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Headaches on carb cycling diet?

mus1cjunk1e

mus1cjunk1e

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I just started carb cycling at the beginning of last week. So far I'm loving it but I noticed that this week I've been having headaches almost every day. They seem to start about an hour after I get to work (about 9:30 am). Once I eat some advil they go away for the most part and I am able to work out after work and I'm fine later at night, but I don't want to eat advil every friggin day. I'm not doing no carb on my low days just around 140g and about 325g on my high days. Every day I am getting at least 320g protein.

I did a little research online and noticed that people doing Atkins and similar diets get headaches at the beginning but they go away after a week or so. However since I am cycling carbs I never really fully go on a low carb diet. Am I going to get headaches every week? Maybe my carbs are too low on my low carb days?

A little side note, I ate a little extra carbs last weekend so I lowered my carbs a little extra on monday so maybe that made a difference from the week before?

I'm just looking for anyone that has experience with carb cycling to chime in. I can post my diet up if you want to see it.
 
can you post up what your diet is going to look like on this "cycle." i have been researching and curious
 
Carb cycling should not cause headaches, especially not in the morning hours after eating your carbs. If you were to get headaches it would be late in the day when cutting your carbs out or you could wake up with one. The only time I got headaches was when I was doing strictly low carb, cycling eliminated any issue I had had on my last cutter.

But yeah, please post up your average daily diet.

-Legacy
 
Here's my diet. I figured the easiest way to post it would be to take screen shots of the spreadsheet that I made. The first week I used Wed and Sat as my high days. This week I decided to try doing Mon-Fri low and Sat-Sun high because it is easiest for me to stick to a diet during the work week. I don't think the extra time on low carbs caused the problems because I started getting the headaches on monday. Now I did go out last saturday night as well but I only had 2 drinks the whole night and I don't see that causing headaches for an entire week.

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I attached the actual spreadsheet to this post for anyone that may be interested in using it as a basis for their diet or just for information.

Today the headache seems worse than usual. I took 2 extra strength tylenols (couldn't find any advil) and it isn't horrible anymore but its just a dull pain and it hasn't gone away completely. Its always in the back right part of my head, almost my neck, but the pain goes out to the whole right side of my head and down my trap a little.
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
I attached the actual spreadsheet to this post for anyone that may be interested in using it as a basis for their diet or just for information.

Today the headache seems worse than usual. I took 2 extra strength tylenols (couldn't find any advil) and it isn't horrible anymore but its just a dull pain and it hasn't gone away completely. Its always in the back right part of my head, almost my neck, but the pain goes out to the whole right side of my head and down my trap a little.
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your the man!!!! i have been researching to find these figures. I'm new to the counting deal
 
I'm also entertaining the possibility that I am getting the headaches either from being a little sick or from just being on low cals in general (not necessarily because of low carbs). But they are getting kinda annoying. At least they haven't affected my workouts yet.
 
Hey Junkie bro I'm about to start Carb Cycling as well! Shit man if head aches are the wrost your gettin I'd say your ok at least your it's not durring your lifts or effecting them!

I want to check out your diet sched but can't open it from my office. I will check it out hopefully tonight, either that or if I PM you my email maybe you could send it over that way.

Didnt you just come off? I was going to cut now and carb cycle but figured I might wait a bit so I can retain as much as possable after the gear then once that settels cut in Early April for the summer.

Good luck bro!
 
Even if you cant open the spreadsheet you should be able to see the screen grabs a couple posts up. Its the same thing. I don't think you can open attachments if you aren't plat (not sure if thats true or not) so if you want me to email it to you just pm me your email and I'll send it over.

And the diet's been affecting my lifts alright. I've broken a couple personal records in the last 2 weeks since I've been off. Don't know how much of that has to do with the compounds still being in my blood or from the sustain/unleashed/post cycle or from my new lifting routine though but something is working. I definitely haven't gotten smaller thats for sure and I've lost 4 lbs already (I'm assuming mostly water weight). If anything, loosing the 4lbs made me look a little bigger because some muscles became more defined when they lost some bloat.

