min. .......all the pain will be gone.........and im shooting 4ccs a week of just the test and 4ccs of EQ.

 

[kbrkbr]

Cut it with sterile oil, 50/50. Most sources carry it or you can get grape seed oil from the grocery store and run it through a whatman.

Remember the old ttokkyo 250? I cut even that and felt NO pain. Zero.

 

[ViperHMS]

Cut it with sterile oil, 50/50. Most sources carry it or you can get grape seed oil from the grocery store and run it through a whatman.

Remember the old ttokkyo 250? I cut even that and felt NO pain. Zero.

That is my suggestion also. I almost never get pain from anything and I never do any of the other stuff such as heating up the gear, the 5-10min massage, the shot after the shower, the heating pad. Even with prop I dont have problems most of the time. The time I had the most problems was about a month or two ago and it was with T500. For the hell of it I gave all those things a shot and even tried cutting it with somb b12 that I had and the shots didnt become any better. Best thing to do is cut it with some steril oil. That really sucks that you have pain issues with T250 thats just crazy. Shouldnt happen in my opinion.

 

[solidspine]

i am currently using the exact same gear.........bake it at 225 for 30 min. .......all the pain will be gone.........and im shooting 4ccs a week of just the test and 4ccs of EQ.
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Sterile oil or grape seed oil?

Where are you getting this, I have checked a few sources to no avail,

And will try finding grape seed oil at the grocery store tomorrow.



Oxymed- did you bake the gear in the vial in the oven?


I tried this about 10 years ago and the amp exploded,

my vial is 50ml, like a small soda bottle.


I have to take a 20 minute nap, that turkey is flooring me.


Thanks everyone, may be pm-- ing you later,

 

[oxymed]

Sterile oil or grape seed oil?

Where are you getting this, I have checked a few sources to no avail,

And will try finding grape seed oil at the grocery store tomorrow.



Oxymed- did you bake the gear in the vial in the oven?


I tried this about 10 years ago and the amp exploded,

my vial is 50ml, like a small soda bottle.


I have to take a 20 minute nap, that turkey is flooring me.


Thanks everyone, may be pm-- ing you later,

Yep.......bake it in the oven.....at 225 for 30 min......make sure and put a pin in the stopper befor you put in oven and leave the pin in while it cools down.....mine are the 50ml vials also.........dont worry about cutting it with other oil.......just bake it.......i seem to be sensitive to UG gear ....but after i bake it no more pain.

I had the same problem with BD gear.......painful shots for days after injection....i bake it and all pain is gone.

 

[missionpossible]

Hey spine,

try www.reasearchlabsupply.com , they carry a large assortment of solvents and oils including cottonseed, sesame, grapeseed, ethyl oleate (supposed to be superior for lack of pain) PEG and walnut.

 

[ViperHMS]

Hey spine,

try www.reasearchlabsupply.com , they carry a large assortment of solvents and oils including cottonseed, sesame, grapeseed, ethyl oleate (supposed to be superior for lack of pain) PEG and walnut.

Thats another good place besides what i just PM'ed you.

For his purpose I think a steril oil is much better than EO, based on cost only. EO is a hell of a lot more expensive that any of the oils. Its like what 4 times the cost for the same amount of oil.

 

[missionpossible]

Thats another good place besides what i just PM'ed you.

For his purpose I think a steril oil is much better than EO, based on cost only. EO is a hell of a lot more expensive that any of the oils. Its like what 4 times the cost for the same amount of oil.

thats true, the EO is pretty pricey and is supposed to be a great choice for prop that has it incorporated into it when made. Its probably overkill/ a waste of $$ in a situation like this though.

 

[thelion2005]

I use the smallest pin possible, even if it takes longer to inject.

Always in the glute meat on the side as I sit down.

I follow with warm shower and hit the injection spot for at least 5 mins.

Result? No pain.

 

[solidspine]

Thanks, again,

I have some sterile oil on order and when everyone leaves the house

I plan to bake some gear,




Good think about turkey and thanksgiving

you get to see everyone, enjoy each other, then right about the time everyone starts fighting, they all fall asleep.

I should go pick their wallets,

 

[gautho]

This is puzzeling, i personally have used Chemco Test Enan 250mg/ml and injected 3cc for a total of 750mg without an oz. of pain.

