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alright guys....ive taken a few cycles before...but im a senior in college (but i have been redshirted twice) i play baseball....i ran a Test E cycle only for about 6 weeks to just give me alil extra push in off season workouts and conditioning we were doing....my coach gave me the heads up and said he has to drug test me for juice within the next week due to our AD's request...ive been off for about 3 weeks....he said they most likely are pricking my finger to draw blood...and or taking a piece of my hair to test...am i completely fucked? or any hope? or is there ANYTHING i can take to possilby skate by this? be clutch guys im freaking out
 
Testosterone Enanthate is detectable for up to 3 months. You maybe in some trouble buddy. Nothing to mask a hair follicle or blood from your finger.
 
Anthony Starks said:
you can't be redshirted twice..
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Transfer and you can.....and yes you are screwed.....I wouldn't take the test if it is not NCAA mandated. Just refuse and let the chips fall. Are you on a full ride? If not double fuck 'em. They want to get rid of you anyway if they are doing a non-mandated test.
 
Yeah, not to bust your bubble, but its going to be detected. During BUD/S a rolled recuite was ratted on, for being on durning his roll off period, which per him, he started a cycle of test E and only did two shots, and then decided it wasnt worth the risk. During our first phase he was called out by our Commanding Officer on the subject. Tested and failed, of course he was booted, but not discharged w/ no chance of returning to BUD/S To this day, I dont know what ever came of him... Poor guy!!!!

This was years ago, but I'm sure the detection times are still the same,lol

If he was caught, I'm sure you will be... Sorry bro!!! Just going off of what I have seen
 
Next time stick to Test Suspension...1-3 day detection time.
 
You actually can redshirt more than once if it is a medical redshirt. Also you are fucked enanthate stays in you way longer than 3 weeks. Sorry bro...
 
Can they really do a finger prick to test a college athelete?? Seems a lot harsher than a piss test and seems like something you could avoid based on health reasons alone. I don't want anyone taking my blood but my doctor, and that seems pretty fair to me. And hair tests are really expensive. Have any of your bros been tested this way?
 
al420 said:
Can they really do a finger prick to test a college athelete?? Seems a lot harsher than a piss test and seems like something you could avoid based on health reasons alone. I don't want anyone taking my blood but my doctor, and that seems pretty fair to me. And hair tests are really expensive. Have any of your bros been tested this way?
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Not if you are playing D1. Your ass is theirs. Whether it is giving up hair, them taking blood, or pissing in front of the trainer, you got to pay to play.
 
see if he is atad dumb in the area of roids...take in a half used bottle of DHEA and say you have been using it because you could buy it over the counter and ask if you can have a few weeks to let it clear your system...who knows maybe he says yes and you get lucky and you skate by in a few weeks with just a high T/E ratio????????? worth a try at this point DHEA may be banned also but if you show him the bottle you got at GNC maybe he gives you a extra few weeks hope its blood not hair shave your head LOL GOOD LUCK
 
I don't agree with most people on this thread.
No way the NCAA is going to pay for hair test first time out. They will test your ratio first to see if you are a suspect. That test is cheap. Then if it looks like your ratio is off then they will test to see what you're on. Or were on.
If you've been off 3 weeks and you can put it off another week you could beat it. Depending on how much you were using, which you neglected to post.
 
so sounds lik i am fucked...i was redshirted twice...once my freshman year...and then my junior year because i blew my arm out....im not gunna give the name of the school but its a D1 Christian College...so im owned...i was already on probation from the coach and school for pro-hormones so my roomate found some syringes and told the coach and AD...fuckin prick...and its a full ride so i dunno man....it was Test E at around 250-300 mgs a week for only 5 weeks...been off for 3.....but i cant ask for some time cuz after the pro-hormones and now the syrgines he wants to catch me now to see if its tru...so i guess im FUCKED
 
Ulter said:
I don't agree with most people on this thread.
No way the NCAA is going to pay for hair test first time out. They will test your ratio first to see if you are a suspect. That test is cheap. Then if it looks like your ratio is off then they will test to see what you're on. Or were on.
If you've been off 3 weeks and you can put it off another week you could beat it. Depending on how much you were using, which you neglected to post.
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I wouldn't take the test if it is not NCAA mandated. Just refuse and let the chips fall. Are you on a full ride? If not double fuck 'em. They want to get rid of you anyway if they are doing a non-mandated test.