I think with 320g of protein a day I shouldn't loose any muscle mass even with only 2500 cals on my low days. I'm not looking at this diet as a temporary cutting thing, I'm trying to do it more as a lifestyle change. As far as I know there is nothing unhealthy about using a carb cycling diet all the time. From what I am reading it is a good way to lean out and make gains at the same time.
 
Hmm, I just finished a meal and it seems like the headache went away a little more after that. Maybe it is just too low cals for me. I might need to up my low carb days by a couple hundred cals or so because it almost seems like a "I haven't eaten in a day" headache.
 
Also now that I think about it, this was the first week I started using amp02 every day for my work outs. So that could have something to do with it as well. I hate it when there are 20 different variables and you can't narrow it down to one thing.

I guess my purpose for posting this thread was to see if other people have the same issue with carb cycling so I could eliminate the diet as a possibility.
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
Even if you cant open the spreadsheet you should be able to see the screen grabs a couple posts up. Its the same thing. I don't think you can open attachments if you aren't plat (not sure if thats true or not) so if you want me to email it to you just pm me your email and I'll send it over.

And the diet's been affecting my lifts alright. I've broken a couple personal records in the last 2 weeks since I've been off. Don't know how much of that has to do with the compounds still being in my blood or from the sustain/unleashed/post cycle or from my new lifting routine though but something is working. I definitely haven't gotten smaller thats for sure and I've lost 4 lbs already (I'm assuming mostly water weight). If anything, loosing the 4lbs made me look a little bigger because some muscles became more defined when they lost some bloat.

I think with 320g of protein a day I shouldn't loose any muscle mass even with only 2500 cals on my low days. I'm not looking at this diet as a temporary cutting thing, I'm trying to do it more as a lifestyle change. As far as I know there is nothing unhealthy about using a carb cycling diet all the time. From what I am reading it is a good way to lean out and make gains at the same time.
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Nice Rock it bro!

Yeah I can't see the screen pics or anything it's the lock down with my computers at work everything is blocked, I think they have a deal with EF so I can get to this site only hahaha
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
Also now that I think about it, this was the first week I started using amp02 every day for my work outs. So that could have something to do with it as well. I hate it when there are 20 different variables and you can't narrow it down to one thing.

I guess my purpose for posting this thread was to see if other people have the same issue with carb cycling so I could eliminate the diet as a possibility.
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Your using only the AMP02 or are you doing the ultimate Stack with Lipo as well?

Your using fat burners or just Carb cycling?

I'm only curious cause I rarely do a cutter as I rarely need to (naturally more ripped) but I need to now after cycle and takin in like 5K kcals while on. So the cutters are kind of new to me. :)

I'll PM you my email if you wouldnt mind so I can get a referance from my upcoming diet change.
 
I'm using amp02 before my workouts and I take the lipoflame before I do cardio on my non lifting days. I'm not super steady with it though because I have anxiety disorder and the stims kind of make it worse. I'm almost over it -- I don't take any meds for it and I don't get panic attacks anymore -- but I get anxious on stims. Still I love Omegas supps and most of the time they don't bother me. I want to get a jump rope and start taking lipoflame first thing when I wake up and jumping rope for a half hour every morning.
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
I'm using amp02 before my workouts and I take the lipoflame before I do cardio on my non lifting days. I'm not super steady with it though because I have anxiety disorder and the stims kind of make it worse. I'm almost over it -- I don't take any meds for it and I don't get panic attacks anymore -- but I get anxious on stims. Still I love Omegas supps and most of the time they don't bother me. I want to get a jump rope and start taking lipoflame first thing when I wake up and jumping rope for a half hour every morning.
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Thats a hell of an idea, cardio in the ams is tough for me cause I get up at 530am and go right to work 30 min drive I wish I had more time. I'm about to order the same stack I think April 1st, when i start your diet :chomp:
 
half an hour of jump rope is like running 6 miles lol

LIPOFLAME will def make it easier/ possible

good call on your use Of Amplify02 and LIPOFLAME

when I am a in a clean non agressive cut phase

I use Amplify02 for upper body workouts ( pump, power and focus)
and LIPOFLAME for Legs, abs and cardio days


