Help with new cycle!!!!

[Umpa]

This is the new cycle I'll be doing. I have not done any steroids for the past 4 years and the reason I'm using the drugs in this cycle is because i'm a competive athlete and I get drug tested every few months.
Let me know what you think of this cycle.

8 week cycle:
400mg of test propinate a week for 8 weeks.
250mg of Winstrol a week for the first 4 weeks.
25mg a day of anavar for the last 4 weeks.

I hope to gain 20 to 25lbs of this cycle. I'm 170 right now.

 

[Umpa]

Ttt

 

[Outtlaw]

You'll be lucky to get 25lbs from that cycle. 25mg var is nothing, and 35mg of winstrol is almost nothing. I know you're being tested, so you're prob trying to go light, but.... I dont have experience with testing so it's your call. If I were gonna do this cycle, I'd Increase the var to 50mg/day and run it for the entire 8wks, and up the winstrol to 50mg/day. Still dont expect to get 25lbs on that cycle, but gains should be much better than what you have drawn up.

 

[satchboogie]

what outlaw said..

 

[NYBodyguard]

Well id try those first and stick with a good diet

As far as 20-25 lbs id throw the scale away right now and just take pictures in the same lighting once a week and judge by that.

 

[turbogreek]

8 week cycle:
400mg of test propinate a week for 8 weeks.
250mg of Winstrol a week for the first 4 weeks.
25mg a day of anavar for the last 4 weeks.

I hope to gain 20 to 25lbs of this cycle. I'm 170 right now.

like everybody else already stated...i doubt you'll see 25lbs unless there's some fat in there too.

outlaw's advise is on point. i'd go at least 40mg/day var and 50mg/day winny. and make sure your PCT is in check so that you can keep these gains.

if you follow the advise given here and keep the calories high you should see a good 15lbs solid maybe 20.

 

[Umpa]

Whats a PTC??? Sorry for mu ignorance.

Thanksd guys

 

[DIVISION]

Whats a PTC??? Sorry for mu ignorance.

Thanksd guys

OMFGU!!!!!!!!

Do you read the forum at all?


PTC? You mean PCT?

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy





DIV

 

[Umpa]

I'm new to the forum partner, so no, I don't really read the forum all that much since I only sign up last night

But since you're here you can help me out with something, I'm getting HCG and Clomid for my "PTC", anything else I need?

I done a couple of cycle in the past, around 4 and 5 years ago.
I did Anadrol with sutanon and then Test/D-bol.

I had no problems with gyno at all, the only side effect I had was I got more body hair.

any suggestions?

 

[DIVISION]

I'm new to the forum partner, so no, I don't really read the forum all that much since I only sign up last night

But since you're here you can help me out with something, I'm getting HCG and Clomid for my "PTC", anything else I need?

I done a couple of cycle in the past, around 4 and 5 years ago.
I did Anadrol with sutanon and then Test/D-bol.

I had no problems with gyno at all, the only side effect I had was I got more body hair.

any suggestions?

HCG, Clomid, Nolvadex......that's mainly what you'll need.

I feel you on the hair......I feel like a fuckin' ape with all this extra fur....



DIV

 

[blut wump]

I feel like a fuckin' ape with all this extra fur....



DIV

I don't know where you'll find one at this time of day.

 

[Umpa]

I'm not sure I'm right, but don't you take novaldex for gyno only???

thanks

 

[satchboogie]

OMFGU!!!!!!!!

Do you read the forum at all?


PTC? You mean PCT?

PCT = Post Cycle Therapy





DIV

lmao!!!

 

[Umpa]

Here is what I have avaiable to me, so any suggestions on how to cycle this stuff would be great!

40cc of Test. Prop. 100mg/cc
20cc of Winstrol. 50mg/cc
200 Anavar's 5mg/tab

 

[Umpa]

Ttt

 

[Outtlaw]

Here is what I have avaiable to me, so any suggestions on how to cycle this stuff would be great!

40cc of Test. Prop. 100mg/cc
20cc of Winstrol. 50mg/cc
200 Anavar's 5mg/tab

Follow the advice we gave you up top. Im not trying to mathematically split up how much gear you have and put it into a cycle for you (no offense), you can do that yourself. I can tell just by looking that you dont have enough var to run it at a reasonable dose for more than 3-4wks. And it looks like you've got about 5-6wks tops of winstrol. I suggest you get more gear. If you cant, then you just have to use what you have, but expect very minimal results if you run this cycle like you 1st had it drawn up.

