Higher deca dose then test

[joeshred]

Hi everyone about to do a cycle of test e ,primobalin and deca.I believe this works best for me as far as dosage and due to my smaller physique. Also,never ran deca before. Anyone run similar dosages??
1-16 test e 250mg @wk
1-12 primo 300mg @wk
Deca 300 mg@wk 1-14
Also caber throughout cycle .
Stats.
44yrs old.
5"8
165lbs

 

[mercury15]

test is too low, you should go at least 500 mg/week

 

[joeshred]

Ive ran test at 500@wk before,had a little excess bloat. This scenario, as long as my body has sufficient test,shouldnt pose a problem with deca. I know almost everyone is an advocate of running test higher than Deca but Ive reasearced some very experienced users that agree with me. Also gonna run some Var as well. Thoughts..

 

[Elvia1023]

It's a different approach but can be highly effective. Everyone responds differently. Deca is a better muscle builder than test imo. Although there are instances when it is the opposite. I have used trt test with 700mg deca before and had great results. Guys often blame deca when using the two for side effects but it's actually the test causing the bloat etc. I would try it out and see how you respond. Some guys simply don't react well to high doses of test (or deca). I will say over time your libido may be negatively impacted. Masteron p is a great addition to a test and deca cycle imo

I need to add I think some guys forget that most of the great physiques of the 70's were built using deca, dbol and primo

 

[joeshred]

Thanks for the advice and you opinion. I was actually up in the air about using primo or mast...still not sure?? Both are good compounds but i think i may happier with the Mast. As for the deca and libido,thats one of my MAJOR concerns.{really why i havent run deca.} But i believe i will be safe as long as have the caber throughout. Guess once i start the deca, theres no going back,as far as negative affect on libido. {read some real horror stories}

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I think deca dick is related directly to the deca dose and the test dose will have no effect...

I have had people use 2000 mg with 400mg deca and can't get an erection, and I know guys been on a gram of deca with 300mg test and they are smashing pussy....

Just what I have learned, everyone's body is different, I don't get sides regardless if dose, and some are fortunate.....

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

But 300mg of deca isn't much either... I'd bump it up a tad...

 

[joeshred]

well wanted to take the aspirin before the headache,so to speak. Researched caber, {the main reason people get shut down is the progesterin from the deca even in small doses.} Any thoughts on running caber throughout cycle?

Even considering tren ace instead of deca....but i know it may cause the same sides as deca as far as low or no libido!

 

[robph]

Doses are too low brother, a lot of bloat can be avoided by a simply running masteron instead of primo and you won't need an ai ( yes masteron has ai properties), personally I can never run deca above 500 nor run it higher then test,, it will kill my libido,, i can run deca as long as my test is double my deca doses.. i wouldn't run it as stated, just have some extra test laying around in case your libido seizes to exist, I would rather do this
Test e 500-600mgs
Masteron 300-400mgs
deca 400-500mgs

 

[joeshred]

Well. ..ive decided to not run deca at all
Doin primo test and Var. Think ill make some nice clean gains.
Just undecided whether to take var in beginning cycle or toward the end.
Any suggestions? ?

 

[Stackinplates]

U know after reading your post I will throw my 2 cents in ..


I have run tren ace with mast p and test p sex drive through the roof!! Then ran test and tren ace sex drive was there but not as high.. Ran low test high mast... Holy hell sex drive was amazing

Ran low mast high test sex drive was so so....

I recently wanted to run deca .. Had the same concern you did so held off on it and ordered npp.. My doctor said they would prescribe deca for my joints along side with Trt

I figure this if I run npp I can see how I react to the nandrolone compound if I react negative I will throw in mast p to see if it helps with sex drive
Cuz so far that's the sex drive booster for me ...

But have seen many threads on how nandrolone actually causes issues cuz the body does not have enough test to support body function

I believe now after talking to some vets on here and doing my homework and the trial and error over all other compounds I have done on myself that npp and or deca will be a good addition to my Trt

I plan or running

Test p 175 mg week 1-16
Npp 315 1-16

Adex .25 Ed
Caber .5 2xweek


My wife is preg right now has lost sex drive and I figure now is the time for me to test the waters

Shit her hormones are outta wack

So why not throw mine for a loop!!!!!!

Will report back with my results when I start

Will be 4 weeks

 

[Stackinplates]

To answer ur last question


I have run car at start and at the end

I prefer var at the end it seems to keep my gains solid and helps me when I come off and I roll into Trt quite smooth

Now if ur running a long ester cycle I would kick start with it to start to see the gains come but since ur running short esters by 10 days test will have kicked in so the car I would run at the end

I'm currently on the tail end of my cycle and am on my last two weeks of var 60 mg a day

Shin pumps are killer!!!! Ran three miles the other day had to stop 6 times cuz my shins and ankles felt like a hot dog in the microwave that was fixing to bust open!!!!

 

[Stackinplates]

Oops ur running test e!! Just had seen ur original test choice

If ur running long Ester kick start with var

Short Ester finish with it


Just my view

Works well for me !

But do what u want

Trial and error

What works for me might not for you

 

[joeshred]

Well i ended up getting primo. Gonna kick start with var.
Run test low dose @200mg a week. Primo 300 a week.
I know people are gonna say test is too low but more is not always better!
Seems like people just regurgitate what they read on some of these boards. Like u said *and i know this for a fact,
Each individual is different based on a number of things ie,age weight,genetic makeup.
So.....i will keep u guys posted on my cycle which will start in March. Appreciate all the experienced users who have actually done the cycles which ive spoken about.! Thanks.
One last thing ...anyone run caber when not on a 19nor??
Ive read it could be a benefit for even pct or during cycle

 

[mxrider57]

I have to agree exactly with Robph. My last cycle was 500mg of Sust250. 400 mg of deca. seems to be a perfect cycle. if your looking to bulk more just up the deca to 600 mg a week. 400 will keep you lean. this is based on a 200 lb body. so if your body weight is only 165 maybe make some adjustments accordingly. I also am a athlete. Not trying to be the biggest guy in the gym just powerful, explosive, and still flexible on the field. As far as the libido issue goes I have had issues in the past but with this cycle i have been through the roof. I think sust250 helps with libido a little better than straight test so i wouldn't give you a straight promise that test e will do the same. good luck

 

[footdoc]

If you're tying to add muscle then the primo and var wont help too much. For mass test and deca sound like a better combination