Help with first cycle

[JerseyJoe]

What's up guys, I'm thinkin about takin a cycle and wanted some feedback. I've been hittin the gym off and on for about a year and really got back into it in April. I know that's not long but I hit a deadend. Haven't changed in weight, body fats going down and I'm losin inches on my arms, back and chest.

Here's what I'm lookin at, keep in mind I've never made one before just been doin alot of readin so please be kind :/

Week 1:
Test = 50mg/every 2nd day total:150mg wk
Deca or Laurabolin = 150mg/weekly
Proviron 25mg = 1 tab/day
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

Week 2:
Test = 100mg/every 2nd day total 300mg wk
Deca or Laurabolin = 300mg/weekly
Win-V = 50mg/day
Proviron 25mg = 1 tab daily
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

Week 3:
Test = 125mg/every 2nd day total 375mg wk
Deca or Laurabolin = 400mg weekly
Win-V = 50mg/day
Proviron 25mg = 1 tab daily
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

Week 4:
Test = 100mg/every 2nd day total 300mg wk
Deca or Laurabolin = 300mg/weekly
Win-V = 50mg/day
Proviron 25mg = 1 tab daily
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

Week 5:
Test = 50mg/every 2nd day total:150mg/wk
Deca or Laurabolin = 150mg/Weekly
Win-V = 50mg/day
Proviron 25mg = 1 tab daily
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

Week 6:
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

Week 7:
Clomid PTC: 1st day 300mg, remainder of week 100mg/day
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

Week 8:
Clomid: 50mg/day
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

Week 9:
Clomid: 50mg/day
HCG: 500IU/day for 7 days
Nolvadex 10mg = 1 tab/day
Glutamine = 7g/day

 

[pappad]

What are your stats:

Age
Height
Weight
BF%

Also what kind of test? I am guessing Cyp or Enth.

You don't need to ramp the test. For your first cycle you could do 250mgs a week for 10-12 weeks and get great results.

Some of the vets will way in more!

 

[JerseyJoe]

sorry about that. I'm 26, 5'10" 185lbs BF -/+ 12-13%.

Test is Propionate

 

[cobracock1979]

Do not take nolva EVER with deca - it will fuck your tits up

 

[sugashane]

Too much for a first cycle. If you react badly to something you won't know what is doing it.
Do testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate- 300 mg EW for 10-12 weeks.
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - 1500 IUs 2x's a week in weeks 6 and 9

For PCT - post cycle therapy - do
1500 IUs 3x's a week for 3 weeks
50 mg ED of Clomid for 4-6 weeks

Should be plenty to recover the "boys" and retain most of the muscle you gain.

All will be worthless with out a great diet and training though. If those aren't dialed in, save your money.

 

[bw1]

Do not take nolva EVER with deca - it will fuck your tits up

+1

 

[Heath1282]

For prop, 50mg ed for 6-8 weeks would be good. start pct day after last shot

 

[JerseyJoe]

thanks guys, I just came back from my doc's he asked why I was thinkin about takin the Deca, Win-V, and Test. He said test is test, if I'm gonna do all that I should just take 1 and incease the dose.

He asked why I would take Proviron or Nolvadex because they are brest cancer durgs, he said somethin like that. He also said that Clomid is for ovulation in women and said he donno y bodybuilders take that.

He said I should just take one test and when I'm ready to come off the drop mt dose 50mg every 2-3 weeks instead of takin that other PCT stuff, any info??

He said if I was goin to take somethin it should be the win-v or deca but it would be a waste of money to take a bunch of the same thing with a diff name.

He was a pro bodybuilder during med school in the late 80's I donno if he used or not but that's his point of view, i seen him today.

Thanks


P.S. I got 7 boxes of Testim 50mg, he said to just take this and save the money, would this have the same effect??? he said I could take 100mg 1 or 2 times a day.

