Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have used 250 in the past and had no problems with it. I am now using 1.5 CC 2 times a week of Sus and the last 2 shot have hurt BAD for days after. Any way to help get rid of this pain? I use 1" 21 gauge needs for this and all my other injects but never had this problem with any other AS. Any thoughts??
help Sus pain
- Thread starter Johnny V
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me too!
i'll bump this one for ya. i've been on sus for a while now and just yesterday i changed to Ttokkyo's sus and my ass is killing me. i don't know if you're using it too but i'd still like to know what we can do to ease the pain. if you can still find them, there have been a lot of post relating to this question on the old search. i've tried and i can't find them though. good luck. bump this shit!!
i'll bump this one for ya. i've been on sus for a while now and just yesterday i changed to Ttokkyo's sus and my ass is killing me. i don't know if you're using it too but i'd still like to know what we can do to ease the pain. if you can still find them, there have been a lot of post relating to this question on the old search. i've tried and i can't find them though. good luck. bump this shit!!
I don't think there is any way around the pain you get from sust. It is usually the prop that makes it hurt. You could try putting ice on it for 5-10 min before injecting and after the injection, massage the area for a while and that may help. Best of luck!
M18
M18
i know what you mean but....
i understand about taking the pain and i agree completely. however, i do remember some one posting before that one could try to heat the sus or mix it with another injectable in hopes that it would dilute the high alcohol that comes with the Ttokkyo sus. sorry if i'm incorrect, but that's what i remember reading. thanks
i understand about taking the pain and i agree completely. however, i do remember some one posting before that one could try to heat the sus or mix it with another injectable in hopes that it would dilute the high alcohol that comes with the Ttokkyo sus. sorry if i'm incorrect, but that's what i remember reading. thanks
Mako the Shark
Banned
Ok I tried something new today and it kinda worked. Just did my 2nd ttokkyyo sus shot on mon...first one was sore for like 5 days...day 2 and 3 were insanely painful...by the weekend it was fine so mon came and i shot again...this time i fucked up and forgot to asperate, so i stopped after 1/2 cc nearly freaked pulled it out stuck it in again 1/4" away from the first site and shot the other 1.5 cc's but i also moved the needle which hurt as well...needless to say i fucked that injection all up and the pain started that same night, its just about the end of day 2 since i shot late on mon and i have alot less pain and more mobility...what i did was get an ace bandage from the drugstore and wrap it around my sore asscheek and under my groin...by keeping pressure on it and lessening its mobility walking, sitting, etc are ALOT less painful...oh and also before the bandage i was using a good amount of Icy-Hot on the site...take it from me tho the wrapping the cheek has helped so much...i think i can handle the pain now no sweat...so bring on the needle!!!
ahhhh shit.....it's been two days and it's starting to hurt more. do you guys get a bit of swelling in the area that hurts "ass" well. hahaha!! my left cheeck is a bit bigger than the right. it's pretty shitty so far, but if the pain means that it's legit and working...bring it on.
islandbound
New member
Ttokkyo Bullshit
To be honest bro I don't why in the hell you're using that Ttokkyo nightmare sauce, I had to give up on it myself and just take the loss. But if you must continue using it, here's some things you can do:
1) heat the oil first in warm water (5 minutes or so)
Some people say they do this in the syringe, but for sterility reasons, why not just heat the bottle in water before drawing up?
2) mix it!! Deca or equipose if you have them to dilute the alchol content.
3) massage the hell out of the injection site afterwards, like you said, to dissipate the oil fro the site.
4) inject in the mornings as opposed to the evening...this way you're walking around during the day and the oil can dissipate better. Or some say they inject on leg day, and do their workouts afterwards for further dispersion of the oil in the site. I'd go out and walk around, but God, with that shit it made no difference!
5) About baking it. This is controversial. The info I've come away with is that it MAY lessen the pain by evaporating the benzyl alcohol by cooking the vial (with a venting pin) for about 3 cycles of 25minutes of low temperature. (heating, cooling, then again). However this may also weaken the potency of the gear, and you may end up with not that much benefit (not a LOT of pain decrease) and then weak gear. IMHO, it's not worth doing.
6) Toss that bullshit and get some Organon sust! Ttokkyo's next batch of shit will have less alchol content by the way...they are aware of the problems with their testonon.
Also, if your ass is UNTOLERABLE like mine was, or the heat is intense from the area and swelled (you may have a fever too), then I'd suggest you go to a doc if it persists for longer than a couple days and doesn't get better. If I've said anything incorrectly I'm open to correction by a more knowlegable vet. Good luck!
To be honest bro I don't why in the hell you're using that Ttokkyo nightmare sauce, I had to give up on it myself and just take the loss. But if you must continue using it, here's some things you can do:
1) heat the oil first in warm water (5 minutes or so)
Some people say they do this in the syringe, but for sterility reasons, why not just heat the bottle in water before drawing up?
2) mix it!! Deca or equipose if you have them to dilute the alchol content.
3) massage the hell out of the injection site afterwards, like you said, to dissipate the oil fro the site.
4) inject in the mornings as opposed to the evening...this way you're walking around during the day and the oil can dissipate better. Or some say they inject on leg day, and do their workouts afterwards for further dispersion of the oil in the site. I'd go out and walk around, but God, with that shit it made no difference!
