I think it works. It's like people say, it's one of the milder kinds, but definitely a big difference with vs without it. I ran it 6 weeks @ 100mg a day. I used it to try and recomp. Started at 217lbs, ended at 215-217lbs. Went up 50 lbs on 10 rep bench press. 3 weeks later, I'm still 217lbs with slight increase in calories and up another 10 lbs for a 10 rep bench press. That shows me right there it's a great strength gainer. Body composition changed noticeably, too. Strength went up fast and I haven't lost any, still gaining, but at about 1/4 the speed or less. Only side was lethargy for me. Ran it with HCGenerate from week 3-7. VERY keepable gains. I was scared to death I'd lose anything I gained. Nope, didn't lose anything as far as I can tell. Maybe PCT is just that bad ass with Formastanzol and Phytoserms 347. I can't wait to run another cycle, gonna try Beastdrol next time.