HCG: What I have, what else I need

[TylerT]

I've got 2 tiny vials of 1ml solvens, and 2 tiny vials the same size of the powder mix. I'm under the impression that I need to order some water or something from AG Guys, is that correct? And also, I've got some 30 1/2" needles I was going to use but now I am being told I need a different kind of syringe as well, the kind used for insulin. I cannot find these at any of the websites we all like to use for our pin/syringe supplies. Can anybody help me out so that I may have my balls back Thanks alot.

 

[acneman]

I've got 2 tiny vials of 1ml solvens, and 2 tiny vials the same size of the powder mix. I'm under the impression that I need to order some water or something from AG Guys, is that correct? And also, I've got some 30 1/2" needles I was going to use but now I am being told I need a different kind of syringe as well, the kind used for insulin. I cannot find these at any of the websites we all like to use for our pin/syringe supplies. Can anybody help me out so that I may have my balls back Thanks alot.

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the 1ml vials are bac water and you use to mix
i think the 30 gage pins you got would work
i dont think you need to order anything else

i wish i could have my balls back
my wife is at her mothers and shes got em in her purse

 

[CO B-man]

I've got 2 tiny vials of 1ml solvens, and 2 tiny vials the same size of the powder mix. I'm under the impression that I need to order some water or something from AG Guys, is that correct? And also, I've got some 30 1/2" needles I was going to use but now I am being told I need a different kind of syringe as well, the kind used for insulin. I cannot find these at any of the websites we all like to use for our pin/syringe supplies. Can anybody help me out so that I may have my balls back Thanks alot.

How many IU's do you have? If by tiny you mean 10 ml vials you may have enough but if not then you might not. Also you dont HAVE to use a slin pin your pin will work. Slin pins dont hardly feel at all and they work great. You can use an 18 Ga torpedo if you feel like it. I prefer slin pins though. Get pinz has them unless they are out right now.

 

[TylerT]

Thanks for the quick replies. The liquid vial is actually only 1ml, it says. And the powder vials say 5000iu. And 'iu' must be very small because the vials are the same size.

 

[Tux]

So you have 2 5,000iu amps of HCG and two 1ml amps of dilutent? That's all you should need bro. Just make sure you have enough slin pins to inject it with. I like doing my HCG in smaller amounts, like 500iu/day for 10 days or 1000iu/day for 5 days, you have 10kiu, should be more than enough. I use 31g, 3/8in slin pin to inject it also, totally painless and works just fine!

 

[CO B-man]

So you have 2 5,000iu amps of HCG and two 1ml amps of dilutent? That's all you should need bro. Just make sure you have enough slin pins to inject it with. I like doing my HCG in smaller amounts, like 500iu/day for 10 days or 1000iu/day for 5 days, you have 10kiu, should be more than enough. I use 31g, 3/8in slin pin to inject it also, totally painless and works just fine!

yup, what he said

 

[TylerT]

Thanks again. Sorry if my questions seem downright ignorant, never used HCG before. How do I go about mixing the powder and liquid? Break open the glass amps, pour the liquid into the powder, and then preload all the syringes, and refrigerate? That sound okay or am I missing a couple of steps?

 

[acneman]

Thanks again. Sorry if my questions seem downright ignorant, never used HCG before. How do I go about mixing the powder and liquid? Break open the glass amps, pour the liquid into the powder, and then preload all the syringes, and refrigerate? That sound okay or am I missing a couple of steps?

no question is ignorant as long as you listen to the answers.
score the vial neck and carefully snap it off
draw the content with you 30 gauge pin and inject into the hcg vial
mix
draw what you need and inject
i have also used the draw it all in ready syringes and refrigerate the syringes method

 

[Tux]

I mix it, then draw each dose into a separate syringe and refridgerate all of them. Done this half a dozen times, never a problem. And acneman is right, just score the vials, pop them off at the neck( i use a pen cap), draw the water, mix your water into your powder, then preload the syringes and you're good to go.

 

[KSman]

The mixing should be gentle, not shaken. In ampules, I guess that you can only swirl to mix.

 

[Tux]

Yes, mix gently, only swirl. Never shake peptides like GH, HCG, or IGF to mix them, it will degrade them. Just gently swirl till the powder dissolves and go from there.

 

[motoxer125]

do you need to pre-load the syringes? and keep them refrigerated? or can you just load the syringes when you need to inject?

 

[sabbracadabra74]

Where is the best place to inject HCG? I heard right below the belly button, but I just would like to know if there are any better places. Also, do you have to stick the needle all the way in or just right under the skin (like a TB test)?

 

[Tux]

If it's a slin pin, it's max of .5in long, just pinch and inject all the way, make sure it's sub-q, not a skin-pop. There shoudn't be a bubble on your skin after the inject. You need to preload the syringes and refridgerate them after reconstitution. If you just leave and open amp in the fridge it's much more likely to get contaminated. If you happened to have an actual sealed vial of HCG( I have one of these right now), then you could just reconstitute, refridgerate, and draw and shoot when needed. HCG rarely comes like that though, so pre-loading is a little more sterile, as the syringes aren't open to the air like an open amp is. You can inject the HCG any where in the abs... just not in the same spot every day, move it around.

 

[redsamurai]

500 iu's a day!!??? god damn!! I've got slin pins for my IGF...they're 30 iu pins, I've got to be missing something...like a way to dose it....cause 500iu's is alot of liquid to inject in one day....

