Help needed......

[Virgingrl1]

I am a fitness model who has tried everything to lean down with out losing muscle. It's IMPOSSIBLE! I have taken every fat burner, carb blocker, fat blocker crap out there to no avail. I have thought about trying a cycle of light steriods to lean my body - especially my legs. I DO NOT want to bulk up like a man. My legs are already muscularly thick as is. i just want to get rid of the nasty stubborn fatty deposits that plague my inner and outer thighs. Where do I start? worried: I need to keep an edge on the younger models out there as well. I am only 26 but that's "getting old" in the modeling world. email is: [email protected]

P.S.
the type of cycle I need(if it exists) is one that will harden me up and help me lose the excess body fat. I have never taken anything but the andro/norandro's. I have tried many different types and I am NOT impressed at all. I am strong for a woman who has never done anything, but I hve come to the reality that I have to do a cycle of SOMETHING. I just want a light cycle for a cute little virgin like me. Heehee!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Var is the way to go. Start off at 5mg and see if you need to work you way up from there.

I am a fitness model who has tried everything to lean down with out losing muscle. It's IMPOSSIBLE! I have taken every fat burner, carb blocker, fat blocker crap out there to no avail. I have thought about trying a cycle of light steriods to lean my body - especially my legs. I DO NOT want to bulk up like a man. My legs are already muscularly thick as is. i just want to get rid of the nasty stubborn fatty deposits that plague my inner and outer thighs. Where do I start? worried: I need to keep an edge on the younger models out there as well. I am only 26 but that's "getting old" in the modeling world. email is: [email protected]

P.S.
the type of cycle I need(if it exists) is one that will harden me up and help me lose the excess body fat. I have never taken anything but the andro/norandro's. I have tried many different types and I am NOT impressed at all. I am strong for a woman who has never done anything, but I hve come to the reality that I have to do a cycle of SOMETHING. I just want a light cycle for a cute little virgin like me. Heehee!

 

[RADAR]

Var will harden you up , but diet is when the leanness comes in,Var does not burn fat.
I would try some clenbuterol

RADAR

 

[Virgingrl1]

Var will harden you up , but diet is when the leanness comes in,Var does not burn fat.
I would try some clenbuterol

RADAR

Thanks for the advice. I was hoping I'd get a reasonably quick response. I have been on a pretty strict high protein/low, but not too low, carb diet for a while. I eat 6 small meals a day. I just have the normal woman's problem areas(outer thighs, aka saddle bags; and inner thighs). They are stubborn and annoying. It makes me feel like I'm failing somehow. I am considering some liposuction and then going on a cycle. I heard doing it that way helps you bounce back from the surgery faster.

 

[RADAR]

Thanks for the advice. I was hoping I'd get a reasonably quick response. I have been on a pretty strict high protein/low, but not too low, carb diet for a while. I eat 6 small meals a day. I just have the normal woman's problem areas(outer thighs, aka saddle bags; and inner thighs). They are stubborn and annoying. It makes me feel like I'm failing somehow. I am considering some liposuction and then going on a cycle. I heard doing it that way helps you bounce back from the surgery faster.

Everyone is in such a hurry now a days, Do you walk? Try lowering the carbs a bit more say mon,tues, & thurs along with some walking for 45 min, you can speed this up by throwing sprints in there every 15 minutes or less, metabolism will speed up accelerating the fat burning process and is a much healthier alternative than Lipo.


RADAR

 

[Jenetic]

Both BRR and Radar have provided solid information.

There are a few things you need to adress in regards to your diet. It is important to establish your maintenence calories first based upon your daily activities. Then subtract 500 calories ED. One pound of fat is approximately 3,500 calories. Therefore, you should drop 1 lb a week if you are truly accurate and persistent. This is where most people fail in general. They think they do it but they don't. Your macronutrient ratio will provide you an additional edge for retaining muscle and further promoting fat loss.

In regards to training, I've witnessed the most consistent results with 45-60 minutes moderate intensity cardio ED.

