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help a noob in cycle (ive researched)

sdneves

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okay i got my diet down pretty good and the pct i wanna do

and i thought i had a cycle i wanted to do but now im not so sure.

i need to get lean and put on some muscle

im about 6 1 255 and 21-23%bf what are some realistic results? maybe something like 235 13%bf or is that asking to much? i train hard i have no problems pushing my self so ur advice is not wasted i plan on keeping measure ments body fat % and pics throughout the cycle and up untill the fight and possible even video of the fight/tourney.

i was thinking bout doing test e 250mg mon/thurs
10 week.
but i was hearing im gonna get really huge. i have good genetics and am really gonna do this cycle cause im gonna have a good opertunity to figtht in august .

i have a freind that (dumbass) that i should do clen only nothing else me being a noob it threw me off and i though id do some research and come ask my buddies here at ef what they think will get me lean strong and help me drop that bf.

im naturally strong about a month ago i was benching 305 and ive gotten alot stronger havent tested it but im guessing i can probably through up about 355. ive always been naturally strong i remmber being 12 and lifting 170ish when i weight in at 155 and than my 15 freshman year being 160 throwing up 205 3 times after not lifting for a year.

so can u plz help me i dont wanna screw up a good chance to actually get some recognizition and be able to train a couple local dojos free of charge including sups classes and maybe some gear(training shorts tape gloves shirts sweaters etc.)
 
Whether you get huge or get cut is going to be based solely on your diet and at your level of bodyfat you don't need steroids. Of course I know that's not what you want to hear but it's the truth. What you need to do is learn hwo to diet an do more cardio. I know you say you have your diet in check but you could definitely get to a much lower bodyfat if you did. Go hang around the diet board and I wouldn't start thinking about AS until you are farther along. If your bench went up 50 lbs in one month without steroids you'd be cheating yourself by not trying to get closer to your max potential before starting.
 
yeah i knew i was gonnna hear that and its hard for me to do cardio since ive developed chin splints i had been doing a full 3 mile every day but now im back to having to ride the bike. shit and its an improvement i was weighing in back in november at 304 lbs and up in the 30 % bf probably. and the 21-23%bf is a guess back when i was 284 they did an actual body fat test (calipers) i was 28% and ive been losing 8lbs a month. does anyone know how to get rid of chin splints?
 
No, But how do you expect to fight without Cardio? What kind of fighting are we talking about? I fight MMA, Submission Wrestling, and Boxing.....and Cardio is the sole number one most important thing to all those sports. If you can't run...try biking or something. It won't get you into fight shape, but it may help you lose weight.
 
I'm gonna have to agree here, bud.... bring down the bf first to at least between 15-18%... then you'll see better results from a cycle.... test only is a great start.... you can use clen as part of your dieting-down (lots of posts on here about clen)...

as for your shin splints.... if running gives you splints, then stay away from running.... rest is the only cure for them....make sure you have good running shoes...... then try some other forms of cardio such as bike, elipitcal, stair master
 
At 23% your cycle will be wasted. Don't be in a hurry to hop in till you can get control of your diet. Have you tried the elliptical?

Even with the shin splints, if you're 23% your main issue is diet content and portion control. You can run till your legs fall off, if your diet is still pizza and wings it will do you no good.

When trying to lose BF, I always found it more motivating to drop the running altogether, get the diet in check, hit the weights and stick to walking afterwards (or light biking in your case). Then, after a few weeks of that, you start to "feel it" and higher intensity cardio begins to become more appealing to get you over that hump.
 
sdneves said:
yeah i knew i was gonnna hear that and its hard for me to do cardio since ive developed chin splints i had been doing a full 3 mile every day but now im back to having to ride the bike. shit and its an improvement i was weighing in back in november at 304 lbs and up in the 30 % bf probably. and the 21-23%bf is a guess back when i was 284 they did an actual body fat test (calipers) i was 28% and ive been losing 8lbs a month. does anyone know how to get rid of chin splints?

Do you mean "shin splints?" Yeah, I used to get them all the time doing sprints until a trainer showed me a good trick--tape your arches. Get some athletic tape (you don't need much), place the tape across the top of your foot and wrap it around TOWARD THE INSIDE of your foot. Wrap 1.5 to 2 times around your foot. NOTE: you do not have to wrap tape around the entire length of your foot--just a single strip a couple of times around does the trick. I can't speak for running long distances with this, but it worked for me.

And no, I have no idea why it works.
 
yeah sorry bout the typo shin splints.

how effective is clen i was looking for some threads of peoples success with it but i havent been able to find anything am i not looking right place? being a non plat makes it hard to search.

so what kind of results could i expect from clen i read it has an anabolic effect so i could more weight and keep muscle maybe keep some? in three monts would it possible to lose 30-40 lbs while putting on 5 lbs muslce or something to that nature in a 3 months of very hard work and a clean diet?
 
TracDT1 said:
why do u say his cycle will be wasted?

I don't know if WASTED is the right term but it won't be as beneficial to him as it could be. If he was to get the calories down to below maintenance level, increase cardio he could get his body fat down to a percentage where he will actually see the muscles growing. At such a high BF it will look mostly like bloat which I am sure is not the results that he is striving for.
 
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