 

[bigmodean]

I also use Chemco 250,it hurts for a day or 2,big deal,just bump your leg workout until after pain subsides.Glute barely sore for a day.

 

[solidspine]

This is puzzeling, i personally have used Chemco Test Enan 250mg/ml and injected 3cc for a total of 750mg without an oz. of pain.

I am do for an injection, so I will post my results,




I now know how to bake it, and have oil on order,


Normally, I inject after a shower, and I was trained as a nurse in the army so I always maintain sterile technique,

Test E usually just goes in and it is over,


This time, I got a decent lump, and a lot of pain, don’t know how to explain it.

That was last Saturday and today is Thursday and still have the lump and certain amount of pain. Will try something different this time, and post the results.

 

[oxymed]

I am do for an injection, so I will post my results,




I now know how to bake it, and have oil on order,


Normally, I inject after a shower, and I was trained as a nurse in the army so I always maintain sterile technique,

Test E usually just goes in and it is over,


This time, I got a decent lump, and a lot of pain, don’t know how to explain it.

That was last Saturday and today is Thursday and still have the lump and certain amount of pain. Will try something different this time, and post the results.

Just Bake it ..............trust me.

 

[H_T_]

ok, i am having similar problems. i got grapeseed oil, but i think i'm allergic to it, because i am breaking out in a most terrible manner. and secondly, the cyp & eq is making my bp shoot thru the roof.

 

[solidspine]

Just Bake it ..............trust me.

I can just see my wife and her friends (all from China, none born here) looking at me as I clear the oven an stick a vial with a 18 guage needle in and tell them,

Oh I just want to cook this at 225 degrees for 30 minutes or so,

They think I am crazy now,

 

[oxymed]

I can just see my wife and her friends (all from China, none born here) looking at me as I clear the oven an stick a vial with a 18 guage needle in and tell them,

Oh I just want to cook this at 225 degrees for 30 minutes or so,

They think I am crazy now,

LOL.............yeah wait till the guests leave.........use a smaller pin like 23 or 25

 

[solidspine]

Thanks, it should be quiet here in the morning,

I can let it cool and then inject in the afternoon.





I hope this works, I have Sterile oil on order from Florida but that will take a week at least.

 

[bigmodean]

F@#K all that shit.......I'll just shoot it and deal w/ pain for a day or 2,once a week(quad inject)Good luck though.

 

[gettnlarge01]

Heat the vial and cut it with some b-12.

 

[oxymed]

F@#K all that shit.......I'll just shoot it and deal w/ pain for a day or 2,once a week(quad inject)Good luck though.

Good for you!.........why deal with pain if you dont have too?

 

[jeff1971]

I've had some LSP suspension now for a couple of weeks. I tried it and the only way to inject it is through 20, or MAYBE 21 gauge. Doing this on a daily basis is literally a major PAIN IN THE ASS! Anyone have any sugestions to reduce the pain with this? Thanks!

 

[digimon7068]

heat juice before injection. . .inject. . .massage for a few minutes. . .workout immediately. . .start with 15 or 20 minutes on the bike or elliptical to get a good amount of blood to the area. . .still hurts like hell sometimes, though

 

[ortiz34]

I am also usin Chemco test E 250 and all my shots are painless. Although I buy the 10ml vials and not the 50ml jugs. Too much of a sterile risk vs the money saved if you ask me.

 

[digimon7068]

Just Bake it ..............trust me.

with test-e, BA (which is evaporated by baking) is probably not the culprit. . .it's more likely crystals. . .if the mfg doesn't use enough solvent during the mfg process, undissolved crystals will remain. . .you won't see anything but you can tell by the pain. . .it's like injecting broken glass into your muscle. . .one of the hazards of ug stuff

 

[musrat98]

I am using test le 400mg/1ml every saturday, with deca 300mg/1ml a week.
The deca is completely painless but that damn test is killing me.
It takes from sat to wed to get over the pain.
I tried to be smart and do half in the glute and half in the quad, I had two sore spots then.
Using a 23g-1.5" pin.
I've never tried baking before, I think I'll try that.
Once you bake it once thats it right?
I can get sterile oil 10 ml for 5 bucks also.

