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J.S.M.

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Hey guys, what's up? My last post, which was also my first, was in regards to my first cycle and I got a ton of help from you on that front. Taking the advice I was given, I ran D-Bol and Sust (Sust 'cause I already had it). I'm still running both, but tapered back on the D-Bol since starting. I've got a new problem though...crippling headaches. Not just painful headaches, but very serious headaches that keep me from doing anything. A sneeze brought one on the other day and I couldn't even open my right eye for 20min. It wasn't bothering my training until Friday, when I couldn't finish my last Deadlift set because of one. Then today, I couldn't even get past my 3rd rep on my 3rd set of Squats because of another bad one. I did my own research in an attempt to not have to disturb anyone for help, but all I could read was that taking in Taurine and lots of water would help, along with low-dose aspirin with the D-Bol. Those I've tried, but the headaches are nonetheless becoming more prevalent. Can anyone offer any help? Any info I couldn't find on my own as to how to alleviate this? Anything anyone could offer would be really appreciated. Like I said, with my last post you all were extremely helpful and that's awesome. I figured asking again would be a good idea, since I've got nothing more to go on lol
 
BLOOD PRESSURE... Go check ASAP! You don't want to blow a hose in your head, bro. Dbol and Test can both raise BP. Anything over 150/100 GET ON SOME BP MEDS. Do not hesitate. Strokes are no fun.
Only other thing is are you taking any NO2 products. Sometimes they can dialate vessels and cause headaches. I'm betting you BP is high.
 
halfcenturian said:
BLOOD PRESSURE... Go check ASAP! You don't want to blow a hose in your head, bro. Dbol and Test can both raise BP. Anything over 150/100 GET ON SOME BP MEDS. Do not hesitate. Strokes are no fun.
Only other thing is are you taking any NO2 products. Sometimes they can dialate vessels and cause headaches. I'm betting you BP is high.

+1000

In a former life I was an EMT. It sounds a lot like you are having some serious BP problems.

Get it checked. If you diastolic is >=100 get your ass to the Dr ASAP. Be completely honest with them about what you are taking and how much & for how long.

B-
 
True enough, that is very possible. My family is known for that, and when I was younger I was nearly placed on BP meds. I'll most certainly schedule a doctor's appt., but whether I'm placed on BP meds or not, would that mean that I cannot use AAS? Also, no I'm not currently on any N.O. supplements. Thanks for your help guys, I really appreciate it. This has always been a good place to find help and get information, except when people start bitching at eachother. Then it normally just confuses the reader and wastes people's time lol
 
J.S.M. said:
True enough, that is very possible. My family is known for that, and when I was younger I was nearly placed on BP meds. I'll most certainly schedule a doctor's appt., but whether I'm placed on BP meds or not, would that mean that I cannot use AAS? Also, no I'm not currently on any N.O. supplements. Thanks for your help guys, I really appreciate it. This has always been a good place to find help and get information, except when people start bitching at eachother. Then it normally just confuses the reader and wastes people's time lol

Don't wait for an appointment to check your BP. There are a lot of places (pharmacies, WalMart etc) that have machines you can walk right up to and check it. Go and do it. Then call the Dr with the results.

B-
 
Well, I do have a home BP cuff that I used just now, and it gave me two results, the average of which being 156/80. That's not so good, so I suppose you're right. I know that being honest and open during an appt. is important to the diagnosis/prognosis, but can't I get into trouble legally?
 
J.S.M. said:
Well, I do have a home BP cuff that I used just now, and it gave me two results, the average of which being 156/80. That's not so good, so I suppose you're right. I know that being honest and open during an appt. is important to the diagnosis/prognosis, but can't I get into trouble legally?

No.

You Dr. may not disclose anything to anyone without your consent.

Period.

End.

of.

Story.

B-
 
halfcenturian said:
BLOOD PRESSURE... Go check ASAP! You don't want to blow a hose in your head, bro. Dbol and Test can both raise BP. Anything over 150/100 GET ON SOME BP MEDS. Do not hesitate. Strokes are no fun.
Only other thing is are you taking any NO2 products. Sometimes they can dialate vessels and cause headaches. I'm betting you BP is high.

^^

and over and above that, this isnt a game, and you only get to fuck up badly once. Headaches as painful as you describe require medical evaluation PRONTISSIMO.
 
