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Heavy deads+heavy squats= thick midsection?

sysopt, I did the best I could at explaining it.

but if you feel that i am completly full of shit or wrong, I can Understand.

it just goes down to personal experience, and results.

and welsh....I agree
 
I find that heavy, low repsquats thicken my waist quite a bit. But I'm with omega, the deads work my lats, lower back and traps more than the legs.
 
Freak Show said:
what's your opinion? Ever since I started training legs with my buddy who's a powerlifter(several months now), I've noticed being thicker around the middle. This, despite having leaned out a couple pounds. I'm lookin leaner everywhere but there. Its not like I look fatter, just thicker or "girthier." Hey, its a word.

:devil:
You say that like it's a bad thing.:biggrin:
 
Use a high reprange

I think its largely genetic: ie: somebody with a favourable posture and or neurocontrol has less trouble keeping balance with free squats, hence his/her waist does not have to struggle as hard to compensate being thrown offbalance, also what kind of fibers makeup your ab muscles etc. Also the length of the joints determines how much stress certain musclegroups receive during the lift.


If you feel your ass or waist becomes too thick from 4-6 reps heavy suats or deadlifts, just do your squats in the ultra high reprange : sets of 60 reps. Now legs are a special musle that will often respond well to megareps (just watch the turbowheels of some competetive 5-10 kilometre iceskaters). The funny part about is that your waist will become tight and well conditioned with these amount of reps, but not a thick crude blocky Yates waist. Changes are good that your ass will not balloon and look more like two tight coconuts.

as for the deads, for this reason, do them in the 20 reprange, also they are still superintens, mike mentzer recommended 20 reps squats/deads for its sheer brutallity.
 
Re: Use a high reprange

With regards you your first paragraph- I dont see where balance comes into it. The abs work with the lower back to support ur torso in the lifts (ever heard of maintaining high internal pressure?). As most people have to lean at least a little when they squat and deadlift ur abs and back are going to get worked. It isnt like u are off balance.....more that u have to lean, and therefore keep ur abs an back tight (if you dont want to screw ur back up!) in order to maintain ur balance.

Its inevitable that ur waist wont grow much when u do 60 rep sets (ouch!!)....u cant use that much weight so your torso doesnt require that much support. But I'm not sure that this is the best strategy if you are after pure strength or size.

U know I really dont understand why so many people have a problem with their ass or waistline growing. As far as I can tell more women like a round ass than not- so that cant be an issue (can it). And so long as your chest is 16-20 inches bigger than ur chest ur waist wont look huge.

Just my 2c.
goahead said:
I think its largely genetic: ie: somebody with a favourable posture and or neurocontrol has less trouble keeping balance with free squats, hence his/her waist does not have to struggle as hard to compensate being thrown offbalance, also what kind of fibers makeup your ab muscles etc. Also the length of the joints determines how much stress certain musclegroups receive during the lift.


If you feel your ass or waist becomes too thick from 4-6 reps heavy suats or deadlifts, just do your squats in the ultra high reprange : sets of 60 reps. Now legs are a special musle that will often respond well to megareps (just watch the turbowheels of some competetive 5-10 kilometre iceskaters). The funny part about is that your waist will become tight and well conditioned with these amount of reps, but not a thick crude blocky Yates waist. Changes are good that your ass will not balloon and look more like two tight coconuts.

as for the deads, for this reason, do them in the 20 reprange, also they are still superintens, mike mentzer recommended 20 reps squats/deads for its sheer brutallity.
 
Yep, my waist is probably a good 2-3 inches larger than if I had never done the squat or deadlifty heavy(34 vs 32) but it's a small price to pay for big legs and strength.
 
squats have made my ass, hips and midsection area a little bigger....it could also be deadlifts, to be honest, i dont give a fuck as long as i am getting bigger and stronger...i want all the mass i can get!
 
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