 

[scoobysgym]

I heat the gear by running under hot water for 2-3 min and it goes in pain free, even prop. I also make it so it does not hurt. - Scooby

 

[ViperHMS]

I am using test le 400mg/1ml every saturday, with deca 300mg/1ml a week.
The deca is completely painless but that damn test is killing me.
It takes from sat to wed to get over the pain.
I tried to be smart and do half in the glute and half in the quad, I had two sore spots then.
Using a 23g-1.5" pin.
I've never tried baking before, I think I'll try that.
Once you bake it once thats it right?
I can get sterile oil 10 ml for 5 bucks also.

Are you mixing your test with deca in the same syringe? If not, you should be, it will help reduce the pain.

 

[solidspine]

I just turned on the oven,


plan on baking some gear at 225 for 30 minutes


Hope I don’t fall asleep,

The only one in the Kitchen is my youngest daughter,

I could walk in there naked with a python strangling me and wouldn’t get her attention. 17, senior in high school,

 

[my_pain]

Bake it like they said .....works for me most of the time. Like twoguns above said "it's a hit and miss". That is the way my primo is. But my Test E is painless......homebrew at 350mg/ML. It's the primo that can kick my tail....sometimes painless most of the time not. Sustanon=pain

Here is a great link that explains some of why we get the pain: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-injections-infections.aspx

I think my primo pain is caused by a sterile abscess (oil based ones such as when many anabolic steroids are not fully absorbed it stays where it was injected and may cause enough irritation to generate a sterile abscess).

Also after I bake it and let it cool in the oven for about 10 minutes, I take it out then draw it up and shoot while still warm inject it very, very slow.... going deep into the muscle. That helps.

 

[solidspine]

Also after I bake it and let it cool in the oven for about 10 minutes, I take it out then draw it up and shoot while still warm inject it very, very slow.... going deep into the muscle. That helps.

Thanks I am going to inject in about one hour.

 

[oxymed]

Thanks I am going to inject in about one hour.

Keep us updated on the pain!

 

[qstorm]

I thought I was the only one going through this.

I am running Test E, by Aburaihan, Sus250 by Xianju Pharm and Deca by BD
My test and sus are in single amps. I normally do two separate shots, 1/2cc of sus,test and deca in both. The first week my ass was in pain for 4days. The next week i went with a 25g pin and hit the glute and the quads, no pain in the ass, pain in the quads. Did some stretching massaging and soak in the tub for an hour. felt better in 2 days.
Tuesday I said F*** it maybe i had just hit a nerve so I put all 3ccs in one syringe and went for the delts. No pain that night, Minor pain the next morning, By the night my delt is swollen like a mother, pain like i couldnt imagine. The pain kept me up all night.
Took some excedrin migrane was good in 15 mins. Bought a heat pad last night. Got no friggin sleep, to top it off left the pipe on to full the tub, while waiting dose off for 2 mins, bathroom and closet under 2" of water. ( 4hrs to vacuum that shit). Swollen has subside, but the pain thats there is good, I keep touching it to feel it (LOL, sick right). My next shot is tomorrow and I am not over this pain yet.
How can I bake mine - I have empty vials, should I shoot all the test e in one and the sus in another or mix them both in one vial and bake them.

Thanks. Sorry for the long thread

 

[solidspine]

Friday after Thanksgiving,


Baked my 50ml Vial of Test E for 35 minutes at 225 degrees

Stuck an 18g needle in the vial. Nothing exploded and no drama,



Took a hot shower (2:00 PM) California time,

And just injected 500mg of cooked Test E into my left glute.

Massaged it and will see what it feels like tomorrow. Last week injected early Saturday and felt it Sunday. That side is Still fricken sore today.

It was about 45 minutes from the time I took it out of the oven until I injected it,

You know yesterday we cooked about 3 Turkeys in that same oven, if I start to grow feathers, I’ll know why.

Alright 2:09, time for my daily one hour nap.


Thanks for all the help. I think. Goble, Goble, Goble.

 

[qstorm]

Did you bake it with the needle in it

Friday after Thanksgiving,


Baked my 50ml Vial of Test E for 35 minutes at 225 degrees

Stuck an 18g needle in the vial. Nothing exploded and no drama,



Took a hot shower (2:00 PM) California time,

And just injected 500mg of cooked Test E into my left glute.

Massaged it and will see what it feels like tomorrow. Last week injected early Saturday and felt it Sunday. That side is Still fricken sore today.