5) About baking it. This is controversial. The info I've come away with is that it MAY lessen the pain by evaporating the benzyl alcohol by cooking the vial (with a venting pin) for about 3 cycles of 25minutes of low temperature. (heating, cooling, then again). However this may also weaken the potency of the gear, and you may end up with not that much benefit (not a LOT of pain decrease) and then weak gear. IMHO, it's not worth doing.
6) Toss that bullshit and get some Organon sust! Ttokkyo's next batch of shit will have less alchol content by the way...they are aware of the problems with their testonon.
Also, if your ass is UNTOLERABLE like mine was, or the heat is intense from the area and swelled (you may have a fever too), then I'd suggest you go to a doc if it persists for longer than a couple days and doesn't get better. If I've said anything incorrectly I'm open to correction by a more knowlegable vet. Good luck!
LCBUTLER
New member
I had pain with sust injections until I started taking a shower immediately after injecting, and then rubbing the injection site for several minutes in the shower.
I also really concentrated on relaxing during the injection, I noticed I would tense up a bit, so I tried to really be calm.
Make the shower as hot as you can stand and massage the injection site very well. Use soap or something to lube it so you don't rub your skin off.
Optionally take 800mgs Ibuprofen after the shower, and make sure you have your milk thistle.
I have not had a painful injection since.
Hope this helps.
LC
I also really concentrated on relaxing during the injection, I noticed I would tense up a bit, so I tried to really be calm.
Make the shower as hot as you can stand and massage the injection site very well. Use soap or something to lube it so you don't rub your skin off.
Optionally take 800mgs Ibuprofen after the shower, and make sure you have your milk thistle.
I have not had a painful injection since.
Hope this helps.
LC
using the ttokyo sust is really a pain in the butt...i just finished an injection 2 days ago and am sore as hell..diluted 1cc sust with 1 cc test cyp and still hurts...did put a hot wash cloth in my glute afterwards...also time before last i did a hot shower nozzle on my glute which helps...i hope they correct this benzyl alcohol s#$t that was added to the sust in the future or i'm off tk sust for life...i hear their test cyp has alcohol in it...give me a break..
If sus hurts so much and so reliably why do so many of us take it?
More experienced guys, is there a test that works just as well or better without the same pain? Cypionate, or enthanate?
What are the pros and cons of using just a single ester and which one do you think is best? Maybe a separate thread but I'd like to hear from guys who no longer use sus but use another test and find it preferable.
More experienced guys, is there a test that works just as well or better without the same pain? Cypionate, or enthanate?
What are the pros and cons of using just a single ester and which one do you think is best? Maybe a separate thread but I'd like to hear from guys who no longer use sus but use another test and find it preferable.
LCBUTLER
New member
Johnny V said:
Let me know how it goes. Just remember to rub, rub, rub, not real hard, but thouroghly, and try to relax that muscle while you inject, I know it is hard to do, especially in the glute since you are doing the twist to just get it in there, I have to stretch for about 5 minutes before shooting my left glute.
Anyway good luck.
Basic chemistry lesson for everyone. You cannot dilute an alkaline base by heating or warming . It has to be heated in an open area to evaporate. Anything else creates sludge. So mixing something else with ttokkyo's sus will not dilute the alcohol. Now you know something .
UPDATE:
Ok I tried everything and it was only a bit better but my arm is still killing me today even though last sus injection was saturday morning. Here is what I did:
Heated my sus with cap open in a bowl of hot water with the tap running for 10 minutes
injected my right delt with 1.5 CC's then went to the gym right away and did shoulder and tri workout
can home showered with a hot shower and massaged the area while in a hot shower.
After that I was fine till about 7 hours later and then about 8 pm at night it hit me. Pain in my shoulder and my shoulder becomes bloated and hard as hell. Can not lift it over my head or reach straight out which of course causes bad work outs.
SO any more ideas? The only thought I had was start using a bigger muscle group to inject into like Quad or Glut. Thoughts on that?? It hurts and this sucks but sus is so awesome I do not want to give it up and can not get a better brand.....
Thanks again for everyone's help!
Ok I tried everything and it was only a bit better but my arm is still killing me today even though last sus injection was saturday morning. Here is what I did:
Heated my sus with cap open in a bowl of hot water with the tap running for 10 minutes
injected my right delt with 1.5 CC's then went to the gym right away and did shoulder and tri workout
can home showered with a hot shower and massaged the area while in a hot shower.
After that I was fine till about 7 hours later and then about 8 pm at night it hit me. Pain in my shoulder and my shoulder becomes bloated and hard as hell. Can not lift it over my head or reach straight out which of course causes bad work outs.
SO any more ideas? The only thought I had was start using a bigger muscle group to inject into like Quad or Glut. Thoughts on that?? It hurts and this sucks but sus is so awesome I do not want to give it up and can not get a better brand.....
Thanks again for everyone's help!
i know exactly what you mean. i just did my second injection last night and it's going over well. just like you, i went and worked out right after the injection and it seemed to work. i shot in my glut and worked out my legs, so i think working my legs helped out a lot. i've heard that the real pain doesn't come until the second or third day so i'm not in the clear yet. i'm to excited about using the sos too. i'd rather take the pain than swith to some other gear. keep trying. i do think, however, that you should try a different muscle group. I don't like quad injection because, personally, they kill me. i'd recommend that you shoot in the glut. at teast you'd be able to have better workouts with your upper body if the pain consists in your ass. good luck bro!
