Hello! I'm new got some questions...

[Nilaul]

Hello so I've been lurking around these forums for a long time. Just reading on steroids and trying to dig out information.

I'm pretty sure I want to do a Anavar cycle as my first cycle ever. Around 50-100mg for 8 weeks. However I've heard that it suppresses testosterone levels. Is this something to worry about? I would also be taking creatine, BCAA, Nuti-Greens, and post therapy would be Nolva. I think I found a good source for Anavar.

Due to the supressing nature of Anavar I was thinking about stacking it with 10mg-20mg of Tbol. However I'm not sure; does this raise testosterone levels during the cycle? I've done pretty good research of Anavar, however I know nothing about T-bol.

I'm looking for steroids in order for them to help boost my soccer performance; technically I'm skilled, but I seem to shut down after a point. Looking to increase my speed, strength (as I have trouble with larger stronger players) and hopefully I would improve my physique. In summer I will have try outs in a team (I'm 23 years of age on May 19) I do not want to take anything that would cause hairloss. I want only to take mild orals on my first cycle.

I try and hit the gym atleast every 2nd day.

Of course this still in the research phase. So I'm just looking for advice.

 

[brazilbeast]

Wish I could give you proper advice but I can't. I'm sure someone on here will help you out. Good Luck!

 

[Nilaul]

Wish I could give you proper advice but I can't. I'm sure someone on here will help you out. Good Luck!

Thanks

 

[bonacris]

Hello so I've been lurking around these forums for a long time. Just reading on steroids and trying to dig out information.

I'm pretty sure I want to do a Anavar cycle as my first cycle ever. Around 50-100mg for 8 weeks. However I've heard that it suppresses testosterone levels. Is this something to worry about? I would also be taking creatine, BCAA, Nuti-Greens, and post therapy would be Nolva. I think I found a good source for Anavar.

Due to the supressing nature of Anavar I was thinking about stacking it with 10mg-20mg of Tbol. However I'm not sure; does this raise testosterone levels during the cycle? I've done pretty good research of Anavar, however I know nothing about T-bol.

I'm looking for steroids in order for them to help boost my soccer performance; technically I'm skilled, but I seem to shut down after a point. Looking to increase my speed, strength (as I have trouble with larger stronger players) and hopefully I would improve my physique. In summer I will have try outs in a team (I'm 23 years of age on May 19) I do not want to take anything that would cause hairloss. I want only to take mild orals on my first cycle.

I try and hit the gym atleast every 2nd day.

Of course this still in the research phase. So I'm just looking for advice.

You have a lot of research to do. Any steroid will cause suppression. Even testosterone. Why because you are replacing your natural test so you body doesn't need to make anymore. So adding tbol to a cycle may give you a little boost on cycle but it will in fact shut you down harder making recovery more difficult and if your only using nolva as a pct you will probably be in a worse situation that you were at the start of the cycle..

Also 8 weeks with 2 orals is putting huge strain on your organs.

Another thing that I could actually see hampering your performance on the pitch is pumps.. This can be crippling. To the point where if im walking anywhere I have to stop every now and again because the pain in my shins is so fucking intense..

I would urge you to do more research and look into something called SARMS

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[northernknight]

You have a lot of research to do. Any steroid will cause suppression. Even testosterone. Why because you are replacing your natural test so you body doesn't need to make anymore. So adding tbol to a cycle may give you a little boost on cycle but it will in fact shut you down harder making recovery more difficult and if your only using nolva as a pct you will probably be in a worse situation that you were at the start of the cycle..

Also 8 weeks with 2 orals is putting huge strain on your organs.

Another thing that I could actually see hampering your performance on the pitch is pumps.. This can be crippling. To the point where if im walking anywhere I have to stop every now and again because the pain in my shins is so fucking intense..

I would urge you to do more research and look into something called SARMS

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+1

SARMs would be ideal for your goals, and good starting point for PEDs in general.
Look into running a stack of LGD-4033, S-4 and GW-501516, you can get amazing results with them. You could also run Ostarine in place of LGD, but IMO LGD-4033 would fit better for what you are trying to accomplish.

 

[smalljohn]

Hello so I've been lurking around these forums for a long time. Just reading on steroids and trying to dig out information.

I'm pretty sure I want to do a Anavar cycle as my first cycle ever. Around 50-100mg for 8 weeks. However I've heard that it suppresses testosterone levels. Is this something to worry about? I would also be taking creatine, BCAA, Nuti-Greens, and post therapy would be Nolva. I think I found a good source for Anavar.

Due to the supressing nature of Anavar I was thinking about stacking it with 10mg-20mg of Tbol. However I'm not sure; does this raise testosterone levels during the cycle? I've done pretty good research of Anavar, however I know nothing about T-bol.

I'm looking for steroids in order for them to help boost my soccer performance; technically I'm skilled, but I seem to shut down after a point. Looking to increase my speed, strength (as I have trouble with larger stronger players) and hopefully I would improve my physique. In summer I will have try outs in a team (I'm 23 years of age on May 19) I do not want to take anything that would cause hairloss. I want only to take mild orals on my first cycle.

