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Hi All,
I am fairly new to this board and would like everyone's input.
Here are my stats:
Male, Age 27, 200lbs, around 13 to 14% bodyfat, 6'2". Classic ectomorph/hardgainer, thin wrists, forearms, calves. My biceps measure around 14.25 inches flexed, waist size 34.
Diet: around 3000 cals a day, 200 grams protein ED. I take flax seed oil as well. If I exceed 3000 cals for an extended period of time I put on a lot of fat. Believe me, I have ballooned up to waist size 38!
I've been training for a number of years, most of them not productive. Coming into I college I was around 160 lbs!! Very skinny for someone 6'2". My frame starting filling out soon after and I went to about 190 lbs (with no training). Initially I went through the high volume approach, and it did nothing for me Being thoroughly disgusted with the high volume approach, I tried a modified HIT routine, espoused by Stuart McRobert. It seemed to work.
Guys, don't laugh here, even when I was around 190 lbs or so I could initially bench around 135 to 140 pounds!! After a year of modified HIT (training only twice a week, 2 to 3 sets per body part x 8 reps, going to failure, increasing the weight whenever I could, using compound lifts, squats, deadlifts etc..) I brought my bench up to 185lbs. My deadlift went from 150 to 280. My squat went from 130 to 190.(poundages are for 8 to 10 rep sets). I gained strength in all my lifts ( squats being the most pathetic), got toned up, but hardly put on any size!!!
I took about a month off from training after that year of HIT and I lost about 70% of my peak strength!!
I eat around 3000 cals a day and around 200 grams of protein, (I have tried the mega calorie approach and it only makes my fat)
I am interested in muscle size first and foremost, strength secondarily.
My questions are as follows: 1. what type of routine should I utilize to gain size ? 2. Hypothetically, based on the above info, how much muscle could a hardgainer like my self hope to keep (keep permanently) off of a simple test enan cycle 500 mgs per week x 10 (.20 nolva ed as I am gyno prone run till the end of clomid) ? My goal is to put on 10 to 20 lbs of muscle after 2 such cycles. (Even thinking about this is hard because during that year of HIT, I doubt if I put on more than 3 pounds of lbs!)
I want to train naturally for a while to get in the groove of things and establish the right habits, then start the cycle, I know people advise trainees to achieve their genetic potential before starting but I am honestly not willing to wait that long. The gear is easily available to me and I am adamant about doing it in the next 6 months.
Please give any and all advice/criticism. Is there any hope for me??
Thanks so much.
I am fairly new to this board and would like everyone's input.
Here are my stats:
Male, Age 27, 200lbs, around 13 to 14% bodyfat, 6'2". Classic ectomorph/hardgainer, thin wrists, forearms, calves. My biceps measure around 14.25 inches flexed, waist size 34.
Diet: around 3000 cals a day, 200 grams protein ED. I take flax seed oil as well. If I exceed 3000 cals for an extended period of time I put on a lot of fat. Believe me, I have ballooned up to waist size 38!
I've been training for a number of years, most of them not productive. Coming into I college I was around 160 lbs!! Very skinny for someone 6'2". My frame starting filling out soon after and I went to about 190 lbs (with no training). Initially I went through the high volume approach, and it did nothing for me Being thoroughly disgusted with the high volume approach, I tried a modified HIT routine, espoused by Stuart McRobert. It seemed to work.
Guys, don't laugh here, even when I was around 190 lbs or so I could initially bench around 135 to 140 pounds!! After a year of modified HIT (training only twice a week, 2 to 3 sets per body part x 8 reps, going to failure, increasing the weight whenever I could, using compound lifts, squats, deadlifts etc..) I brought my bench up to 185lbs. My deadlift went from 150 to 280. My squat went from 130 to 190.(poundages are for 8 to 10 rep sets). I gained strength in all my lifts ( squats being the most pathetic), got toned up, but hardly put on any size!!!
I took about a month off from training after that year of HIT and I lost about 70% of my peak strength!!
I eat around 3000 cals a day and around 200 grams of protein, (I have tried the mega calorie approach and it only makes my fat)
I am interested in muscle size first and foremost, strength secondarily.
My questions are as follows: 1. what type of routine should I utilize to gain size ? 2. Hypothetically, based on the above info, how much muscle could a hardgainer like my self hope to keep (keep permanently) off of a simple test enan cycle 500 mgs per week x 10 (.20 nolva ed as I am gyno prone run till the end of clomid) ? My goal is to put on 10 to 20 lbs of muscle after 2 such cycles. (Even thinking about this is hard because during that year of HIT, I doubt if I put on more than 3 pounds of lbs!)
I want to train naturally for a while to get in the groove of things and establish the right habits, then start the cycle, I know people advise trainees to achieve their genetic potential before starting but I am honestly not willing to wait that long. The gear is easily available to me and I am adamant about doing it in the next 6 months.
Please give any and all advice/criticism. Is there any hope for me??
Thanks so much.