It was about 45 minutes from the time I took it out of the oven until I injected it,

You know yesterday we cooked about 3 Turkeys in that same oven, if I start to grow feathers, I’ll know why.

Alright 2:09, time for my daily one hour nap.


Thanks for all the help. I think. Goble, Goble, Goble.

 

[ortiz34]

Did you bake it with the needle in it

He said he stuck an 18 gauge in it

 

[oxymed]

Did you bake it with the needle in it

Yes.......you have to put a needle through the stopper to vent it or bye bye vial!

 

[solidspine]

Yes, I stuck an 18 guage needle into the vial before I baked the gear.

 

[qstorm]

I only have 25g should I use two of those since I dont have a 18

 

[solidspine]

25 Guage is fine.

 

[oxymed]

25 Guage is fine.

correct..........that is what i use.

 

[qstorm]

correct..........that is what i use.

Thanks I will let you guys know tomorrow

 

[tampatraps]

What is the problem the pain from and injection is about the same as the soreness of a muscle the day after training if trained properly.

 

[T-Matt]

What is the problem the pain from and injection is about the same as the soreness of a muscle the day after training if trained properly.

They can't all be as tough as us in the Tampa/St. Pete area brotha..



T-Matt

 

[qstorm]

What is the problem the pain from and injection is about the same as the soreness of a muscle the day after training if trained properly.

Bro believe me I wish it was. I am talking swelling and as the day goes by its like you watching the gear spread in your muscle and where ever it covers the pain follows.
I can take pain, shit I love pain, the pain right now is good 2 nights ago was brutal. Not even my 2 torn ACLs, broken shoulder and ankles doesn't compare.

 

[T-Matt]

Bro believe me I wish it was. I am talking swelling and as the day goes by its like you watching the gear spread in your muscle and where ever it covers the pain follows.
I can take pain, shit I love pain, the pain right now is good 2 nights ago was brutal. Not even my 2 torn ACLs, broken shoulder and ankles doesn't compare.

In all seriousness though, I know exactly what you need.. As I just eluded to in another post, I tried boldenone propionate once and I was limping for a week, worst pain ever.. Period.. I'm sorry to hear of your pain, it's unfortunate! Hope everything gets better.. Try heating up the area in the shower then massaging it.. If that doesn't work, heat it with a heating paid and try myofascial release with a foam roll..

T-Matt

 

[solidspine]

T-matt, I moved here from St Pete/Tampa, your right we are not as tough,

I hope this baking idea works, will know this time tomorrow,


Have sterile oil on order from your neighborhood.


Has anyone tried baking t-300 or t-400?

 

[c3bodybuilding]

They can't all be as tough as us in the Tampa/St. Pete area brotha..



T-Matt

Same area here brother. The only shots that cripple me are t400. Every week I say "never again!" Then sure enough next week I'm doing it again. As a matter of fact I'm getting ready for an inject now, lol.

 

[qstorm]

Bake and poked already. This time I did the deca/test e in 1 syringe and put the sus in another. I didnt bake the sus, trying to experiment which is the one causing the pain. Poke the deca/test e in the glute, and the sus in the left quad. I felt the sus as it started to move so I have the heating pad on it, so we will see which on starts to pain tomorrow.
Hope tis baking stuff work..keep you guys posted

 

[solidspine]

It is 8:00 AM the day after my afternoon injection of baked gear,


So far feels fine, I still hurt on the other side from my other injection,


Maybe this baking is a good idea,

Why didn’t Betty Crocker ever discuss this, what is her problem

 

[tampatraps]

Bro believe me I wish it was. I am talking swelling and as the day goes by its like you watching the gear spread in your muscle and where ever it covers the pain follows.
I can take pain, shit I love pain, the pain right now is good 2 nights ago was brutal. Not even my 2 torn ACLs, broken shoulder and ankles doesn't compare.

I was just messing with you bro, I remember when I used vet products and swollen quads. always bake vet gear. Thats a good reason to spend a little more and get human grade.

 

[oxymed]

It is 8:00 AM the day after my afternoon injection of baked gear,


So far feels fine, I still hurt on the other side from my other injection,


Maybe this baking is a good idea,

Why didn’t Betty Crocker ever discuss this, what is her problem

Glad to here that there is no more pain.......dont worry there wont be any.
I didnt beleive that Baking would remove the pain either, until i tried it

 

[taste-icles]

sounds dumb but it works. wrap the spot in an icepack for 15mins, the whole area will get numb. poke, and you're done.

