help a noob in cycle (ive researched)

[stuck]

If the goal is to lower body fat, then he's technically cutting. You don't cut at 23% body fat with juice.

I think your buddy is right on with the clen. I'd go that route first, but good luck with whichever way you decide to go.

 

[Prizz]

yeah sorry bout the typo shin splints.

how effective is clen i was looking for some threads of peoples success with it but i havent been able to find anything am i not looking right place? being a non plat makes it hard to search.

so what kind of results could i expect from clen i read it has an anabolic effect so i could more weight and keep muscle maybe keep some? in three monts would it possible to lose 30-40 lbs while putting on 5 lbs muslce or something to that nature in a 3 months of very hard work and a clean diet?

Actually Clen won't be that effective for ya..... Youre better off using Ephedrine and Caffiene for a while.... There are studies done on rats with Clen, and the more obese rats didn't lose much fat with Clen use.... Clen seems to be more effective when your BF% is lower, around 17% or below.... The same study showed the leaner Rats lost more BF then the obese rats, so I'd say save the Clen for later.... ECA will work better, plus it curbs your appetite where Clen doesnt....

rizz

 

[sdneves]

eca means ephedrine caffiene what does the a mean? any good places online to order it? im gonna schedual a more accurate bf test at a gym the test where they dunk u in the water to see ur true body fat.

 

[stuck]

eca means ephedrine caffiene what does the a mean? any good places online to order it? im gonna schedual a more accurate bf test at a gym the test where they dunk u in the water to see ur true body fat.

The a is for aspirin. You should be able to find that online.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

hi.

okay i got my diet down pretty good and the pct i wanna do

you dont know what you want to do exactly, so how can you know if your diet is good. thats non sensical. decide what youre going ot do in terms of body composition change then tailor diet accordingly.

im about 6 1 255 and 21-23%bf what are some realistic results? maybe something like 235 13%bf or is that asking to much? i train hard i have no problems pushing my self so ur advice is not wasted i plan on keeping measure ments body fat % and pics throughout the cycle and up untill the fight and possible even video of the fight/tourney.

you should be able to achieve those results naturally even on something as simplistic as a body for life training/diet regime.

i was thinking bout doing test e 250mg mon/thurs
10 week.
but i was hearing im gonna get really huge. i have good genetics and am really gonna do this cycle cause im gonna have a good opertunity to figtht in august .

stop thinking and start reading. 250mg test 4 times a week is an insane amount of gear, and imo, you arent someone who needs gear at all.

using gear isnt a quick fix. its a fast track to a lot of problems if you dont know what youre doing. put some time and effort into educating yourself or its going to bite you in the ass badly. very badly.

i have a freind that (dumbass) that i should do clen only nothing else me being a noob it threw me off and i though id do some research and come ask my buddies here at ef what they think will get me lean strong and help me drop that bf.

KISS. step 1) decide what you want to do. step 2) decide if drugs are appropriate at all. step 3) look at training + diet in context of goals, with and without drug use. step 4) decide, and stick to the plan.

 

[sdneves]

i didnt plan on 4 shots a week i planned on 2 shots a week at 250 mg so 500 mg

 

[Neo22]

I'll chime in also.

Drop the bodyfat
If you can't do the treadmill , do the stairmaster its easy on shins and not as high impact as most people think.
Run clen if you wish, it will help, but it wont do shit unless you are in a calorie deficit and eat the right foods. I would say right now don't run it.

 

[Jon79]

bro get in shape before you start the cycle. do not use clen or anything... i am a little out of shape as well. i already have my cycle in hand. it will be my third cycle. my advice is this... if you go to a gym with free cardio classes included like i do take advantage. take about a month and go to those classes. and stick to a good diet. only take in about 12 times your body weight in good clean calories. the point is to get into the best shape naturally and then do the cycle... you will be alot happier in the end... i plan to start the cycle i have in about a month ..... i just hit up all the free classes i can at the gym. spinning, kickboxing or whatever. you can burn alot of fat off in those classes and it does not make the cardio boring... anyway i am just saying bro get in shape and then start the cycle, if your diet is on point when you start the cycle you will gain the lean mass you want. since i have my cycle on hand i am using that to modivate me to get to the point i want to be before i start it.... sorry for blabbing away bro but i just want you to get the most out of your cycle i am sure you understand

 

[Jon79]

either way good luck to ya bro!

 

[sdneves]

thanks alot man. the sad this is i am in pretty good shape i can do 2 rounds for 5 mins sparring wrestling easy. before the shin splints i was able to run 3 miles straight.

since late nov earl dec ive been dieting and working out hard and from the will march 28 i went from 304 i believe if i rmember correctly do 255 and that was counting the weight i was probably about 310-312 before i started the diet.

sucks cause my cardio isnt to bad for not being able to run right now. but i should need to put on some strenght quick i dont wanna fuck up this oppertunity caust im fighting some big ass mexican dude that prob 245 at mosst 15 percent body fat.(less than that u can see his abs.)