It isn't the NCAA. His school wants to get rid of him.
 
yea i thought so...everyone said 3 months...so F-U-C-K-E-D...and they kinda do wanna get rid of me....they love me as a player for them...but lik i said its a Christian school...and ive broken just about every rule they got twice in 2 years...so they r fed up...i think the AD told the dean and he told him to...now i gotta deal with telling my damn parents im getting kicked off the team and school for juicing...FUCKING GRREEAAATTTT
 
Knights2 said:
so sounds lik i am fucked...i was redshirted twice...once my freshman year...and then my junior year because i blew my arm out....im not gunna give the name of the school but its a D1 Christian College...so im owned...i was already on probation from the coach and school for pro-hormones so my roomate found some syringes and told the coach and AD...fuckin prick...and its a full ride so i dunno man....it was Test E at around 250-300 mgs a week for only 5 weeks...been off for 3.....but i cant ask for some time cuz after the pro-hormones and now the syrgines he wants to catch me now to see if its tru...so i guess im FUCKED
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Sorry bro. Doesn't look to good for you. Especially since your roomate found the syringes. Kinda careless on your part if you ask me. But good luck.
 
Knights2 said:
alright guys....ive taken a few cycles before...but im a senior in college (but i have been redshirted twice) i play baseball....i ran a Test E cycle only for about 6 weeks to just give me alil extra push in off season workouts and conditioning we were doing....my coach gave me the heads up and said he has to drug test me for juice within the next week due to our AD's request...ive been off for about 3 weeks....he said they most likely are pricking my finger to draw blood...and or taking a piece of my hair to test...am i completely fucked? or any hope? or is there ANYTHING i can take to possilby skate by this? be clutch guys im freaking out
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You are going to be fine. Half life of Test-E is 5-7 days so if you have't done anything in three weeks, it should be back to normal. If you want the test to come in lower, here are a few thoughts all of which will drive your testosterone down:

1. Drink alcohol.
2. Get as little sleep as possible per day (<4 hrs/night).
3. Do alot of physical activity (e.g. lifting weights) to put stress onto your system.

There are some more radical approaches but I think these are more safer. I'm surprised that the coach is saying they are going to do a hair sample for AAS as usually taking a hair sample would mean illicit drugs (e.g. narcotics, marijuana, etc.). I've always done testosterone checks through blood. Good luck.
 
Shave your head that solves half of it. Depends on what you juiced with. I heard deca can take many months to get out of your system. Could always also tak the year off but that would suck since it is your last. Either way bro I wish you luck. Can you confide in your coach? Maybe he could help
 
Anthony Starks said:
you can't be redshirted twice..
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1st of all don't post if you have no clue what your talking about. It is fairly common for the ncaa to grant players, who have already been redshirted, an additional redshirt if they have a serious enough injusry and it is early enough in the season. Now to the important part.

I have to agree with ulter on this one guys. I've played and been involved with ncaa programs for quite a few years, I've never even heard of them going with anything other than a urine test for their first test. Honestly, I've never personally seen them go beyond that. Ususally if you pass that your fine if you fail it you pay the price. Unless you appeal it and then you may see a blood test. I can't imagine the ncaa would ever spring for a hair sample unless it was a high profile case. Say they caught the star player from the national champs and he protested the results and it was all over every media source in the country, then they may consider using a hair sample.
 
i am what i am said:
Testosterone Enanthate is detectable for up to 3 months. You maybe in some trouble buddy. Nothing to mask a hair follicle or blood from your finger.
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Exactly and as for a hair sample that shows everything, They are able to determine if you did LSD of our hair sample...All I can say is pray for the best my friend
 
1. Drink alcohol.
2. Get as little sleep as possible per day (<4 hrs/night).
3. Do alot of physical activity (e.g. lifting weights) to put stress onto your system.
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im curious, how would any of these 3 things spead up the elimination of exogenous testosterone from the body? its not like the hormone is being "metabolized" and excreted.
 
