Have you used Nandrolone?

[Arioch]

I've hit a deca-only cycle and can attest to it absolutely killing my sex drive

Heh.

Never been a problem.

 

[Realgains]

I've hit a deca-only cycle and can attest to it absolutely killing my sex drive -- however, not to the point where I couldn't get it up...

By itself, it made me extremely moody (not raging, but kinda depressed)... very weird. (I've used it in conjunction with other AS on two other separate occasions and not had this problem)... Not sure if this is common or whether it would translate over to the female side...

My wife is also considering the phenylprop; hopefully it will help with some tendonitis/joint injuries that she has... it has for me...

20 -25 mgs e3d sounds high? Wouldn't 15 mgs e3d be more of a reasonable starting dose (based on the 50 mgs test cyp e10d recommendation by WarLobo)?

I don't think 20 every three days would be too high....you can get away with using more nandrolone than test thats for sure.
RG

 

[THeMaCHinE]

machine, were you using anti-e's during your deca only cycle? How many mg's of deca?

During the deca-only cycle, no. As a progestin, it only moderately aromatizes to estrogen. Moderate usage is thought (by Bill Roberts) to actually lessen estrogen in the (male's) system because natural testosterone is inhibited. An anti-e wouldn't be effective against progesterone-induced gyno either (as far as I can tell). So, I ran it solo...

I did follow the cycle with clomid though.

I was taking it at 375-400mgs/wk.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Heh.

Never been a problem.

lol. rub it in... at least it never took me out of the game completely...

You are talking about deca-only, right? Do you run it at a low dosage?

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I don't think 20 every three days would be too high....you can get away with using more nandrolone than test thats for sure.
RG

Maybe in women?

 

[Arioch]

I experience no progesterone induced side effects at all. Perhaps my hypothalamus has suffered from to many blows to the head.

Have run deca at 800mg/week + Fina @100mg/day with no problem.

Aside from the mild agression I always get from tren.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I experience no progesterone induced side effects at all. Perhaps my hypothalamus has suffered from to many blows to the head.

Have run deca at 800mg/week + Fina @100mg/day with no problem.

Aside from the mild agression I always get from tren.

I've never taken it above 425; the high end of guys I have talked to tops out at 600 before hitting diminishing returns... more power to you... Do you see a big difference between 400-600 vs. 800?

I haven't had any problem with p-gyno -- I think that's a pretty individual thing... Other than the moodiness, the sex drive was really the only negative side effect that comes to mind. Of course, I was going through a bunch of s*it at this point in my life and I suppose both of those things (mood/drive) could be attributed to that...

I really like deca though...

 

[Arioch]

Yes, I saw a difference, but I was using it mainly for some severe joint injuries. And I noticed a difference there as well.

One side effect I did not mention is that at more than 500 mg/week my hands start to swell a bit. At 800 it was rather noticeable. Could not take off my wedding ring.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Arioch -- interesting -- it helped me quite a bit with joint probs too...

RG -- sorry for jacking the thread...