 

[jerichohill]

500 iu's a day!!??? god damn!! I've got slin pins for my IGF...they're 30 iu pins, I've got to be missing something...like a way to dose it....cause 500iu's is alot of liquid to inject in one day....

Maybe your needles are 30 Gauge, not 30 iu! Most slin or insluin syringes are 1cc. If you do 500iu a day thats 1/10th of a 5000iu/ml dose. or 0.1 cc on the 1cc insulin syringe.

 

[Snarling Force]

WTF Bros I can't believe nobody has mentioned DO NOT use the 1ml dilutent that came with your HCG!!! You use this only if you plan on using it within a couple of days. You throw that shit out and buy BAC water from AGGuys. HCG mixed with BAC lasts 30 days as opposed to when you mix HCG with the included dilutent which only lasts 2 days top. Someone back me up on this...

 

[sabbracadabra74]

If it's a slin pin, it's max of .5in long, just pinch and inject all the way, make sure it's sub-q, not a skin-pop. There shoudn't be a bubble on your skin after the inject. You need to preload the syringes and refridgerate them after reconstitution. If you just leave and open amp in the fridge it's much more likely to get contaminated. If you happened to have an actual sealed vial of HCG( I have one of these right now), then you could just reconstitute, refridgerate, and draw and shoot when needed. HCG rarely comes like that though, so pre-loading is a little more sterile, as the syringes aren't open to the air like an open amp is. You can inject the HCG any where in the abs... just not in the same spot every day, move it around.

I know by "sub-q" you mean subcutaneous, but what is a "skin-pop?" Excuse my ignorance. Also, the injection doesn't have to be intramuscular, does it? I heard it could be, but it doesn't have to be. Thanks!

 

[Snarling Force]

It certainly does not have to be sub-q. I've always shot HCG IM as I would any type of gear.

 

[rakasha681]

WTF Bros I can't believe nobody has mentioned DO NOT use the 1ml dilutent that came with your HCG!!! You use this only if you plan on using it within a couple of days. You throw that shit out and buy BAC water from AGGuys. HCG mixed with BAC lasts 30 days as opposed to when you mix HCG with the included dilutent which only lasts 2 days top. Someone back me up on this...

Thats is exactly what i was thinking while reading this thread SF. But ive heard it will last up to 10 days with the dilutant, or between 45-60 if you use bact water. I usually mix mine up 5000iu at a time, with 5ml of bact water, so i just have to inject .5cc to get my 500iu, which lasts me about 40 days, going e4d throught my cycle... works for me.

 

[rakasha681]

I know by "sub-q" you mean subcutaneous, but what is a "skin-pop?" Excuse my ignorance. Also, the injection doesn't have to be intramuscular, does it? I heard it could be, but it doesn't have to be. Thanks!

under the skin, but on top of the fat, so its right at the surface.. you will litterally see a bubble right runder your skin.

Absorbtion and halflife are pretty much the same going IM or sub-q.. i know most people stick with subq, cuz why worry about nerves and veins and all that if you can just do a quick poke in the abs?

 

[sabbracadabra74]

under the skin, but on top of the fat, so its right at the surface.. you will litterally see a bubble right runder your skin.

Absorbtion and halflife are pretty much the same going IM or sub-q.. i know most people stick with subq, cuz why worry about nerves and veins and all that if you can just do a quick poke in the abs?

When I originally replied to the post by "Tux" in this thread, he said there should not be a bubble under the skin after the injection. This would be my first time using HCG so I don't want to do it wrong. Can anyone explain to me the definitive way to inject HCG? Thanks!

 

[sabbracadabra74]

When I originally replied to the post by "Tux" in this thread, he said there should not be a bubble under the skin after the injection. This would be my first time using HCG so I don't want to do it wrong. Can anyone explain to me the definitive way to inject HCG? Thanks!

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[acneman]

When I originally replied to the post by "Tux" in this thread, he said there should not be a bubble under the skin after the injection. This would be my first time using HCG so I don't want to do it wrong. Can anyone explain to me the definitive way to inject HCG? Thanks!

it depends on how much you inject and how much fat is there as to wether you get a lump
ive never seen rakasha681 give bad advice
take it

inject it just like insulin heres a link with a pic and instructions
http://www.bddiabetes.com/us/main.aspx?cat=1&id=257

 

[h_rock]

It certainly does not have to be sub-q. I've always shot HCG IM as I would any type of gear.

Other than his avatar, I like and agree to whatever he posted on this thread.

 

[rakasha681]

it depends on how much you inject and how much fat is there as to wether you get a lump
ive never seen rakasha681 give bad advice
take it

inject it just like insulin heres a link with a pic and instructions
http://www.bddiabetes.com/us/main.aspx?cat=1&id=257

Let me clarify a little bit. He asked what a "skin pop" was, which is what you DONT want to do. But i guess if you have a very low BF, you may have a lump under the skin, but for the most part, you shouldnt see anything after you inject. With a reasonably low BF, 10-15%, you may be able to feel the "bubble" under/in the fat, but thats usually only if your injecting larger amounts, like 1cc+... mine are usually .5cc, so i dont see or feel a thing.

Def check out acneman's link, it explains it pretty well... you basically want to inject right into the fat itself. Unless your BF is down at like 5% or something, and you really dont have any fat on your abs, you can also do an IM injection, but i wouldnt suggest doing that on your abs