^^It wouldn't. It's just bad advice.^^

As far as taking a hair sample -- shave your head, as already suggested. Easy.

And anabolic12 -- you were in BUDS? I was in the program in 1990. Props to you -- never say die!

FS
 
marvelous54 said:
1st of all don't post if you have no clue what your talking about. It is fairly common for the ncaa to grant players, who have already been redshirted, an additional redshirt if they have a serious enough injusry and it is early enough in the season. Now to the important part.

I have to agree with ulter on this one guys. I've played and been involved with ncaa programs for quite a few years, I've never even heard of them going with anything other than a urine test for their first test. Honestly, I've never personally seen them go beyond that. Ususally if you pass that your fine if you fail it you pay the price. Unless you appeal it and then you may see a blood test. I can't imagine the ncaa would ever spring for a hair sample unless it was a high profile case. Say they caught the star player from the national champs and he protested the results and it was all over every media source in the country, then they may consider using a hair sample.
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Not coming off like a jerk, but be-read what the kid said. Later in the thread he admits to already being caught for taking pro-hormones, so this would be a second offense. On top of that, his roomate found syringes that belonged to him. The Dean, the AD, and the coach knows.
 
No prob "i am"! I should have read the rest of the posts but the 2nd post pissed me off so I was responding to it, and then to knights 1st post! Teah with those things taken into consideration it sounds like they don't really want him around and the easy way out is to kick him off for substance abuse. THat way it frees up a schollie with no questions asked.
 
they never actually take the folical, if they just cut hair off your head ,you can get stuff to clean it. tommy chong shampoo strips EVERYTHING out of it. I know this from first hand experiance, though it was not for gear... Good luck, sounds like you are going to need it.
 
Ju|ceMaN said:
they never actually take the folical, if they just cut hair off your head ,you can get stuff to clean it. tommy chong shampoo strips EVERYTHING out of it. I know this from first hand experiance, though it was not for gear... Good luck, sounds like you are going to need it.
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my gf uses ultra clean hair follicle shampoo and she passes everytime..granted its not for AAS.
 
norsemuscle said:
You actually can redshirt more than once if it is a medical redshirt. Also you are fucked enanthate stays in you way longer than 3 weeks. Sorry bro...
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True, not that its relevant... you can redshirt more than twice actually.

I played 4 years D1 ball, and our starting fullback was actually older than 2 of our coaches because he got redshirted 3 times.


Back on the topic of the thread... if its not a piss test, youre pretty much fucked. If its a piss test you might be able to use a urinator... but from what youre saying it sounds like youre just not careful enough man. I mean fuckin fuck... already on probation... cmon man, you gotta be smarter than that. :coffee:
 
marvelous54 said:
No prob "i am"! I should have read the rest of the posts but the 2nd post pissed me off so I was responding to it, and then to knights 1st post! Teah with those things taken into consideration it sounds like they don't really want him around and the easy way out is to kick him off for substance abuse. THat way it frees up a schollie with no questions asked.
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right on bro.
 
bro, I can't recall the NCAA ever doing a hair test and doubt the school is going to pony up the cash for one. The coach is probably trying to get you to panic and come clean. As for the blood I don't know everytime we were tested (football) it was a piss test. Good luck, relax and transferring may not be a bad idea.
 
anabolic12 said:
Yeah, not to bust your bubble, but its going to be detected. During BUD/S a rolled recuite was ratted on, for being on durning his roll off period, which per him, he started a cycle of test E and only did two shots, and then decided it wasnt worth the risk. During our first phase he was called out by our Commanding Officer on the subject. Tested and failed, of course he was booted, but not discharged w/ no chance of returning to BUD/S To this day, I dont know what ever came of him... Poor guy!!!!

