HGH - your feedback, results, experiences, etc...

[burnthiscorpse]

You're right, T4 is the one to run. You want the conversion of T4 to T3 to take place...

Yes for a healthy balance ^^^. T3 is what pros take with it to burn fat and insure they will have to take it for life lol.

 

[Getbig11]

What dose of t4 would you recomend using with the gh and when?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

What dose of t4 would you recomend using with the gh and when?

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[goin on 4T]

NO! T4 needs to be run with HGH. NOT T3.

This is a must.

 

[goin on 4T]

my plan is 7 days a week... i work out in the evening so i was planning dosing 2.5 in the morning and 2.5 pwo... my main goals are lean mass, recovery, anti aging (i really love this aspect)...

i have read a lot about t4 but would like to hear the feedback from its usage...

i would also like to eat more without raising body fat... i eat so so picky and not as much as i would prefer... i don't want to eat a lot more but a few hundred calories would be nice... =)

I would go with this since you really don't have any lagging body parts. Sorry for jumping in so late, I have had family issues that have taken most of my mind from me.

What is your diet protocal with respect to pre-workout and post-workout cabs?
I really liked post workout IM also as opposed to subq.
Now remember I am fucking old so I just load the boat in the am. But if I were a young stud like you I would do 2.5IU's in the am subq ED upon wakeing and then I would do 2.5iu's or even 5 Iu's immediately post wo IM. If you going for size strictly size than I would say do the 10iu's 3 x week. its really bad ass!
Please remember this. I feel with long term gh you will need to jump start your natty production. YES, I know I have never ever say this before but in conversations with BTC and on other boards, there has to be some negative results from the added GH. I would run IPAM after you are done with the GH.

 

[ballslee]

hey man, I wanted to say that I would maybe start at a lower dose if i were you. Not that 5IU is a bad dose whatsoever, but the body has to adjust to the doses. I would recommend starting a 3IU and every 2 weeks increasing by .5 IU til you hit your desired dosage. the side effects CAN be horrendous if you start at too high of a dose.

this is the recommended protocol for working to your desired dose, and i would say that it will ensure you are side effect free from the start. and if you start getting side effects that are unbearable, then you know to lower your dose and wait a couple more weeks and then try to increase it again.

 

[goin on 4T]

Rule of thumb is to start at 2ius per day and increase .5ius every two weeks.
Unless running 10ius 3 x per week then there is no ramp up.


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[burnthiscorpse]

I would go with this since you really don't have any lagging body parts. Sorry for jumping in so late, I have had family issues that have taken most of my mind from me.

What is your diet protocal with respect to pre-workout and post-workout cabs?
I really liked post workout IM also as opposed to subq.
Now remember I am fucking old so I just load the boat in the am. But if I were a young stud like you I would do 2.5IU's in the am subq ED upon wakeing and then I would do 2.5iu's or even 5 Iu's immediately post wo IM. If you going for size strictly size than I would say do the 10iu's 3 x week. its really bad ass!
Please remember this. I feel with long term gh you will need to jump start your natty production. YES, I know I have never ever say this before but in conversations with BTC and on other boards, there has to be some negative results from the added GH. I would run IPAM after you are done with the GH.

It's got to vary heavily with age, dose schedule, dose size, duration of use ect. But its obviously the same principal of what happens with your nuts with exogenus test. Not that the pituitary would shrink just that there's obviously suppression. Long term suppression in some can lead to pituitary disease. Mostly from my research this is long term hrt or just heavy abuse. Some argue that 3 on 1 off or 5 on 2 off will aid in not suppressing so much. But I have to believe once its been suppressed , its suppressed. Just like missing two weeks of test e or two days of prop ....your still suppressed even if you skip doses.
The ipam theory is obviously just because it forces your natural GH release. In theory ipam would be like hcg for your pituitary while on . The good thing about ipam is that it doesn't have a saturation point like GhRp 2 or 6. Which are inferior gen 2 peptides imo. With ipam, the bigger the dose, the more of your stored Gh is released. Now obviously if 200 mcg released all your pituitaries stored gh for the morning then 300mcg would not yield more results. So finding the sweet spot for you is key. I can tell you that there is definatley a difference between 100 and 200mcg.
If one were worried about suppression then they could go 3 on 1 off with hgh and use ipam 2x. On your off days. Or you can just run it in conjunction with the hgh.

 

[ballslee]

Rule of thumb is to start at 2ius per day and increase .5ius every two weeks.
Unless running 10ius 3 x per week then there is no ramp up.


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yes ive read this. I just said 3 because some say 2 is pointless. I started at 3 and had no problems...but some friends did have some numbness symptons but not anything unbearable.

either way would be good....but i def would not immediately start at 5 IU


and also, i wouldn't split the dosage until you got to like 4 IU

some have said do 1.5 and 1.5 but I think this is not a good idea until you hit the 4 IU mark. after that you can do twice a day.
I didn't like twice a day because it just sucks to keep up with it, but if you can do it on a constant schedule then by all means.

i like taking 1 day off, because when i have gone extended periods in a row I would start feeling bad. its like the 1 day off rejuvenated my body, and I could start fresh again. I think it is the sleep aspect that caused this for me. I didnt ever sleep well on GH even tho you wake up feeling great and not needing more sleep, the one day helped me feel really great sleeping-wise. Only benefit that may not have medical research to back up

 

[goin on 4T]

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yes ive read this. I just said 3 because some say 2 is pointless. I started at 3 and had no problems...but some friends did have some numbness symptons but not anything unbearable. Sounds good

either way would be good....but i def would not immediately start at 5 IU
Not unless you have done it before for an extended amount of time. I always just start back at 5, fuck I am mess.


and also, i wouldn't split the dosage until you got to like 4 IU
Good job, I forgot that too.

some have said do 1.5 and 1.5 but I think this is not a good idea until you hit the 4 IU mark. after that you can do twice a day.
I didn't like twice a day because it just sucks to keep up with it, but if you can do it on a constant schedule then by all means.I hear that bro

i like taking 1 day off, because when i have gone extended periods in a row I would start feeling bad. its like the 1 day off rejuvenated my body, and I could start fresh again. I think it is the sleep aspect that caused this for me. I didnt ever sleep well on GH even tho you wake up feeling great and not needing more sleep, the one day helped me feel really great sleeping-wise. Only benefit that may not have medical research to back up

I never feel bad until I am off for over a week. I went off for 2 months from Nov-Dec and it really sucked. I wanted to run bloods but I had no coin. Good solid advice here.