Help w pct after anavar cycle

[rage22]

Hey all,

I ran some anavar for 4 weeks at 40mg Ed and jumped off quickly when I saw what it did to my blood pressure. (first timer)

It's now been 3 mths and every blood test I have had has shown 270 test levels and lower. All tests were taken in the morn before 11am (getting one next week at 8am). I now have anxiety issues daily and believe it's directly related to my low t(big? On that, can a surpressed T level cause anx/depress?) I have NEVER had this before

I have been working with many docs and have so far had no luck except to jus deal with it and cover up my symptoms w xanex and anti-d's. So far my urologist says to jus give it mths and mths w no help (clomid, nolva or at min a test booster), he wants me to come back on my own, I hate this. I now have an endocrinologist that is new for me last week and is seeming to think that androbolix (the test sup) is an anabolic steroid and has advised me not to do anything yet until he checks my glands for damage w another blood test. This irritates me because to my knowledge you cant buy roids at gnc! ( Ie maybe hes not as knowledgable as i assumed) and it makes me think they all jus want me hooked on the antis and xanex and hey maybe they wanna toss in some trt here soon...

My take is I'm done w not doing anything, I have been on androbolix since last friday (8 days) and all ready am having days that I feel good and norm most of the time and some rock hard downstairs... Been eating a shit load of brock and working out hard (squats) all in effort to boost test. Anything else I can do to naturally bring myself back faster? Am I on the right track?

Hows androbolix at actually doing what it says it can? Block estrogen and boost test at the same time?

And has anyone heard of legit anavar shutting you down at 40mg a day?!?! The high bp was norm for it but I had gained 10lbs on it and it seems as if it may have been, eh fake or something else like maybe d bol possibly?

I did 4 days literally of 50mg clomid and stopped immediately on day 5 because the panic attack/ anxiety / just felt like a golf ball was in my throat and had gotten worse. Looking back I should have continued because those r symptoms of being shutdown, not clomid use. Ahhhh! Right?

After that small 4 day stint I had done nothing to help test levels cept some zma before bed for a bit, not even a multiple- vit. All because of listening to docs.

But now at this point i'm looking at trt in the face and just wanna give it a shot on my own. I think I can bring myself back weather w natural test boosters or w a nice pct, it's not too late for that is it? Worth a try I suppose.

Nd no I didn't have a base test level to go off of unfortunately... And everything in the down stairs is good, it's my head thts all messed up... Anx and depression. Nd I guess i could have had low numbers b4 but I keep reading a guy in his 20s is pose to b in the 600 range at a min?

Thanks guys for any help you can offer....


Would running a pct cycle now be a good idea? What would you use and for what length of time and dosage? Thanks again

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

Maybe give hcgenerate or phytoserms 347 a go, did you run pct after your var cycle? it seemed like you jumped off var then tried clomid didnt like it and jumped off that!

 

[rage22]

"it seemed like you jumped off var then tried Clomid didnt like it and jumped off that!"

Is exactly what I did...

Seems to me this is where I messed up?

At the time I was under a friends advice who thought it was something that didn't need a pct, he had been on and off anavar and winstol for 2 years straight! After an andriol cycle with no pct, I didn't even know what pct even was till I started feel in like shit and hit the books and sites like this. Now I'm the educator to him, lol wtf!?! Right. Not good... I know

Anyhow would going back on a proper pct help in my case? It would make sense I would think... Just need reassurance as this doc is about to either let me go a few more mths w/o n e thing or start needling me up w trt, not wht I want for rest of my life.

Thanks for the reply

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

id tried a usual pct, hcgenerate forma stanzol maybe unleased/post cycle and then see what happenes after that

 

[rage22]

Been taking androbolix only now for 11 days and can tell a diff. In mood, down stairs, gym- have increased vigor and over all want to be in there longer, lifts actually came up a bit on dumbell presses ( 85 lbs x 10 rep 5 sets again!), and surprisingly I'm not needing to dose myself w xanex every few hours!
I'm down to cracking a .25 into 4 quarters and getting through day w only one piece, thts .0625 mg Ed this makes me very happy!

Had blood taken again yesterday so by end of week I can post some results of where I was right before taking this and after. So it'll b a 10 day diff. Interested to see if it actually is working or if it's a placebo effect.

And found http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html in the sticky section, Tono help understanding things, I read it 3 times over! And can't wait to talk w doc bout other options then jumping right to trt!

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

Sounds good bro keep us posted

 

[rage22]

Kinda crazy.... Havnt had blood test back yet but today.... Noooo anxiety, no meds needed!

Just saying maybe this androbolixs working out. Thanks god!

And started really reading bout needtobuildmuscle.net products and am very interested

Thanks for suggesting them. They seem promising

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

I havnet been dissapointed from there yet!

 

[rage22]

GOt hcgenerate last week and been on tht, trs stack, krill oil, and ruthless multi vit since friday last week. Can already tell this works. Got harder hard ons... Better libido, lifts already up a lil, more endurance. And just overall good feelings.

Only weird thing I noticed is my nuts kinda hurt from time to time. Like someone gace me a mild swift kick to the balls, is this norm? I can def see that (forgive me lol) the right one is getting bigger.

And the hurt thing isnt jus me. My friend is taking exact same stack and reported the same thing!