PS if you using it just like I stated Once a day, little to no chance it from the stack UNLESS its hydration related
 
OMEGA said:
half an hour of jump rope is like running 6 miles lol

LIPOFLAME will def make it easier/ possible

good call on your use Of Amplify02 and LIPOFLAME

when I am a in a clean non agressive cut phase

I use Amplify02 for upper body workouts ( pump, power and focus)
and LIPOFLAME for Legs, abs and cardio days
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Hahaha like runnin 6 miles is right.

I'll prolly be PMing you at the start of next month to get the up and up on what exactly I need and when to use about that. I checked the sticky and read the site but didnt get a clear view. I'll hit you up.

Looking forward to it!

Hahaha it seems about the middle of each stack or cycle I'm always looking forward to starting the next!
 
OMEGA said:
half an hour of jump rope is like running 6 miles lol
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Heh well I've never really jumped rope before so maybe I'll start with 5 minutes every morning and work my way up from there lol
 
silverskyline said:
Hahaha it seems about the middle of each stack or cycle I'm always looking forward to starting the next!
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Ya sometimes it feels like the planning and anticipation is almost better than actually doing it lol. Well, you see how I plan stuff out now that you saw my spreadsheet :p
 
I did and I am the exact same way with every thing, I use excel a ton with all my programs you should have seen my gear cycle with work out routine spread sheet it would take a scientist to look at it and be ok I get it.

hahaha

mus1cjunk1e said:
Ya sometimes it feels like the planning and anticipation is almost better than actually doing it lol. Well, you see how I plan stuff out now that you saw my spreadsheet :p
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Hmmm. So this was really weird. I had a headache walking into the gym. I figured that straining to lift weights would make it worse. Instead my headache completely went away for the entire time I was at the gym and for a couple hours after. Now its back. I'm friggin stumped at this point. I guess my cals are just too low. I figure thats the easiest thing to change. Next week I'm going to up my cals by about 200 a day and see if that helps.
 
I am currently using sustain alpha 5 pumps ed (has been after morning shower now I do it after my post workout shower at night), unleashed at 3 caps every morning (was taking another 3 at night last week), and post cycle 3 caps in the morning and 3 at night. That is for my pct. For this last week I have been using amp02 before my workouts at 5 caps. The week before I took 2 caps of lipoflame every morning because my amp02 hadn't come in yet. Also 5g of rawmcc on my off days.
 
hmm I see no issues then

for now on use Amplify02 Pre Lift, and LIPOFLAME on cardio and legs days

you can up the dose to the max as on the label, just don't use then on the same day

also use EXTRA water

this advice i just gave was to max results, for your enjoyment,
I dont think headaches came form supps based on doses used
 
OMEGA said:
you can up the dose to the max as on the label, just don't use then on the same day

also use EXTRA water

this advice i just gave was to max results, for your enjoyment,
I dont think headaches came form supps based on doses used
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I am really sensitive to stims so I can't really use more than 5 or 6 amp02s. Believe me I am super focused at that dose. Maybe after a little while of running it I will get more used to it and start to take more, but for now the half doses are working pretty well for me.
 
Man, I really thought I figured out this headache thing.

I doubled my oatmeal with applesauce this morning and I haven't had the headache all morning. Then I just ate my 3rd meal a minute ago of steak and greanbeans with a tablespoon of peanut butter, and bam 10 minutes later the headache is back in full force. At least I think I am no the right track raising my carbs.

Do some people just need more carbs than others? I am getting green veggies with every meal, it just seems strange that I would need to have other carbs with every meal just to stave off headaches.
 
High Blood pressure?