 

[Vascular Freak]

do you have to bake it every time? Or just once to sterilize or whatever?

 

[oxymed]

do you have to bake it every time? Or just once to sterilize or whatever?

just once

 

[ViperHMS]

Same area here brother. The only shots that cripple me are t400. Every week I say "never again!" Then sure enough next week I'm doing it again. As a matter of fact I'm getting ready for an inject now, lol.

Ahh, you should try 1 1/2 cc of t500 or hell 1cc of t500. Never again. You said every week, have you tried splitting it up to two times a week. It will help with the discomfort and give you more level blood levels.

 

[doanekw]

Not that It will help now, But for future cycles mix about 200mg of deca in the same needle as your test. Dosent do much for gains, but it totally took care of all the pain I was having from test e. Was worth the $ I spent for a little deca. Cant hurt right

~k

 

[qstorm]

I feel so much better today. NO pain in a$$ after baking. Didn't bake the sus, what a big mistake I can feel the pain coming in slowy but surely. Did some squats and have the heating pad and that seem to help a little. From Now on bake bake bake.
Thank you guys

 

[ViperHMS]

I feel so much better today. NO pain in a$$ after baking. Didn't bake the sus, what a big mistake I can feel the pain coming in slowy but surely. Did some squats and have the heating pad and that seem to help a little. From Now on bake bake bake.
Thank you guys

Why dont you mix all 3 substances in the same syringe? Too many ccs?

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Ahh, you should try 1 1/2 cc of t500 or hell 1cc of t500. Never again. You said every week, have you tried splitting it up to two times a week. It will help with the discomfort and give you more level blood levels.

I'm up to 2 1/2 cc's twice weekly! I'm not even running eq, but I've been using it to cut the t400 with. It has helped a lot. Next time around I am sticking with the ol' trusty t250 or 300. I'd rather be a pincushion than deal with this shit. That's the whole reason I went with the t400, to cut down on so many injects. I think I miss the frequent pokes now, lol.

 

[ViperHMS]

I'm up to 2 1/2 cc's twice weekly! I'm not even running eq, but I've been using it to cut the t400 with. It has helped a lot. Next time around I am sticking with the ol' trusty t250 or 300. I'd rather be a pincushion than deal with this shit. That's the whole reason I went with the t400, to cut down on so many injects. I think I miss the frequent pokes now, lol.

I did it partly for the ability to lessen the ccs injected per week, but mainly price was the driving factor. I think it was like another 10 bucks to jump from 400-500 for the same amount and why not, right. Wrong, lol, very painful and i never made my lazy ass order some steril oil. I just lived with 10 weeks of rotating the pain sites. My ass hurt on one side or the other for the full 10 weeks. Didnt even want to attempt a quad shot. I can deal with glute pain much more than quad pain. With you using the eq to cut is just like using some steril oil. good thing you had the eq to help.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I did it partly for the ability to lessen the ccs injected per week, but mainly price was the driving factor. I think it was like another 10 bucks to jump from 400-500 for the same amount and why not, right. Wrong, lol, very painful and i never made my lazy ass order some steril oil. I just lived with 10 weeks of rotating the pain sites. My ass hurt on one side or the other for the full 10 weeks. Didnt even want to attempt a quad shot. I can deal with glute pain much more than quad pain. With you using the eq to cut is just like using some steril oil. good thing you had the eq to help.

LOL, I'll admit price came into play for me too. The guy I was using only had a few more $ difference between t250 and t400. Less injects, save lot's of money, why not? WRONG! My wallet may not have been hurting, but I sure am.

Have you ever tried any of the t400 or t500's made with eo? I hear they are near painless, but I'd like to hear from actual users before I order any.

 

[ViperHMS]

LOL, I'll admit price came into play for me too. The guy I was using only had a few more $ difference between t250 and t400. Less injects, save lot's of money, why not? WRONG! My wallet may not have been hurting, but I sure am.

Have you ever tried any of the t400 or t500's made with eo? I hear they are near painless, but I'd like to hear from actual users before I order any.

