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Ok how much hcg do you need to take for it to be effective. Basically I think it comes in 5000 and 2000 iu amps for a reason and its not to be split up into these mini dosages. I have seen studies where they use hcg and they use a much larger dose than 500ius every week. Anyone care to explain or voice a opinion?
 
hcg wasnt designed for steroid users
if the minimum amount works why take more?
500iu ed for 5-10 days is enough for me before i hit pct..never needed any more
(yes i know that sounds funny coming from me incase anyone cares to comment lol)
 
True it wasn't for steroid users but it is prescribed to do just what we use it for and that to jump our testosterone back up. My thing is why are we using so small amounts but the people who are prescribed it are using such larger?
 
pip88 said:
True it wasn't for steroid users but it is prescribed to do just what we use it for and that to jump our testosterone back up.
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No it wasn't. it was designed to increase fertility in women.

hayez is correct. (See? I'll say so when it's true! :mix:)
 
pip88 said:
Ok how much hcg do you need to take for it to be effective. Basically I think it comes in 5000 and 2000 iu amps for a reason and its not to be split up into these mini dosages. I have seen studies where they use hcg and they use a much larger dose than 500ius every week. Anyone care to explain or voice a opinion?
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I like 500iu ever 4-5 days during your AAS cycle.
 
abomb555 said:
this i have yet to hear of...unless you are talking about the fact that people are using it to lose weight fast...like a pound per day avarage!
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No its not used as a weight lose. Never-the-less Im assuming no one knows why it comes in a 5000iu amp and not a tiny 500iu. I mean its a given that this is a dosage for a one time use.
 
pip88 said:
No its not used as a weight lose. Never-the-less Im assuming no one knows why it comes in a 5000iu amp and not a tiny 500iu. I mean its a given that this is a dosage for a one time use.
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Dude, it may be prescribed by anti aging clinics but that don;t mean shit. It was intended for what I said. THAT is why it comes in 5000i.u's . That's the effective dosage to spur fertility IN WOMEN.
 
Who gives a shit what the prescribed dose is. I've used it like everybody else on this thread and we agree on the doseage.
 
lartinos said:
Who gives a shit what the prescribed dose is. I've used it like everybody else on this thread and we agree on the doseage.
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He brought up the reason for the dosage it comes in. And I don't think everyone agrees on what dose is best.
 
the point is.... is that we are all different and our bodies recat to different drugs in different ways at different doseages.
Bio-chemical individuality I believe it is called.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Dude, it may be prescribed by anti aging clinics but that don;t mean shit. It was intended for what I said. THAT is why it comes in 5000i.u's . That's the effective dosage to spur fertility IN WOMEN.
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I know what it was made for. Thats not what im asking at all. Im asking why are we talking it in such low doses but when its prescribed to men at anti aging places they take the whole amp. Plus that fact that its made in a 5000iu amp thats not supposed to be broken down into 10 different slin pins.
 
pip88 said:
I know what it was made for. Thats not what im asking at all. Im asking why are we talking it in such low doses but when its prescribed to men at anti aging places they take the whole amp. Plus that fact that its made in a 5000iu amp thats not supposed to be broken down into 10 different slin pins.
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Bro, let go of the anti aging clinic thing. They'll prescribe as much as they can sell. They have zero credibility. They aren;t a legitimate medical establishment, they get under the wire by finding doctors who will prescribing gear. That can be anyone -- dentist, pediatrists, optomatrists, -- as long as they have a medical degree from anywhere and no conscience.
 
lol at anti-aging clinics. I know a dood who runs one... Anyone can open one up bro. The government is hot on their ass though.
 
The people that say that the micro dose works for them are talking out their butts. They have no way of knowing what is working or not. No blood work backs up their statements. But there are a number of articles on pubmed that use 5000 iu dosages for men. And that is for men that have been shut down from testosterone use.

The reason the micro dosing has come about is the herd instinct. One guy that calls himself a doctor and made up the bull shit dosage to get people to go to his clinic. There are no articles in any published peer reviewed journals that support the brain dead micro dosages. But the misinformation has been repeated over and over again that the brain deads follow along.

And hCG has been used for mens fertility issues for a long time. Don't believe the self appointed gurus on this forum. There ideas are just that, ideas. Not supported by fact in any way. If they take issue with that let them produce peer reviewed articles that support the micro dosage of hCG. I know I'm safe on this because I have read them all.

When the idea first came out I tried it. I have even posted about using the micro dosage but it didn't do anything. I then started doing research on pubmed and found no articles supported the micro dosages. Now I use 5000 iu when I use it. That is the only dosage that has a noticeable effect. I'm sure that the people that say the micro dosage works for them would have the same results if the shot up plan water.
 
pip88 said:
No its not used as a weight lose. Never-the-less Im assuming no one knows why it comes in a 5000iu amp and not a tiny 500iu. I mean its a given that this is a dosage for a one time use.
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your a bit confused..it is use for fat loss,it is used for steroid users.. it was designed for woman tho...there is just other uses for it..you can also get it in 10000 iu kits..just becuase you have a amp of somting with a certian dose doesnt mean you need it all right then...... the whole anti aging thing is new..they also get blasted for prescriving adex to men since its ment for breat cancer treatment...
 
Big_Joe said:
The people that say that the micro dose works for them are talking out their butts. They have no way of knowing what is working or not. No blood work backs up their statements. But there are a number of articles on pubmed that use 5000 iu dosages for men. And that is for men that have been shut down from testosterone use.