(contains: Testosterone USP 50mg, Pentadecalactone, Carbopol, Acrylates, Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, Polyethylene Glycol, Alcohol, Tromethamine, and Purified Water)

 

[sshadoww]

Too much for a first cycle. If you react badly to something you won't know what is doing it.
Do testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate- 300 mg EW for 10-12 weeks.
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - 1500 IUs 2x's a week in weeks 6 and 9

For PCT - post cycle therapy - do
1500 IUs 3x's a week for 3 weeks
50 mg ED of Clomid for 4-6 weeks

Should be plenty to recover the "boys" and retain most of the muscle you gain.

All will be worthless with out a great diet and training though. If those aren't dialed in, save your money.

Solid advice here...Test only for your cherry cycle...

 

[hardnosepbg]

Listen Bro,

In my opinion, you should first work out for 2 years before you start a cycle of AAS. You have said that you are not gaining anymore. I am willing to bet that you are either not getting at least 8 hours of sleep every night, and/or are simply not eating enough. To gain weight, you MUST consume more calories than your body is burning. However, if you start now you should only do a Test cycle first. Test E or Test C. For a first time cycle you should take 400-500 per week broken up over 2 injections such as Sunday and Thursday. You shouldn't mix AAS your first cycle because if you have a bad reaction to something you will have no idea which AAS you are taking that is causing the bad reactions. You should run this cycle for 10-12 weeks. You should also take some HCG during your cycle, this will cause your boys to keep functioning and producing natural test. Also, when you end your cycle, Nolvadex and Clomid worked just fine for me, but some of these other bros out there might have their own ideas of a better PCT. Do some checking around on this board. There are some great bros here that can help you. Good Luck

 

[hog#head#cheese]

i like your doc

 

[JerseyJoe]

I was also told that ritalin is better to take then clen because it has less sides, any comment on that??

 

[ironcheif1984]

Listen Bro,

In my opinion, you should first work out for 2 years before you start a cycle of AAS. You have said that you are not gaining anymore. I am willing to bet that you are either not getting at least 8 hours of sleep every night, and/or are simply not eating enough. To gain weight, you MUST consume more calories than your body is burning. However, if you start now you should only do a Test cycle first. Test E or Test C. For a first time cycle you should take 400-500 per week broken up over 2 injections such as Sunday and Thursday. You shouldn't mix AAS your first cycle because if you have a bad reaction to something you will have no idea which AAS you are taking that is causing the bad reactions. You should run this cycle for 10-12 weeks. You should also take some HCG during your cycle, this will cause your boys to keep functioning and producing natural test. Also, when you end your cycle, Nolvadex and Clomid worked just fine for me, but some of these other bros out there might have their own ideas of a better PCT. Do some checking around on this board. There are some great bros here that can help you. Good Luck

I agree with you on the training part for 2 years before a cycle but i disagree on what test to use and how much to use. I would say to use some Test prop at 100mgs eod if you not scared to shoot your self so much with the needles this will give you an average of 350mgs ew of Test prop. Also i would think that you would need the hcg during the cycle being it is only 350mgs ew i dont see any reason to go over this dose you dont know insane amounts of gear to get your results and he will get great results with just 250mgs to 350mgs ew of Test IMO. Do have your PCT lined up and have everything on hand before you start your cycle And stick with only one compound for a first cycle the reason i recommend Prop is because its a shorter ester and if he sees that he is having a problem with it he wont have to wait for the longer ester to leave his system. Any of the vets want to correct me on the hcg during a lower dose cycle you can i would like to know exactly what dose you should start to run hcg because i ran a prop cycle at 100 eod and i had no testicular shrinkage at all and i recovered fine with the pct stack from PP.

 

[Pino75]

I was also told that ritalin is better to take then clen because it has less sides, any comment on that??

I think it would be better for Mind Muscle Connection, because it gives you a degree of focus...but it would seem scary taken something like that since its a Pshycoactive medication and also highly addictive...so Ive heard.