Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have heard many people say they run HCG while on longer cycles, I only come off of AAS and GH 2 times per year for 8 weeks each, would running HCG during a cycle have any benefits at all for me? If so what dose should I run it at? 500iu ED more or less? Also I have a quick question also, I always have atleast 100,000 ius of HCG on hand just to be sure I never have to come off and have none, my kits are Pregnyl brand and are 5000 ius per amp, now my question is, I have to mix the entire amp at once obviously, so what should I do with the leftovers in there as I only run 500ius ed. Should I just fill up slin pins and keep them in the fridge each pin holding 500ius? Also do you fellas inject your HCG Sub Q or IM? If you do it IM what size pin do you use? Any benefits to IM over Sub Q? Ive always ran it subQ and didnt seem to have any probs......Thanks for the help, its appreciated...
HCG While on Cycle?
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toxicsambo
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jackedfreak said:
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Take it mid cycle, for 7-8 days, 500iu's a day. Whether youre doing more than 1 gram of gear per week, or a 8-12 week cycle, you should always run HCG and Nolva 20 mg/day. The PCT will be much more productive on your testes and you will retain most of your gains.
IM or Sub-Q makes no differnece, I do IM with a 23, 25, or slin. HCG only lasts for 2 weeks in the fridge once it's mixed. If I'm wrong, someone correct me. So the leftover is garbage.
Ive done this the last 2 cycles, and I thought it helped out alot..I could tell when my boys needed it.
Bruce
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anytime you think your testes have shrunk i would take 500ius of hcg till they are back to size. it is so much easier to recover if your testes are at full size. also get a vial of bac water and put 10,000 ius in 10ml so you have 10 shots 1000ius each. store in the fridge and they are good for about 2 weeks, some say a month
Ramcononer
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what is the Bac Water for??
Big_Joe
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JLA said:
There is a lot of talk about hcg damaging leydig cells. Here is a link to a study that had guys on test E 200mg per week for nine months. This dropped their sperm production way down. They then gave them 5000 iu hcg three times per week!! That's 15,000 iu per week for six months. These guys did not have any leydig cell damage.
Long term high doasage hcg
After much study in this area I suspect that leydig cell desensitization is a theory that has been repeated over and over again so people begin to think it is fact but I have found no evidence for it in the literature.
JLA
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Big_Joe said:
Yeah, I just have some anecdotal information, no studies. But I will say that 500 a week keep my balls full size throughout the cycle and I have never had a problem with recovery. (again, one person's experience).
If someone were seriously shut down, it may be one of the only remaining choices (to take large amounts of HCG).
Well dont forget that I have been on aas for a long time, the last time I beleive I came off was septmeber of 05, which now is 7 months, so will 500ius say 3 times per week be good? Also will I notice any gains with adding this in? Any water weight? My current cycle is this
Parabolan 300-400mg per wk
Masteron 400mg per wk
Winstrol tabs 50-70mg per day (Oral)
HGH 4iu ed
IGF 50mcg per day
Var 20mg ed
Arim 1mg eod
I have a show in 4.5 weeks so I just took out the prop this week...So with knowing this what would the best dose be to run the hcg?
Parabolan 300-400mg per wk
Masteron 400mg per wk
Winstrol tabs 50-70mg per day (Oral)
HGH 4iu ed
IGF 50mcg per day
Var 20mg ed
Arim 1mg eod
I have a show in 4.5 weeks so I just took out the prop this week...So with knowing this what would the best dose be to run the hcg?
Nighthawkk
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I've been on for long periods before (including right now), and HCG is always very helpful in recovery. I have used both 1500iu E4D dosing, as well as 500iu ED, and both methods work well. I think as long as you use a good amount of nolvadex, the higher doses shouldn't desensitize natural LH production, or so I've heard. Same thing goes for gyno prevention with HCG, you should use an AI and/or nolvadex. But it does really help a lot with teste size and recovery.