I try and hit the gym atleast every 2nd day.

Of course this still in the research phase. So I'm just looking for advice.

Like bonacris said, you need to research more. Doesnt matter what kind of steroid it is, it will shut you down. Some turinabol wont save you for that only add to the supression. Though I have read about some people going 4-6 weeks anavar not getting surpressed, but in theory. It still will shut you down regardless. In soccer these drugs can cause major implications like mad pump in the legs. Doing this will not give you a great advantage at all, but sure you can put on some lean bodymass, but your soccer playing wont run on railroads afterward because of it.

Nolvadex is not post cycle therapy.
Anavar is a mild liver toxic so in that regard you're onto something.

 

[Nilaul]

I actually never heard about Sarms. Its interesting. Ofcourse I would only be looking into oral only on my first cycle; not ready mentally for injections.

How correct is this?

First off is SARM S4:
-Androgenic at any dose
-Mildly Anabolic at doses above 50mg
-Great for strength
-Great for muscle hardness
-Great for enhanced vascularity
-Great for endurance (aerobic or anaerobic)
-Accelerated fat loss above 50mg
-Joint soothing/healing effects
-Half life is 2-4 hours (multiple doses per day is optimal)
-Better if used on a 5on 2off approach to reduce or diminish sides even at above average doses

Sides:
-Yellow tint (person dependent, but usually starts around 75mg and up)
-Loss of night vision (person dependent, but usually starts around 75mg and up)
-Gene transcription (no known gene transcription effects to be reported yet, but the possibility is there tha you could be permanently messed up)
-Possible mild suppression at 60mg and above (person dependent)

Ostarine SARM:
-Lean mass gains (doses as low as 5mg to cause muscle growth)
-Accelerated fat loss (much moreso than S4 and at doses as low as 5mg ED)
-Joint soothing/healing effects
-Half life is 24 hours (one dose per day optimal)
-Can go up to 50mg ED with no known side effects
-Full looking muscle all day long
-Dense muscles all day long

NO KNOWN SIDES
NO SHUTDOWN


Now that you know a little bit about the two SARMs out now out of multiple SARMs to come, you can decide on whether you want to bulk, recomp or cut!

On a bulk or recomp I personally would use Osta over S4.
On a cut I would recommend S4 as it has muscle sparring effects. You will retain/increase strength and you will be hard and vascular.

Can I use in PCT??
In-fact, why not stack the two?
Why not do a bridge?
Can you?
YES!



Is a SARM as good as general AAS?
NO

Is a SARM better than any natty product?
YES

A SARM has its palce in the BB/fitness world, and although it is not as good as AAS, comes in close behind!!!

 

[bonacris]

I know nothing about sarms but I don't think steroids are the way to go. Dylan gemelli is the resident expert on sarms. Read his posts and maybe PM him if you like

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[Nilaul]

Cheers will continue my research and get back if necessary. Sarms are really hard to find on UK based suppliers (edit: There pretty much out in the open).

God Im exited and frightened about this at the same time.

Looking up ostarine, im courious what it really does. Some people claim it does nothing, some the opposite.

 

[dylangemelli]

Cheers will continue my research and get back if necessary. Sarms are really hard to find on UK based suppliers (edit: There pretty much out in the open).

God Im exited and frightened about this at the same time.

Looking up ostarine, im courious what it really does. Some people claim it does nothing, some the opposite.

bro... read my articles here... Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org... there is everything you need to know in all my articles...

as far as getting your sarms... SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators... they ship to the uk on a daily basis and have no issues with customs... they are also the very best quality you will find anywhere...

here is the cycle for you...

1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 10-20 mg day... split doses 12 hours apart SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com


Mini pct 13-16

Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators


you can get the n2bm products at predator nutrition as well... they are in the uk... if not, you can order direct off the site and they will ship to you... Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding... you are covered bro...

 

[dylangemelli]

Cheers will continue my research and get back if necessary. Sarms are really hard to find on UK based suppliers (edit: There pretty much out in the open).

God Im exited and frightened about this at the same time.

Looking up ostarine, im courious what it really does. Some people claim it does nothing, some the opposite.

bro... read my articles here... Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org... there is everything you need to know in all my articles...

as far as getting your sarms... SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators... they ship to the uk on a daily basis and have no issues with customs... they are also the very best quality you will find anywhere...

here is the cycle for you...

1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 10-20 mg day... split doses 12 hours apart SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com


Mini pct 13-16

Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators


you can get the n2bm products at predator nutrition as well... they are in the uk... if not, you can order direct off the site and they will ship to you... Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding... you are covered bro...

 

[Chameleonchris]

You want to stay well away from anavar if soccer is your thing! Even at 50mg per day you won't last more than 10 mins on the pitch before the pumps cripple you! Trust me! I love anavar but it's not for endurance sports!!! There are much better products out there for your needs

 

[Nilaul]

*Had to remove message because of links*.