 

[ilpadrone]

Here is what I have avaiable to me, so any suggestions on how to cycle this stuff would be great!

40cc of Test. Prop. 100mg/cc
20cc of Winstrol. 50mg/cc
200 Anavar's 5mg/tab

My view on this one:
Here the test.prop/winstrol ratio is not optimal
For the optimal synergetic effect you'll need more anavar and 2 weeks more of winstrol. Since you already said this is all you have I suggest:
*2cc prop every 3 days, for 8 weeks [19x2cc=38cc] - 2cc remain untaken.
*1cc winstrol every other day, last 6 weeks [21cc] - you just miss 1 cc at
the end of your cycle, that's no prob at all.
*8 tabs Anavar/day, last 3 1/2 weeks [8x7x3,5=196]

Jep you got alot of jabbing ahead..

The effect of combining these substances is gaining quality muscles, not a bulk cycle. 20 - 25 solid gain is not possible. But the 10 - 13 that you will, will look awesome hard and you probably will lose quite some fat too.
And how the new muscles look on you is the most important thing here..
Good luck

*If you do It, Do it Good!*

 

[chyllaxyn]

lmao!!!

bahahah word!!
I just look for DIV's posts because I know there's a victim nearby

 

[Umpa]

Thanks for the help bud. I was actually thinking of getting rid of the winny all togheter and just getting another 10 anavars.
One of my friends sugest this:

7 week cycle:

7 Anavars per day.
150mg of Test eod.

My buddy told me Winstrol can damage your Tendons and stuff. I don't know if there is any truth to that or not, but regardless he suggested to just replace the winny with more Var.

thanks

 

[wayneboard1]

I think you need to do some more reading myself. I have been here for almost 4 months, and am STILL trying to get mroe info especially on PCT. From what these vets have shown me and from what other noobs have done, thats where the difference is. Got to the PCT forum and read read READ. I find at least 75% of my questions are answered by just reading and NOT posting. If you still can't find the answer then maybe PM someone, and if you still can't get it answered, THEN post.

 

[wayneboard1]

I forgot to mention, in the PCT forum read the stickies (the posts that stay at the top o that forums page) Especially the ones by Jenetec. That guys knows his stuff. He explains PCT quite well.

 

[DIVISION]

bahahah word!!
I just look for DIV's posts because I know there's a victim nearby

We're all victims sometimes ChiLLAxin'....

When life gives you lemons you break life's face until it begs for mercy!




DIV

 

[Umpa]

Thanks Wayne, i guess i'm being kind of lazy sometimes Its just everyone has a different opion on everything.
I have a good bunch of friends that juice, from amauter bodybuilders to college ball players and other fellow pro fighters and EVERYONE has a different opion about what works and what dosen't. Its fucking killing me!!!!

Thanks again for your patience guys.

umpa

 

[wayneboard1]

Thanks Wayne, i guess i'm being kind of lazy sometimes Its just everyone has a different opion on everything.
I have a good bunch of friends that juice, from amauter bodybuilders to college ball players and other fellow pro fighters and EVERYONE has a different opion about what works and what dosen't. Its fucking killing me!!!!

Thanks again for your patience guys.

umpa

No worries man I feel your pain. Just when I think I have something figured out, I get someone telling me something else different and it gets frustrating. I just keep trying to do my research and hopefully I can piece it all together and get it validated by a vet or mod when I am ready to do so. One thing I found, I am saving info I read that explains things so when I sit down and try and wrap my head around a cycle and PCT I have all my info right there to reread and not have to go looking for it again on here or elsewhere espcecially the Ml and MG thing.....I still don't know how much gear to order!!! I have found if you show you have at least tried to learn about something before asking, the guys on here are really good about helping you out. It's the whole PTC type thing that irritates most vets. Either that or like one PM i got from a brand noob asking me what this
"test" was all about. LOL Frigin idiot. He read just enough to be dangerous. I just told him it was half multiple choice and half essay....odd I never heard from him again.