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HCG doe's it call gyno?

Use of HCG post cycle or when tapering AAS is rather counterproductive, since the resulting increased testosterone production is itself inhibitory to the hypothalamus and pituitary, delaying recovery. Thus, if this drug is used, it is preferably used during the cycle itself.

Doses over 1000 IU are noted for their tendency to cause or aggravate gynecomastia, and also act to desensitize the testicles to LH.
 
Re: yes

brama said:
you need to be on Arimidex or novla while using
HCG, or it could spell disaster That is FACT

What "fact" are you talking about?

I have used 5000 ui (at once) post cycle, then 4 days later 2000 more, waited 4 days and used 2000 more. I didn't take arimidex and I didn't take Nolva.

And no,I didn't got Gyno either. And that is a fact.

Sometimes I really wonder from where do you take your "facts" and "knowledge :confused:

If you don't know shit then don't give advice
 
Re: Re: yes

Widi said:


What "fact" are you talking about?

I have used 5000 ui (at once) post cycle, then 4 days later 2000 more, waited 4 days and used 2000 more. I didn't take arimidex and I didn't take Nolva.

And no,I didn't got Gyno either. And that is a fact.

Sometimes I really wonder from where do you take your "facts" and "knowledge :confused:

If you don't know shit then don't give advice

it increases the production of test, which in turn "could"
result in conversion of some to "estro" and if this is let to be, you tell me whats the result?it carries the same possibility of jabbing test and not using an anti-e.
as far as your situation and dosage, you are probably
one of the crew that are blessed with good genetics and react very well to AS. Iwill try to locate the read and post it here as long as its not copyright.
 
Use HCG jsut during your cycle to keep your Leyding cells active and not cause their shrink:this will help your recovery forumla after cycle(w clomid arimidex and so..).
 
That's what I'm saying Widi, from everything I've read and researched I've never heard of HCG giving you gyno until I got to this board. The only time it's been suggested was if you use HCG for longer than 1-2 weeks after a cycle, and you deserve it if you do use it longer than that.
 
Ok, I just did some more reading on it real quick and both view points seem to be right. People use it during and they use it after. Some people can get elevated estrogen levels when using after a cycle and some don't depending on dosage level and the time period of administration. Now the real reason I want to use HCG post-cycle is cause I want my nuts to be big again! I will use Clomid too, it's just that with Clomid along it takes a month for your nuts to come back!:mad:
 
The HCG, contains FSH and LH in its content, this drug active the testosterone production at testicular level , but it doesn't act on the axis hypotalamic- hypofisiari. Reason why it remains inhibited, and more inhibited with the use of exogenous LH. Its my preference to use the Clomid, he acts at central level, and inhibits the aromatisation to, Its very justified their use in the light cases of ginecomastya, and testicular atrophy.
Excuse my English
Greetings from Venezuela
 
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