Cheers, well its an very expensive cycle. Hmmm... however its interesting. Got a question, apparently SARMS are not all heavenly yet, its common to get a yellow tinted eyesight or something like that. However apart from hearing properly on the pitch, I need to see clearly, I need to see the colour of the shirts inorder to distinguish my players. Also as an part time architect student (Ill be playing football till I'm 35-40; so I just want to have another fun job after), and as an artist as a hobby; I must be able to see properly, I can not take risks.

Any cycle logs with photos?

 

[Nilaul]

OStarine bulks while GW cuts and stops anabolism and improves conditioning. Sounds good. What kind of gains does Ostarine make? Would you describe them like anavar's? Aka lean and hard (which presumingly lets you keep most after?). If you would to compare the gains made; to which steroid would you compare it to?


20mg per day would be a good dose?

 

[dylangemelli]

OStarine bulks while GW cuts and stops anabolism and improves conditioning. Sounds good. What kind of gains does Ostarine make? Would you describe them like anavar's? Aka lean and hard (which presumingly lets you keep most after?). If you would to compare the gains made; to which steroid would you compare it to?


20mg per day would be a good dose?

you can cut, recomp, bulk, etc... with ostarine... this is diet dependent but it has the capabilities to act as any of the listed goals... 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m... ostarine gains are amongst the most keepable you will ever find... also remember the healing properties that it possesses as well... this gets overlooked but is a key benefit with it's use... i would compare it to anavar/tbol... it has properties both have... of course its not as strong as a steroid but it would be most comparable in the sarms world to anavar/tbol... You definitely want to utilize it... taking it with gw will only further enhance it thus bringing on more quality gains... make sure to get all your sarms at SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators...

 

[Nilaul]

you can cut, recomp, bulk, etc... with ostarine... this is diet dependent but it has the capabilities to act as any of the listed goals... 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m... ostarine gains are amongst the most keepable you will ever find... also remember the healing properties that it possesses as well... this gets overlooked but is a key benefit with it's use... i would compare it to anavar/tbol... it has properties both have... of course its not as strong as a steroid but it would be most comparable in the sarms world to anavar/tbol... You definitely want to utilize it... taking it with gw will only further enhance it thus bringing on more quality gains... make sure to get all your sarms *link*.

Cheers what is the GW having extreme carcinogenic properties? Apparently in large doses it causes cancer (just like anyway these days btw); say someone has a small tumor developing; what would the effect be on someone who has cancer (not that I do)?

Just got to ask hard questions. Afterall they really did scramble to ban this substance. S4 is out of the question for me due to the possability temporary tinted yellow vision. However GW seems like to have no side effects; except for those weird and insane studies.

 

[dylangemelli]

Cheers what is the GW having extreme carcinogenic properties? Apparently in large doses it causes cancer (just like anyway these days btw); say someone has a small tumor developing; what would the effect be on someone who has cancer (not that I do)?

Just got to ask hard questions. Afterall they really did scramble to ban this substance. S4 is out of the question for me due to the possability temporary tinted yellow vision. However GW seems like to have no side effects; except for those weird and insane studies.

bro this issue has been covered more than a million times on this forum and its beyond tiresome... you can search and find a million replies... flawed studies... beyond extreme doses over ridiculous amounts of times and studies were done on rats... its ridiculous to say the least and there are reasons to believe gk wanted to get gw off the table quickly for financial reasons... gw is amazing and is the ultimate performance enhancer...

 

[Toro143]

Newbi here so pardon me jumping into your thread but can you clarify a few things for me. I haven't been on a cycle for about 4 years. I'm in my mid 40's and waiting on a job that might require drug and steroid testing (law enforcement), hence why I'm very interested in this cycle. I work out steady and eat well most of the time.
Anyway my question is about the quantity to buy (I wish it just came all bundled that way for a cycle)
So that would be 2 bottles of Ostarine, 3 bottles of S4, 3 bottles of cardarine
What does ES mean for hcgenerate ? I'm not clear on the dosage/qty for hcgenerate or liquidex.......
PCT
more hcgenerate and another bottle of caradine.

Sound at all right ???

 

[dylangemelli]

Newbi here so pardon me jumping into your thread but can you clarify a few things for me. I haven't been on a cycle for about 4 years. I'm in my mid 40's and waiting on a job that might require drug and steroid testing (law enforcement), hence why I'm very interested in this cycle. I work out steady and eat well most of the time.
Anyway my question is about the quantity to buy (I wish it just came all bundled that way for a cycle)
So that would be 2 bottles of Ostarine, 3 bottles of S4, 3 bottles of cardarine
What does ES mean for hcgenerate ? I'm not clear on the dosage/qty for hcgenerate or liquidex.......
PCT
more hcgenerate and another bottle of caradine.

Sound at all right ???

in the future, please start your own thread bro...

es means "extra strength"

hcgenerate es is 5 caps a day... 3 in the a.m. and 2 in the p.m.

"liquidex" is 1 ml in the a.m. and 1 in the p.m. for moderate and 2 and 2 for aggressive

gw-501516 is 20 mg day taken all at once, 30 minutes before your workout...