HCG blast before SERM? - Used throughout cycle

[mfinmonster]

I'm helping a buddy of mine (yes, actually SWIM) come off a cycle, and would like to know how he should approach his PCT properly as this is my first time really ever dealing with PCT. (I'm a TRT guy; long story)

Anyway, he ran a 16 week cycle of Test E @ 300 mg a week, also threw in Super DMZ 2.0 weeks 8-12. He used HCG throughout the cycle so his testis are still full size. For PCT, his SERM of choice is Toremifene (), as he's fearful of the sides from Clomiphene. Dosage will be 120/90/60/30 beginning 14 days after the last T shot.

Now, I researched many combinations of words with quotation marks and whatnot before creating this post.

My question(s) is, since he used HCG throughout the cycle, should he just run the SERM two weeks out?
Or should the week after the last pin consist of a more aggressive HCG blast protocol before the SERM is introduced?
Should he stop the HCG at the same time as the Testosterone?

This may be a stupid question, but I would like to know if there is a difference. I understand many guys just do an HCG blast before the SERM cause they need to get their testis back up to size, but is there also a sort of "priming" mechanism to it?

Also if any of you believe things should be added or changed about the PCT I'm all ears. Things like Nolvadex or Triptorelin possibly?

Thanks

 

[mfinmonster]

Wow sorry guys this should have been posted in the PCT forum. Does anyone know how to change it over? I'm new to this.

 

[_UNIVERSAL_]

Continue running the HCG until the start of PCT, even one week into PCT.

I believe it is best to run a small dosage of HCG during cycle, and then up the dosage a little bit before the start of PCT.

HCG is used to keep the balls active during cycle. You can consider that priming if you will. Most times when PCT fails, it is because the Testes were never brought fully out of atrophy, so they do not respond to the LH that is release from the pituitary.

I would run the PCT like this,

17-19 HCG 1000iu weekly (500iu dosed 2x weekly)
19-22 Torem - not familiar with the best dosing protocol for this.

The only thing I would add to this would be Aromasin or Adex.

If he is looking to keep a little more gains, then IGF-1 could be beneficial.

 

[mfinmonster]

Continue running the HCG until the start of PCT, even one week into PCT.

I believe it is best to run a small dosage of HCG during cycle, and then up the dosage a little bit before the start of PCT.

HCG is used to keep the balls active during cycle. You can consider that priming if you will. Most times when PCT fails, it is because the Testes were never brought fully out of atrophy, so they do not respond to the LH that is release from the pituitary.

I would run the PCT like this,

17-19 HCG 1000iu weekly (500iu dosed 2x weekly)
19-22 Torem - not familiar with the best dosing protocol for this.

The only thing I would add to this would be Aromasin or Adex.

If he is looking to keep a little more gains, then IGF-1 could be beneficial.

Thank you for the feedback. I will do as you said, and will add Adex to it. I was considering having him run igf-1 lr3 in the months following the cycle to maintain the mass.

Any suggestions for the Adex dosage and frequency?

 

[footdoc]

The half life of HCG is very short....about 24 hrs. So I usually recommend a Very small amount taken daily during cycle and for 3 weeks or more after cycle. It can be diluted with sterile water or saline so you can dose a smaller amount per time

 

[_UNIVERSAL_]

I would run the adex @ .5mg 2 times per week.

For the IGF-1, have when run it for 6 weeks start the day of PCT.