Help ?

[Murray12]

done a cyle of cyp and after ending the cycle 6 weeks ago i couldn't get hold of any pct. ( stupid i know but couldn't get anywere !) now about 6/8 weeks after course i have got 2 small lumps in nipples. no gyno signs off pecs looking different just puffy nipples. is it too late for me to run nolvdx to loose these ?


what do people suggest?

 

[Murray12]

want to act asap as lumps have not gone

 

[Jbranken]

You can't be serious. Never cycle without an a.i. or pct on hand. Secondly, why are you going to run dbol with nolva to get rid of gyno? Dbol is going to make it worse. Just stop what you're doing and do some research before you really screw yourself up. Nolva and letro or nolva and aromasin are the combos I would use to combat gyno at this point

 

[Murray12]

running nova won't be enough then ?

 

[Zyglamail]

My suggestion would be stop taking everything your taking and learn what the hell all these drugs do before taking them again.

You should know about the possibility of gyno and how to avoid it. You should know what anti-e's do and how to use them. You should know approxmiate dosages that should be used and then when you are finally knowledgable enough you should only take them when you have EVERYTHING in your possession.

 

[Murray12]

True but not all steroid users are professionals as you seem yourself. you need to learn these things in hand. reason why these forums are there to help.

 

[Zyglamail]

True but not all steroid users are professionals as you seem yourself. you need to learn these things in hand. reason why these forums are there to help.

Ive been at this a long time and know what I know because I took the time to do the research.

Just blindly taking drugs without knowing exactly what they do is just plain stupid and why steroid use gets a bad rap.

Yes, these forums are here to help but that help should be taken advantage of BEFORE you start popping pills and jabbing yourself with needles and even then what you read here (or on any forum) should be further researched for accuracy.

 

[Murray12]

we'll as my thread said . I done one cycle of cyp and couldn't get hold any pct ( yes I'm a mug for not getting that before hand ) BUT i haven't touched nothing yet. my question was asking what people suggest i should do seeing as i have these small lumps and i want them gone. I haven't touched no d.bol or any ant e's because i want some experience advice. like from yourself .
I have done re search into forums etc but after the course which is stupid i know . but want to correct these now. what do you suggest is my question

 

[stevesmi]

step 1 would be to get bloodwork done so we can see what is going on.

 

[Murray12]

I have been to doctors ( in the uk ) and they told me to leave off any medication ( steroids ) and this will reverse in around 3 months. reason of course I'm paranoid is because i don't want to wait and wait and wait for the problem to get worse. Is there no point in running nova ? i have read the approximate dosages etc just wanted to another view on it

 

[Jbranken]

As I mentioned before, do some research on letrozole and nolvadex for reversing gyno. I believe there are some protocols already written up at evolutionary.org. You could also use aromasin in place of letro since it is not as aggressive. It really depends on how far along your gyno is which it sounds relatively new in development. A SERM is only one peice of the puzzle here. Research A.I.'s as well

 

[stevesmi]

your issue could go away or could not .. do you really think that this game is pure black and white? NO its not.. everyone is different.

one dude can run dbol/test/deca and not get gyno.. while someone else can run primo and a little test and he could get gyno which would need surgery..

 

[Murray12]

yeah i get totally what your saying . to be perfectly honest i was looking to do another course but properly soon and because of this small gyno symptom problem its stopping me. I have researched into what people have been saying and am going to tackle these problem before i start any course. don't worry i will have all to hand before i start.

 

[stevesmi]

look if you want to get serious in this game you need to tread carefully because you are gyno prone.

that means constant bloodwork and being aware of the compounds that flare your gyno.

later on if I was you I would consider surgery if you wanted to be a serious bodybuilder but even that isn't always a solution for some guys

also your docs are on to something maybe.. considering letro is a libido killer, you might not like what happens if you resort to using it. BUT I would still consider getting on to atleast something gentle like aromasin to get your estrogen DOWN.. but since you don't have bloodwork we don't know how high your E is.

 

[Redfield11]

Use Nolva and Aromasin, it might help. If not then as the doctor said the lumps will reduce in time. But the number one thing you need to take away from this experience is to not rush into things without knowing what they do first. I would never inject something into me that I don't understand and I definitely wouldn't start a cycle without PCT and AI's in hand. The guys above know their shit, have been doing this for a long time and are probably fed up of reading things like this. BUT, we all make mistakes. Just make sure it doesn't happen again or you'll undoubtedly have far more severe problems that this in the future.

 

[Murray12]

yeah mate i understand . i know these blokes know there shit thats why I thought ill ask. My frame is small and my chest is not of a large one. i haven't seen any dips in my chest or anything but just very very weary . my doctor did say it would go back but i think I'm going to run the nova and aromisin to try and squeesh it quicker. cheers for it all

 

[Redfield11]

No worries mate, chin up. You said that you're in the UK. If you're struggling to bulk up get your arse down to my gym in London and I'll sort you out!

 

[Murray12]

hahah yeah I'm not that far from london . what my story is . I was always that skinny bloke out of my group of mates until april time i started gym up. Its got quite addictive now and thats how i fell into doing the juice in the wrong way ( my own fault really ) I've gained around 2 stone through eating and weight gainers but as soon as i done that cycle i got these small lumps . Making me well paranoid thats why i need to get them gone. But as soon as i sort it ill deffo start the next courses in the correct way having the correct shit with me from when and how i need them !