Hey, thanks a lot for all of the help guys. It's amazing how willing to help most of the members around here are. I've got an appt. to discuss my headaches, but as a recent development I have cut out the D-Bol entirely, which seems to have helped at least somewhat. Now I'm only on Sust., 400mg/wk total. Is that alright? Or have a made a mistake by doing so? Just curious to know, and I thought it would be best to ask given this is my first cycle and I've had a few troubles, such as painful lower-back pumps, those headaches and even though my diet is good, I think I actually look kind of worse. I am a lot stronger though, which is nice, but not the point as far as I'm concerned lol
 
Same thing happened to me but, I wasn't on a cycle. Every time I worked out I would get a terrible headache. I did some research online and the best remedy was rest, so I didn't workout for two weeks and they went away. I was relieved because the headaches were really bad. A week of not exercising/working out might do the trick but I went two weeks just to be sure. My blood pressure has always been normal so I don't think it was that, for what I read online there are all kinds of reasons for these types of headaches.
 
J.S.M. said:
Hey, thanks a lot for all of the help guys. It's amazing how willing to help most of the members around here are. I've got an appt. to discuss my headaches, but as a recent development I have cut out the D-Bol entirely, which seems to have helped at least somewhat. Now I'm only on Sust., 400mg/wk total. Is that alright? Or have a made a mistake by doing so? Just curious to know, and I thought it would be best to ask given this is my first cycle and I've had a few troubles, such as painful lower-back pumps, those headaches and even though my diet is good, I think I actually look kind of worse. I am a lot stronger though, which is nice, but not the point as far as I'm concerned lol


no. it was the dbol. same thing happens to me if i go over 30mg while needto does like 80 w/o sides. the bp my also be from some estrogen so if yiu have an anti-eeeee do it for a few days to get a bit of the bloat off (which takes longer than the d-bol to leave your system).

next cycle, start with a little bit of dbol and work up--or you may not be able to take it at all--we are all different.
 
bblazer said:
No.

You Dr. may not disclose anything to anyone without your consent.

Period.

End.

of.

Story.

B-

This is true but just about every doctor has you sign away that right when you com in for treatment. You really need to read the fine print. It will show up on your medical records and your health insurance will drop you.

So use the BP cuff when you have the head ache. It doesn't helpmuch when you aren't having one. I would even drop the D-Bol. It gives me problems when I take it and I have a bunch in storage but just don't like how I feel on it. I suspect it is hitting my liver fairly hard. Yes I know there are studies that show people taking a ton of the stuff without problems but everybody is different so consider your self warned. I mean is it really worth having your head pop just to take d-bol? If you stop the d-bol and the pain goes away you have your answer.
 
Alright, cool. Hey thanks for helping. I thought my thread might have been too old to be read anymore lol The headaches have subsided a little, so maybe you're right. If anything else comes up...you'll probably be hearing from me lol
 
Are you still using the Sust? I think i would drop it too until you are checked out by the doc. The Sust will also raise BP, though probably not as much as the Dbol. Not trying to scare you or anything, but there is a young guy at my gym who had a stroke. According to him it was brought on by high BP, but he ignored it. Now he wishes he hadn't.
 
eddymerckx said:
no. it was the dbol. same thing happens to me if i go over 30mg while needto does like 80 w/o sides. the bp my also be from some estrogen so if yiu have an anti-eeeee do it for a few days to get a bit of the bloat off (which takes longer than the d-bol to leave your system).

next cycle, start with a little bit of dbol and work up--or you may not be able to take it at all--we are all different.
lmao. I don't know about 80mg bro. I do 60mg all the time. Never gone above that and I don't think I ever will.
 
I'm still on the Sust, yeah, but since having dropped the D-Bol I feel much better. Those lower back pumps and headaches haven't bothered me since :) I agree with big_joe in that I'm not sure I like how D-Bol effects me...I'm not saying I'll never use it again, but...I'll be more cautious. The strength is great, the weight gain is nice, but I feel that the weight was mostly water. All in all, D-Bol seems like a better idea for strength athletes than bbers. What do I know though? This is only my first cycle. But as always, the help I find here is excellent. Really, thanks a lot guys.
 
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