This was years ago, but I'm sure the detection times are still the same,lol

If he was caught, I'm sure you will be... Sorry bro!!! Just going off of what I have seen
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funny, because once you get to the teams you can juice all you want with no worries
 
plex1500 said:
see if he is atad dumb in the area of roids...take in a half used bottle of DHEA and say you have been using it because you could buy it over the counter and ask if you can have a few weeks to let it clear your system...who knows maybe he says yes and you get lucky and you skate by in a few weeks with just a high T/E ratio????????? worth a try at this point DHEA may be banned also but if you show him the bottle you got at GNC maybe he gives you a extra few weeks hope its blood not hair shave your head LOL GOOD LUCK
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Nope, you are supposed to know the rules, if it is on the banned list, as it is, you cannot use it as an excuse
 
shave youre head and hole body with a bic.take a fucken bath in some nare.then tell them you are a jahovas witness and its against youre relligon to give blood.
 
if they piss test all you have to do is load up for a few days with creatine, which boosts your creatinine levels once metabolised, which is how they test the dilution of urine, then once loaded up drink about 1/2- 3/4 gallon of water within an hour of the test, it shows clean AND non dilluted. this may be marked as bs, but i have done it to pass drug tests mandated by the government :)
 
if they piss test all you have to do is load up for a few days with creatine, which boosts your creatinine levels once metabolised, which is how they test the dilution of urine, then once loaded up drink about 1/2- 3/4 gallon of water within an hour of the test, it shows clean AND non dilluted. this may be marked as bs, but i have done it to pass drug tests mandated by the government
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this would do nothing to affect the reading of aas in your system. its a dilution method that would read as diluted which is just as bad as failing in most cases and you cant dilute for an aas test. wont change a thing.
 
timtim said:
this would do nothing to affect the reading of aas in your system. its a dilution method that would read as diluted which is just as bad as failing in most cases and you cant dilute for an aas test. wont change a thing.
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no it is not, because the levels of creatinine ion your urine is what they gauge dillution from. diluting after boosting the hell out of your creatinine levels works... i KNOW, I DO IT EVERY 3 MONTHS.
 
if you have aas in your system it wont do a thing. come on, dont you think mike gatlin, floyd landis, and the rest of those caught would have known to do what your suggesting?

creatine does not mask aas. i dont care what you do. one has nothing to do with the other.
 
ego boner said:
no it is not, because the levels of creatinine ion your urine is what they gauge dillution from. diluting after boosting the hell out of your creatinine levels works... i KNOW, I DO IT EVERY 3 MONTHS.
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creatine is a banned substance and wouldn't have done him any good testing positive for that.
 
I am not saying creatine will mask aas. They test your CREATININE levels in your urine for dilution, you can boost these levelsby eating 4-5 times the normal amounts of creatine which takes a few days to be metabolised into CREATININE. and dilute your urine by drinking a LOT of water, creatine is metabolised into CREATININE.... like i said, i do this every three months for the damn government and have always tested clean for EVERYTHING.... It will show non dilluted because of the creatinine levels present, but it will actually be dilluted and you WILL test clean.
 
shave your whold body, get a brazillian wax and lather some veet on ya, then give blood to charter bloodcare and everyother blood donation place you can then ask for a transfusion some where after cutting yourself.

ha!

goodluck
 
I think your only hope is to stall until you are clean. Get a laywer to file suit against illegalsearch and Seizure. You don't have to win the case only post pone the test until your clear. It will cost money but how much is your education worth??? Come completely cleanwith the lawyer. I would call Rick Colins Esq. Tomorrow and see what he says. If you can get another week you might be OK. But don't say anuthing untill you talk with Rick Colins. I think he is the only person that can save your ass, All you need is a couple of weeks delay and you will be cool. They are using the system against you just use it back agaisnt them. Talk about paininting the roommate as the problem but also tell them how much you forgive him.

You might not get to play ball again but you should still keep you scohlarship. More important anyhow. And if Colilins is real good he might get them to pay for our legal fees. and keep you into ball. Maybe at a diferent school but you will stiil get an education and play ball.

It's hard ball right?? Bean the fuckers before they can get you.

I also strongly urge you to go to conffession. It will go a long way. No shit, saved my ass before. But don't go to a preist at your school. Pick a priest a long way away that doesn't know you. or your school. Tell the priest how scared and sorry you are and beg him for forgiveness. No BS on this man it works better then you know. And it doesn't matter if you are Catholic or not. Just go to confesson.
 
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