Nope not yet, it should be nearly painless and I would just pick it up and see how it is. Im in a position to be able to do some homebrew, but i'm opting not to use the EO for the cost of EO itself and that I dont know if there may be some allergic reaction I may have to it. I'll just have to buy some premade with eo first. I've done t500 w/out eo and HOLY SHIT. You answer me from my last post are you doing your test shots once a week or twice?? If your not splitting them into twice a week injects you really need to give that a shot because that willl really help you with the pain issue.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Nope not yet, it should be nearly painless and I would just pick it up and see how it is. Im in a position to be able to do some homebrew, but i'm opting not to use the EO for the cost of EO itself and that I dont know if there may be some allergic reaction I may have to it. I'll just have to buy some premade with eo first. I've done t500 w/out eo and HOLY SHIT. You answer me from my last post are you doing your test shots once a week or twice?? If your not splitting them into twice a week injects you really need to give that a shot because that willl really help you with the pain issue.[/QUOTE

I think that's what I will just end up doing. I'll buy it and just see how it goes. As soon as I get it, I will let you know. I also hear with the eo the shots will go through very small gauge pins.

I have been breaking the shots up and it pisses me off that I had to resort to that. It was part of the reason I went with the t400 in the first place. I figured instead of 4-5 injects a week, I could get by with 2 or 3. I'm going to break it down to 4 injects. 1cc of t400, 1/2 cc of eq per inject.

 

[qstorm]

Why dont you mix all 3 substances in the same syringe? Too many ccs?

Thats what I did on Tuesday and still have pain from it. But I will do it on the next poke. I will definitely bake my sus

 

[solidspine]

do you have to bake it every time? Or just once to sterilize or whatever?

I was wondering the same thing,


I am about 30 hours post injection, pain is at least 85% less that the first injection, plus 95% less swelling, so all in all at this point I am calling it a success,


Would it be a waste to bake it again, would it harm the gear?????


My question is if I bake it again would I even minimize more pain?


Yes I read your answer above, just asking again, thanks

 

[c3bodybuilding]

You only need to bake it once. It basically kills off some of the ba when you cook it. So once is all you need.

How is the chemco working out so far for you SS?

 

[solidspine]

How is the chemco working out so far for you SS?

It is Test E and this is simply week 2 so I will be able to give you an answer in about 2-3 weeks.

Now that I have one issue manageable if the gear is good, I have a complete cycle in mind.

Fina
Test E
NPP
Winny
D-bol, I think this will still be from Russia,

 

[solidspine]

Anyway Day 3


This cooking of the gear 225 degrees for 30 minutes is the ticket for painful gear,



My right glute hurts from a week ago, and my left where I injected 2 days ago glute is fine.



Enough said, I am cooking anything that hurts in the future.

 

[dbay]

Good post(s) and info. It was good reading and had a result that helps. Hopefully your Turkey turned out as well as your Test E.

DBAY

 

[c3bodybuilding]

SS, if you do end up using their d-bol let me know how it is. I haven't tried it yet and I am very curious as to how it would stack up to russian dbol. You are just like me, I love the russian dbol and even if I can get ug cheaper, I always go for it!

I'm going to be trying their tren e soon, I'll let you know how that works out.

All their products shoot smooth so far for me, except for the test e, but I had it made in 400mg per ml strength. I too baked mine last night on the advice from Viper. I haven't baked gear since my homebrew days, but like for you, it worked like a charm.

Here's hoping neither one of us has any gear pain issues again! lol

 

[qstorm]

Anyway Day 3


This cooking of the gear 225 degrees for 30 minutes is the ticket for painful gear,



My right glute hurts from a week ago, and my left where I injected 2 days ago glute is fine.



Enough said, I am cooking anything that hurts in the future.

Success to baking.

Amen to that one. Not one pain in the glute from the bake gear. My left delt and left qued is still killing me.
Well the genius who thought of this if you are ever in Miami hit me up, All drinks on me.

Such a nice day for riding, won even chance with this leg

 

[Gumaro]

havent done a cycle in 3-4 years but when i used to use prop i would always inject in the muslce that i was going to workout (usually quads, delts or calves). i think the stretching helped is what minimized the pain

 

[solidspine]

I'm going to be trying their tren e soon, I'll let you know how that works out.

C3


Actually the only thing I probably would get else where is the D-bol, since I like Russian so much.

I think I will get a 50ml vial of the tren also.