Many of my female personal training clients in the past which were actors and/or models had great success with a combination of Anavar, T3 and Clenbuterol.

The average dosges were 5 mgs Anavar ED, 25 mcgs T3 ED and 60 mgs Clenbuterol ED for a total of 8 weeks. The Clenbuterol is to be cycled 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. Then, the cycle can be repeated again if desired after a 8 week layoff. This does not necessarily mean that you change your training and nutrition. In fact, continue as usualy and simply reintroduce the cycle if necessary.

One of the reasons women retain so much more fat than men do is simply due to estrogen. Anavar has many other benefits, but in regards to fat loss, it shifts you androgen:estrogen ratio which creates an optimal lipolytic environment.

The lipolytic properties and synergystic effect of T3 and Clenbuterol are self spoken for.

The combination of a proper diet, training and the usage of the above substances will create an optimal environment for maximizing muscle retention and lipolysis. Every individual will experience different results but they should be significant regardless. Although I am not familiar with your current level of conditioning, this process may take up to 6 months for you desired goals to be achieved. Your dedication and persistence will be rewarded.

Jenetic

 

[manny78]

I am a fitness model who has tried everything to lean down with out losing muscle. It's IMPOSSIBLE! I have taken every fat burner, carb blocker, fat blocker crap out there to no avail. I have thought about trying a cycle of light steriods to lean my body - especially my legs. I DO NOT want to bulk up like a man. My legs are already muscularly thick as is. i just want to get rid of the nasty stubborn fatty deposits that plague my inner and outer thighs. Where do I start? worried: I need to keep an edge on the younger models out there as well. I am only 26 but that's "getting old" in the modeling world. email is: [email protected]

P.S.
the type of cycle I need(if it exists) is one that will harden me up and help me lose the excess body fat. I have never taken anything but the andro/norandro's. I have tried many different types and I am NOT impressed at all. I am strong for a woman who has never done anything, but I hve come to the reality that I have to do a cycle of SOMETHING. I just want a light cycle for a cute little virgin like me. Heehee!

On top of var and clen, yohimburn will definitely be helpful for stubborn fat. I've never been a fan of T-3. I understand many folks like it and had great results but there'S something about the thyroid which scares me but that's just me... you have solid advices here. Make sure your var is not fake. Many people take var and then complain it didnt do shit. It's either because their diet sucked (most of the time) or they got fake gear (unfortunately it happens a lot with anavar).

 

[Daisy_Girl]

WHat is your SPECIFIC diet made of? I mean.....food choices, amounts, measurements, timing, preparation, condiments, etc.

Also, how is the training? What do you do?

 

[StickFigure]

I agree with Manny on the Yohimburn part. I was going to suggest Lipoderm-Ultra only because I have used it with good results but I have heard even better things about Yohimburn and it will be the next thing I try. These products are topicals that unseat the stubborn A2 fat cells that are the hardest to lose. However you need a transport system to move the fat cells once they are unseated. Here is where your low carb diet, ECA or Clen or T3 will come into play along with your cardio.
Hope this helps! Good Luck!

 

[RADAR]

Thanks for the advice. I was hoping I'd get a reasonably quick response. I have been on a pretty strict high protein/low, but not too low, carb diet for a while. I eat 6 small meals a day. I just have the normal woman's problem areas(outer thighs, aka saddle bags; and inner thighs). They are stubborn and annoying. It makes me feel like I'm failing somehow. I am considering some liposuction and then going on a cycle. I heard doing it that way helps you bounce back from the surgery faster.

I do hope you do not consider Lipo.
If you value your career then consider what might happen if the unthinkable occurs and you are left with extreme scarring.


RADAR

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I don't understand how everyone can be pushing T3, Var, and Clen on someone when we don't even know WHAT SHE EATS or WHAT SHE DOES IN THE GYM!!!!!!!

 

[Dragon14]

Thermorexin and Yohimburn. If that doesn't work, consider clen.

