Helladrol or Dieselbolan for my goals?

[Jesse_Stillwell]

I am 21 years old, 170lbs, 6-7%BF 3 years lifting experience. I am looking to get up to 185-195lb.

I have been doing a ton of research here lately (need2's AAS 101 and much more) I have already decided that I am going to do a cycle so please don't try to convince me otherwise.

I first considered Diesbolan v2.0 starter pack. I am now wondering if something milder would be more appropriate for my first time ( I was reading some people reporting bad sides with Dieselbolan) The only sides I am worried about are lethargy, mood swings and inability to sleep. I am not worried about gyno or hairloss. (my puberty went smooth as butter and I am bald by choice)

After reading on Helladrol it didn't seem like a bad choice either. It appears to have less sides along with some slower leaner gains. I would probably go with Helladrol starter pack if I decide to give that one a try.

When I do one of these cycles my nutrition will be spot on, I plan on getting blood tests done and anything else to help the cycle.

What do you guys think?

Also if I end up with Dieselbolan should I do the recommended dose or cut it back to 2 a day? (heard a lot of people were doing this)

Thanks again everyone.

 

[Jesse_Stillwell]

Anyone want to shed some light on this?

 

[bonacris]

The starter packs are very incomplete.. buy them by all.means but you will need other products to have a good and safe recovery

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[Jesse_Stillwell]

The starter packs are very incomplete.. buy them by all.means but you will need other products to have a good and safe recovery

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Thank you for your reply. I have decided to give the Dieselbolan a try. Let me know what other PCT supplements I should be using alongside this.

 

[Fitguy308]

Post cycle/unleashed combo
Forma Stanzol
Clomid
Other natty test booster

 

[oxymoron]

Helladrol for ur first, but u are pretty young and considering u've been lifting 3 yrs just makes it worse. Although u said it, u dont care what people that know what they're doing have to say.

 

[digit0x]

25 lbs is a big goal. Don't expect to get that after 1 run. You're too young but obviously you've already found the candy. My best advice is to keep reading. Use the search function and read up on other guys experiences with Hella/Diesel. Lethargy unfortunately is a common side with many oral only cycles. Need your height too bud, 170 means something completely different on a 6' frame.

If I had to guess, you could change up your diet and gain 5 lbs in 4 weeks natty. Try eating 6 chicken breast/day as much brown rice and broccoli you can stuff down the hatch, and 1 cheat meal each day. At 21 hormones are on your side...

 

[Laxfiend]

Beastdrol would be best if you can get your hands on it or any other superdrol clone. That will pack on maintainable gains... Run n2guard along with the PH and forget the starter stack, it blows.

 

[Laxfiend]

Oh geez you are kinda young.... I feel like you are set on using a PH tho.... I would ay to grow a little more natty but if you are gonna run something, go light and eat carbs like mad and drink boat-loads of water. Especially for a superdrol clone. That stuff will make you so lethargic if your diet isn't on point that you won't get anything accomplished all cycle besides build muscle lol

 

[dylangemelli]

you never posted your height... how tall are you?

 

[bonacris]

clomid and some nolv wouldnt hurt

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/nolvadex-tamoxifen-citrate.html

Seriously bro stop with this shit.. nolva is fucking useless

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[dylangemelli]

seriously bro... quit recommending nolva to people... its getting old and its pissing all of us off...

 

[digit0x]

seriously bro... quit recommending nolva to people... its getting old and its pissing all of us off...

Lol. He just pops in says 'nolva' to everything.

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[nickb86]

what did you chhose in the end and how did it go buddy ?
Me and my freinds really rate the helladrol works awesomly stacked up right or as a standalone, I/we often use it as a kicker to our test cycles and injectables, solid product from mr supps and gives great results hope your cycle went well, let us know if you get a chance...