Anyhow, everythings great other then that lol

 

[woodyx2010]

GOt hcgenerate last week and been on tht, trs stack, krill oil, and ruthless multi vit since friday last week. Can already tell this works. Got harder hard ons... Better libido, lifts already up a lil, more endurance. And just overall good feelings.

Only weird thing I noticed is my nuts kinda hurt from time to time. Like someone gace me a mild swift kick to the balls, is this norm? I can def see that (forgive me lol) the right one is getting bigger.

And the hurt thing isnt jus me. My friend is taking exact same stack and reported the same thing!

Anyhow, everythings great other then that lol

Hey Mark,

I'm on the exact same boat as you mate finished a anavar only cycle few months ago and got shut down bad only done clomid didnt even realise what PCT was till after i was really shutdown had blood results this week and my natural test is pretty low border line.... and the lethargy as eased of intime but its still kind of there but gets worse some days i also get bad anxiety!

Have you recovered yet how are you feeling what action did you take to for boosting natty test all together?

 

[rage22]

well, lol I wish I knew who Mark was, or is that like slang for op? lol sry

Regardless, the stack that I described above is what I did and a pal of mine did. Both of us feel AWESOME now. I can't even describe the difference in how I feel day to day now compared to when I came off. Honestly, I want to do another cycle of some type but if thats the way Im going to feel coming off everytime then I'll never touch aas again. I cant see that being so, why the hell would soo many people do it then, you know? I have various friends taking various cycles and am watching closly aiding them because I'm the only one with half a brain and on here studying the subject. They just take it and roll with it. Crazy.

I wish I could see what type of anavar you had, if it was made by the same company as mine? Since you had similar feelings coming off. If you go to elite-bodiez.com and join they have a source check section and I have already started a thread Elite-bodiez Steroids Sources and Supplement Forums . we can talk about the source there if you want to. No big deal if not. Just wondering because I'm almost convinced it was somthing else as there are few report of guys being shutdown or having as many problems with anavar as I did.

Back to you, If I were you I'd take the exact same cycle I took:

1-4 Hcgenerate- 5 cap ed (till the bottle is empty) or Bridge at a double dose because it has the fodogia in it.
1-4 Krill oil- 2 a day
1-4 Ruthless mutli-vit- 3 a day
1-4 *Trs Stack which has Sustian alpha- 6 pumps 5 days on and 2 off (although I heard a thing or two about the company that put this product out...) So if you want, instead use Forma Stanzol (this alone will prob bring you back) at 5 pumps 2 times a day, I believe at 5 on 2 off.

Then if you want, I did.:
Need2slin- 3 times ed
Gear- 10-15 ed
Normal protein intake

Can add in Creatine, no2, pre-workouts.

Also make sure your squating heavy and low reps as well as dead lifting heavy and low reps. It helps to increase test. Do this at least 2 times per week.

Annnnd on top of it you should go get a blood test now and after this cycle, once you have been off of everything for 1 week. Then come back and post it so you can help others that fall into the same situation. You can learn how to get it cheap ($50 bucks) here... http://needtobuildmuscle.net/forum/f29/inexpensive-bloodwork-how-get-without-insurance-6269.html I just used this method literally a week ago so it works prefect.

 

[rage22]

and on top of it to be perfectly honest, that stack I took was after 3 mths of literally no real pct. I dont have my bloods to post up yet to prove that it worked. (I get them next week.) But I can tell you I do not get anxiety anymore and the depression like feelings are completely gone. Lifts have gone up and I'm starting to see more weight gain on the scale and muscle in the mirror. So I know my test levels are back if not better then they were before I started. And I'm always horny as hell. Hope it stays this way lol.


But my point is this.. you could also, depending on how close you are to the end of your cycle, use Post cycle and Unleashed and they should bring you back by themselves. But I would add in forma and HCGENERATE for good measure. HCgen is by far the most important in my book. Itll make your nuts actually hurt from coming back, and that was after a cycle of androbolix it did that to me.

Good luck, let me know how it all turns out.

 

[rage22]

WEll my t level is 287 as of 10:30am 4/19. Lil late 4 a test?

I feel great tho so I cant say hcfen and the rest didmt help but im not even in a norm t range after all tht stuff I took to get me back. I will b posting bloods when I get home. Hopefully some one can point out somthing good 4 me.. Lol

 

[rage22]

Here are my after bloods.

now to find my befores... although I dont know that they matter to much.

 

[needtogetaas]

Here are my after bloods.

now to find my befores... although I dont know that they matter to much.

of course the before matters bro. Before your test levles were around low 90's and now you are creeping up on being back to the 300's which is where you want to be..

However what is much more importaint then the test levels that you are at now is the LH level that you are at right now. Your LH is 4.2 right smack in the middle of "normal" and recovered.

This means that YES!!!!!!!!!!! your body is once again producing its own natural test again and you are well well on your way to normal recovery!!!!!!!!!!!.

I will be keeping a copy of this thread and this test. YOu my friend are now recovered and your body is now once again producing all of its own natural hormones again and this is why you feel great!!!

 

[Nathangreen]

Sorry for bringing back an old thread but I'm in the same position. Once you'd ran all your hcgenerate ect were you back to normal.
Were your test levels normal months later or did they dip once you came off it all?