The reason the micro dosing has come about is the herd instinct. One guy that calls himself a doctor and made up the bull shit dosage to get people to go to his clinic. There are no articles in any published peer reviewed journals that support the brain dead micro dosages. But the misinformation has been repeated over and over again that the brain deads follow along.

And hCG has been used for mens fertility issues for a long time. Don't believe the self appointed gurus on this forum. There ideas are just that, ideas. Not supported by fact in any way. If they take issue with that let them produce peer reviewed articles that support the micro dosage of hCG. I know I'm safe on this because I have read them all.

When the idea first came out I tried it. I have even posted about using the micro dosage but it didn't do anything. I then started doing research on pubmed and found no articles supported the micro dosages. Now I use 5000 iu when I use it. That is the only dosage that has a noticeable effect. I'm sure that the people that say the micro dosage works for them would have the same results if the shot up plan water.
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lol, you're a trip buddy. Your post was entertaining for sure.
So your logic is is that because their is no study to back up the claims that it must be bullshit. You win!
 
pip88 said:
No its not used as a weight lose. Never-the-less Im assuming no one knows why it comes in a 5000iu amp and not a tiny 500iu. I mean its a given that this is a dosage for a one time use.
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how is that a given lol? A vial of test has 5g of it that doesnt mean you take it all at once

IMO people that recommend over 1000iu of HCG at a single shot are the same people recommending clomid @ 300mg a day. Sure it will get the job done but its way too much compared to people that use way less and have the same results.
 
how do you guys judge your "dosages"

iv seen people say "so and such dosage works for me!"

do you guage it by how you feel? how big your nuts get?
 
pip88 said:
No its not used as a weight lose. Never-the-less Im assuming no one knows why it comes in a 5000iu amp and not a tiny 500iu. I mean its a given that this is a dosage for a one time use.
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ummm..yes, yes it is.


Do a google search on HCG for weight loss.
 
HAYEZ said:
your a bit confused..it is use for fat loss,it is used for steroid users.. it was designed for woman tho...there is just other uses for it..you can also get it in 10000 iu kits..just becuase you have a amp of somting with a certian dose doesnt mean you need it all right then...... the whole anti aging thing is new..they also get blasted for prescriving adex to men since its ment for breat cancer treatment...
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When I said that I meant the people that were getting the hcg specifically were not using it for weight loss.
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
how is that a given lol? A vial of test has 5g of it that doesnt mean you take it all at once

IMO people that recommend over 1000iu of HCG at a single shot are the same people recommending clomid @ 300mg a day. Sure it will get the job done but its way too much compared to people that use way less and have the same results.
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Well no shit. Im saying you see a amp and most of the times a amp is used all at once. Like a 250mg amp of test you use all at once thats why its in a amp a non resealable container.
 
pip88 said:
Well no shit. Im saying you see a amp and most of the times a amp is used all at once. Like a 250mg amp of test you use all at once thats why its in a amp a non resealable container.
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I see what you are saying. I guess after all I have read from peoples results and tests you dont need more than 1000iu at any given time. i remember Eric from PP saying it desensetizes your nuts to the endogenous LH you produce naturally and so you run low doses for no more than 3 months. Something like that, but it seems that 250iu 2x a week throughout cycle or 500iu ED for 2 weeks for PCT is common because it works. Why take more if you dont need to?

I cant tell you why it comes in 5000iu amps. It also comes in 2000iu amps
 
pip88 said:
No its not used as a weight lose. Never-the-less Im assuming no one knows why it comes in a 5000iu amp and not a tiny 500iu. I mean its a given that this is a dosage for a one time use.
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Because it is prescribed for one reason - to increase fertility in women. For that purpose, it is one time dose (per menstrual cycle) that varies between 1500 to 5000 units.
 
Yea,

I can't remember the guys name, but one of the big diet literature authors advocates it. I just like the idea of having impressively large balls, personally.
 
the.gladiator1987 said:
I see what you are saying. I guess after all I have read from peoples results and tests you dont need more than 1000iu at any given time. i remember Eric from PP saying it desensetizes your nuts to the endogenous LH you produce naturally and so you run low doses for no more than 3 months. Something like that, but it seems that 250iu 2x a week throughout cycle or 500iu ED for 2 weeks for PCT is common because it works. Why take more if you dont need to?

I cant tell you why it comes in 5000iu amps. It also comes in 2000iu amps
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This concept that you can desensitize the leydig cells is also bull shit. You can force the leydig cells to use up all the available cholesterol, then they produce less testosterone. But once the level of cholesterol comes back up testosterone is produced again. There are some realy pig headed fool on this forum. If the micro dosage "works" for you you might as well be using water. I did notice that none of the gurus have produced any peer reviewed articles to back up their claims. You guys mislead and damage people that need to recover using hCG. Your advice is counter productive for people that need to get their testosterone production back to normal. In other words people that follow your advice are hurting themselves. But maybe that's what you want. There are evil people out there that will give bad advices. Anybody can go on pubmed and do a search on human chorionic gonadotropin. Here is a link for you:
PubMed Home


So why don't the idiots that are giving information that will damage people give something to backup what they are saying.

The reason I stay on this forum is to try and stop the idiots from damaging people. What you people that say to use micro dosage of hCG is the same as telling a fifteen year old to start using testosterone. You're advocating that people damage themselves.
 
lmao @ this thread
 
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