 

[Virgingrl1]

Here's my diet - the order may vary day to day a gal of water consumed w/ this

meal 1 - 4 egg whites w/ 1 whole wheat toast (dry) w/ 8 oz. of OJ
meal 2 - protein bar w/ 2 net carbs (Doctor's Carbright diet brand)
meal 3 - half a can of tuna w/ just enough mayo to make it stick together
one 2 pc.s of whole wheat toast
meal 4 - the other half of the tuna w/ no bread
meal 5 - 4 oz. chicken breast - baked ( skinless, boneless) w/ green
veggies steamed and maybe some brown rice (usually not,
though)
meal 6 - another protien bar or shake (Designer whey w/ skim milk)

Here's my basic workout schedule - all are lower weight with high reps( no less than 12 reps on any exercise [barring a smoke-out]) cardio is usually a 4-5 mile run @ 8 min mile pace or eliptical machine if leg day

day 1 - back and bi's 3-4 exercizes 3-4 sets each - 45min cardio/ light abs
day 2 - chest and tri's sets and reps same as above - 45 min cardio
day 3 - shoulders 3 exercises 3 sets each - 45 min cardio/ hard abs
day 4 - legs 6 exercises (to hit all leg areas separately) 3 sets each - 30 min cardio

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Why low weights, especially on upper body? Muscle is what will burn the fat, it keeps your metabolism raised. You will NOT get bulky or masculine. Women have 1/10th the testorerone men have, and MEN have a hard enough time getting bulky naturally.

As far as exercises, you should concentrate on complex, compound movements. Especially with legs. Legs should be squats, lunges, deadlifts....even stiff legged deadlifts. Don't waste time with the inner/outer thigh machines. If you lunge and squat enough, those areas will get drilled. Honestly, I think upper body should be about 8-10 reps.

That is too much steady state cardio....especially if you have been doing the same thing for awhile. Sounds like yout body needs a change. Try HIIT 2-3 times a week to gvie the metabolism a boost.

DROP the protein bars. Even the so-called low carb ones are full of CRAP. They may be low in "impact carbs" but they are high in chemicals and unusable products. Real food, or shakes, are MUCH MUCH better.

DROP the bread - processed.

WHERE IS THE FAT IN YOUR DIET? You need to add almonds, flax oil or olive oil in there.

Meal 1 - eat 4 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 1/2-1c cooked oatmeal or cream of wheat (no bread...it's processed!)

Meal 2 - maybe do a 1/2cup cottage cheese with chopped walnuts or a very small amount of fruit (like around 3 sliced strawberries or 10 blueberries)

Meal 3 - add 1/2c brown rice or 3oz potato to the Tuna meal (instead of bread). Also, add a fat source here, maybe 16 almonds.

Meal 4 - Tuna and Veggies (green), fat source

Meal 5 - Chicken and Green Veggies

Meal 6 - Protein Shake, add 1 tsp Oil to slow digestion

 

[INNOCENT]

best advice yet daisy girl, im glad u focused in on the diet, you gave some great advice there, k to ya

 

[Von Zipperr]

im plat

 

[Sassy69]

BUMP to punctuate what Daisy said. ITS ALL IN THE DIET. Sometimes it also takes some extra cardio & balls to the wall training before you can throw up your arms and start looking to chemical supplementation.

Let me emphasize something about the problems that you allude to about inner & outer thigh bodyfat. If that is where you tend to carry your fat (because you have a greater concentration of fat cells there), you will have a challenge getting rid of it. The easy way is lipo ( not promoting lipo though), which will just get rid of that fat conventration - but then you need to watch that you don't start 'growing' the fat concentrated in other parts of your body. The other way is repeated optimization of your diet - people find that you end up having to "train" your body over and over to really get the fat loss optimized.

The drugs help men achieve results faster because 1) they introduce more testosterone, which men already have, and 2) men don't have estrogen which works to establish a certain degree of bodyfat. This doesn't work as easily for women. And at the end of the day, even the drugs won't achieve the results if the diet & training aren't optimized.