How do you get nice round shoulders?

[NY Muscle]

http://www.olympus.net/personal/cablebar/PRESS2.htm
"BNP's [behind the neck press] have been known to cause shoulder problems with some individuals."

Hmm.... I would think someone with such extensive knowledge in the fields of personal training, kinesiology, exercise physiology, etc. would have known the above & never made a suggestion for something even remotely dangerous without diligent attention to safety by mentioning the potential harm of the move.

Personally, I err on the side of caution & don' t do moves that can put stress on my joints IF I can do moves that don't put stress on my joints & still get great results.

I want to post a pic of my shoulders now!

i have 2 thats right 2 torn rotator cuff tendons, YEARS of HEAVY HEAVY behind the neck presses and benching like a freak.
ive told this story many a time.....BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT......bradford presses arent like regular behind the neck, the way the bar moves and that fact that its not a full extension when you press, makes it one of the ONLY exercises I can do now without any pain......now if i was to tell her I did behind the neck press well i would have told her what i tell EVERY client...they are effective but dangerous, not everyone has a problem, but why risk it....

ive met many injured powerlifters and they all suggested bradford presses.....


thanks for checking up on me and pointing out my credentials

 

[NY Muscle]

One more quick ques:

What do you combine shoulders with in your training split, anything?

just shoulders and traps


here is my 4 day split

day 1: chest and bis
day 2: back and tris
day 3: shoulders (delts and traps)
day 4: legs

each bodypart once every 7 days.

 

[Flagirl27]

My training split is as follows:

Mon - Shoulders/Tris
Tues - Back/Hamstrings
Wed - cardio
Thurs - Chest/Bi's
Fri - quads/glutes/calves/traps
Sat - off
Sun - cardio
repeat cycle

For example I do heavy shoulders/ moderate tris and the next week moderate shoulders/ heavy tris. This goes the same for the rest of bodyparts trained only with back and hamstrings I start with the one I am training heavy that week. One week I start with back and the next I start with hamstrings. I like to keep hamstrings seperate from quads because they need some work and I want them to have their own day so they can grow. I also feel that by doing my workouts this way I have adequate time between workouts so that every bodypart really gets hit twice a week though not directly. Does that make sense?

 

[NY Muscle]

Gladiola one more thing.....the weight i use for Bradford presses is not what you would think...super light weight, and I do it at the end of the workout...the bar with just a 25 or 35 on each side.

you ever try these? the sickest pump you will ever get on delts.

 

[ann]

but here is my delt routine

DB press or standing military press
Bradford presses
Arnold presses or some type of machine press

the pec dec/rear delt machine for rear delts
bent over DB rows/delts (if thats wht u call them) for rear delts

cable one-arm laterals/extensions (one arm at a time, keep cable/arm BEHIND your back and raise up and out.

I call your last one, my bitch slappin exercise......bitch slap a tall person first, then turn around and bitch slap a short person next

 

[Gladiola]

just shoulders and traps

OMG, too funny.... I meant that question for Flagirl since she started this thread asking for help on her shoulders.
Hmmm, aren't we thinking about ourselves a bit much?

Flagirl,
I know what you mean about "every bodypart really gets hit twice a week though not directly".

The primary reason I asked was because if you were doing shoulders after back or chest, of course that could impede your gains. I was doing chest/tri & shoulder/bi but my tris weren't getting any stronger & it was ticking me off!!

I posted about it & w6 said my tris were exhausted from my chest workout so they were still getting work - so there was nothing to worry about.
I felt that they needed extra work so I swapped my split to chest/shoulders, bi/tr - so I know I now won't be able to do as much weight on shoulders after doing chest first - but it's OK since my shoulders don' t need as much work as my tris.

 

[NY Muscle]

OMG, too funny.... I meant that question for Flagirl since she started this thread asking for help on her shoulders.
Hmmm, aren't we thinking about ourselves a bit much?

according to my ego, every thread on this board is about me




im jk of course

 

[thin]

I would guesstimate that about 5% of the people I see doing side laterals at the gym are doing it right. Makes nice caps when you do. Of course, there's genetics.

Is there a website where I can find out how to try these (right)

 

[NY Muscle]

Is there a website where I can find out how to try these (right)

try this:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/shoulders.htm

 

[thin]

Thanks!!