Was in my contest prep when I did shows. Took no more than 45 days and like posted cycled up. The stenox is the easiest to find depending on your location. The halo at 5 mg is great if you find it. Will make ya an ass, will give ya great strength while on a low carb long show diet, will give ya increased agreesion and if taken more than 45 days can fuck ya up as it's very toxic on the liver. none the less always part of contest prep