Not enough water?

Low Cals?

Allergies?

All can effect headaches, your setup is fine, it really shouldnt have anything to do with the diet for the most part, it all looks good.

-Legacy
 
I don't think it's my blood pressure, I know what those headaches were like from the beginning of my tren cycle when my bp shot up a little before it stabilized. Also I drink a shitload of water. I bring a 500ml bottle of water to work, finish it before I even sit down at my desk, and then fill it up 5-7 times during the day plus the water I drink at night. I probably drink around a gallon on a bad day and 1.5 to 2 on a good day.

I think I've narrowed it down to my cals being too low. I don't really know what my "baseline" cal needs are so I'm kind of playing with it. I think I am underestimating my calorie needs. I'm going to add a couple hundred more cals to my low days from carbs. I have kind of a fast metabolism and I think I was just trying to cut my cals too far. I'm going to start by doubling my oatmeal/applesauce portion for the morning and add maybe a peice of fruit or two throughout the day. That'll add about 300 extra cals.
 
Try it, but try to get some better carbs than Fruit for cutting. Throw in some more veggies, maybe a baked potato or something. I dont think you need the sugars, maybe just some more cals.

-Legacy
 
I love baked potatoes. And they are only around 100 - 150 cals. I already have one post workout. Would it be bad to add one to my meals 2 and 3 along with doubling my oatmeal? I think that would add about 400 extra cals which would bring my low days to about 2800 cals and my high carb days up to about 3600.

Btw I eat them with just some fake soy butter and a little pepper and salt so nothing bad there.
 
Thats what I do. That or you could throw in some wheat toast with a little natural PB in an early meal, thats quick cals. I just dont think alot of fruit is good while trying to cut, it always slows me up.

-Legacy
 
Thanks I'll give that a go. I friggin love backed potatoes so this is like music to my ears lol.

What do you think about the fruit I have in my high days? Should I not worry about it on those days because I'm trying to carb up anyway? From what I understand, you can pretty much eat all the carbs you want on the high days as long as its not candy or donuts or something.
 
Eh, its probably not hurting you around workouts but I would try to keep it around lifting, pre/post, but Id try to stay away from sugars in the rest of your meals. Brown rice is good, potatos, small amounts of natural pb or nuts. Eat some LOW cal veggies like Cucumbers, I eat a bunch while at work as between meal snack, no cals basically but you feel like youre eating. I see no probs with fruit around workouts, some people dont like fruit period. They are good for antioxidants and all that but some people think the fructose is a bad choice. As long as you still get results go ahead. If you start having trouble losing those last few lbs, cut the fruit out.

-Legacy
 
Thanks for the help man. I think after a month or two I should have a good handle on what works for me.
 
Well I finally figured it out and I feel like an idiot for not realizing it right away.

About 6 months ago I pulled/strained/dont know the right word a muscle in the back right of my neck -- right where I keep getting these "headaches". It hurt in a similar way, but it wasn't on and off like this. I think sometime the day or two before I started getting the headaches I must have done something to strain it again. It's just weird that I am able to go in the gym and lift heavy and it actually stops hurting instead of hurting more.

I finally ruled out diet, supps, etc and it has to be that muscle.
 
Also for anyone interested in using my spreadsheet but doesn't want to carb cycle, I decided to just create a sustainable diet and save carb cycling for the last couple stubborn lbs. Then when I do it, I'm going to really cycle carbs down low, below 100g a day on low days.

I just took the low day diet, doubled the oatmeal/applesauce/cinimmon breakfast from 4oz oatmeal and 2oz applesauce to 8oz/4oz, added a baked potato to meal 2 and 3, and added a whole wheat bun to the first turkey burger that I used to eat by itself.

I'm going to follow that mon - fri and mostly follow it on the weekends with a healthy dose of eat whatever the hell I want. That keeps my daily cals around 3000, keeps me full, and with some added AM cardio should still lose me some steady weight while gaining some muscle and strength.
 
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